Manny vs Ugas

[Spicoli]

Surprise to myself I have no problem with this one . Manny has been rolling the lottery ball holding the microphone out for two years now, names flying around but hey with standing cemented and career status exercised in biggest way possible. Spence has put a decent opponent run into motion to be top 147 and I have zero doubt Manny is taking it seriously and as the last stand. Somehow I think he has more opportunities with Spence than trying to in and out speed with Crawford. Strictly style wise. If he hasn't grey geezered overnight he can surprise a stand tall Spence at least early on. I've put way too much thought into it. Spence retires him on his shield.

[SlimTrae]

These types of fights would have been often had Pac left Arum a lot sooner. Arum was sure to have Pac fight Floyd's fighters afterward think DLH, Hatton, Mosley)

quote:
As his former promoter, Arum has a hard time giving him the edge this time around.
https://www.boxinginsider.com/headli...ford-we-tried/


Arum wanted Pac to take on his Crawford. with a lot of money. however Pac for some reason did the SAME TO ARUM FLOYD DID ONCE FREE OF HIM.

Arum was all over about Floyd vs Margarito.
Arum was all over about Terrence vs Pacman.

In the end, there was never a shot of Floyd fighting Rito -regardless of the so called 7 million offer.
In the end there was never real mention of Pac wanting to take Terrence fight where Arum again stated Abu Dhabi because the money is huge

Could Pac be so unhappy with the money Arum made off him that he is quietly dissing Arum? Whereas Floyd publicly trashed Arum?

This article really makes me think so!
Bob Arum Targeting Manny Pacquiao or Errol Spence For Terence Crawford in 2021

https://www.thesportsgeek.com/news/b...wford-in-2021/


So, Arum wanted Terrence to fight either Pac or Spence and in the end both spence & pac are fighting!!! Damn I love it!! I so hope Arum is rode out of boxing JUST like King...with a wimper no one notices.


Pac is fighting Spence, because he probably needs the money. I am not going to keep forgetting he (just like Floyd) have now retired and unretired twice.
There is actually a bad side of a story to me.

Pac is fighting a young killer for millions, while Floyd smiles and asks- why should I fight a prime fighter for millions when I can fight a youtuber for a hundred million?


Nevertheless Pac legacy is secured. With that said, Spence forces Roach to retire Pac on the stool 9th or 10th round and we witness the inevitable: a great who cant walk away...
again...

[Master]

I am sure Roach is not in Manny's corner now.

[SlimTrae]

I am sure Roach is not in Manny's corner now.

God forbid it is buboy.

[Master]

Floyd Mayweather reacts to Manny Pacquiao vs Errol Spence Jr: ‘He is very dangerous still’

Floyd Mayweather has warned Errol Spence Jr not to take Manny Pacquiao lightly ahead of their clash of the ages on August 21.

Unbeaten American Spence Jr (27-0, 21 KO's) defends his WBC and IBF titles against eight-division world champion Pacquiao in Las Vegas, Nevada, and goes into the fight as an overwhelming favourite with the bookmakers.

It's the 31-year-old's first bout since he defeated Danny Garcia in December 2020.

But speaking to reporters earlier this week, 44-year-old Mayweather Jr, who outpointed the former 147lbs world titleholder in May 2015, has urged Spence to take Pacquiao seriously.

As 'Pretty Boy' sees it, he feels the 42-year-old still has plenty left in the tank.

"He [Pacquiao] is very dangerous still," Mayweather said (via BoxingNews24).

Mayweather decisively beat Pacquiao over 12 rounds in May 2015 to end the debate which had raged on for many years.

However, he recently named the legendary Pac Man as the toughest opponent he has ever faced in his career.

Teofimo Lopez, like Mayweather, has also preached caution to his fellow American, noting that Pacquiao has more experience operating at a higher level of competition, which could turn out to be a big factor on the night.

"Anything can happen, and Pacquiao has had a long rest too," Lopez said (via BoxingNews24). "I like both guys in that fight, and may the best man win, really.

"Manny has so much experience; he can get through anything.

"As long as they have the right plan, whatever they do, they’ll have that. They’ll be able to do all that."

Despite Lopez's admiration for Pacquiao, however, he refused to dismiss Spence's talents.

"However, Errol Spence, you can’t take anything away from Errol Spence," he added. "He’s still young, he’s in his prime, and he knows how to place body shots.

"He’s very strong at that; he’s like a body snatcher."

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/boxi...rtan-ntp-feeds

[SlimTrae]

A win over Spence is 3x greater than a win over Thurman.

Thurman's off again on again career never allowed us to see his best. Nevertheless losing to Pac didn't expose Thurman, rather showed that Pac is dangerous (given the right style opponent)


With Spence? Different story. This dude throws punches in bunches, upstairs, downstairs 1,000 a fight if needed. Big, strong & skilled enough to say a Pac win would NOT imo hurt Spence's legacy rather validate how truly great Pac is (again given the right style to show it)


The stats of Pac fluctuates way too wildly to not see this. He throws 1,000 with come forward fighters but with counterpunchers he is reduced at times to just half.



Floyd Mayweather 148 outta 435 punches
Manny Pacquiao's 81 outta 429.

34% accuracy vs 19% accuracy.

While Pac's team claimed injury prevented him from throwing more I am not convinced. When he had openings and cornered Floyd, nothing whatsoever made me think he was throwing while in immense pain.


Plus his fights with JMM show a trend- each time Pac threw less, landed less & had lesser accuracy- If JMM can force Pac to go from over 600 punches thrown to their trilogy of him throwing under 600, how is it not feasible to conclude a far better counterpuncher in Floyd would drop that % even more?
157 outta 619 Fight I
down to
176 outta 578 Fight III

So against Floyd 81 outta 429 just doesnt equate to a one armed injured fighter.
& Pac getting robbed vs Horn- he didn't throw that 1,000 bonanza-fest not due to counterpunching but a rough-houser. His output again- 580

Pac has proven from fight to fight the disparity can go from 1,000+ thrown to only 600 thrown back up to 800, back down...

I think with Spence He will look like he's stalled father time's clock because he'll have the chance to throw against a fighter who doesn't use a lot of ring movement.

Spence will be there and as usual, Pac's output is always higher against a fighter who is there.

I expect an 800 punch measure -no less from each guy. Only way it is lesser is if someone is KTFO'd!

This will be Pac's swan song-he loses with pride. And if Joshua Clottey could swell him up, throwing next to nothing- I can't envision Spence doing no lesser. I predict Spence will beat his ass so bad, we will feel sorry like Ali losing to Holmes, Leonard losing to Camacho...it will look convincing. I have never made a bolder prediction here.

[SlimTrae]

Oh! & all these fighters stating Spence better take Pac serious, serious? Spence called Pac out! Called it a dream fight! He is bringing ass to the table, Pac better get some sparring to prepare him for a fighter who is powerful on the inside.


I saw a youtube video of Spence a few years ago throwing bodypunches with a dude in a backyard...he looked close to HW...playful but they were bare knuckle, that big dude caved in.