Who’s had the vaccine ? Side effects ?

[Kirkland Laing]

MOUNTAIN HOME, Ark. — When the boat factory in this leafy Ozark Mountains city offered free coronavirus vaccinations this spring, Susan Johnson, 62, a receptionist there, declined the offer, figuring she was protected as long as she never left her house without a mask.
Linda Marion, 68, a widow with chronic pulmonary disease, worried that a vaccination might actually trigger Covid-19 and kill her. Barbara Billigmeier, 74, an avid golfer who retired here from California, believed she did not need it because “I never get sick.”
Last week, all three were patients on 2 West, an overflow ward that is now largely devoted to treating Covid-19 at Baxter Regional Medical Center, the largest hospital in north-central Arkansas. Mrs. Billigmeier said the scariest part was that “you can’t breathe.” For 10 days, Ms. Johnson had relied on supplemental oxygen being fed to her lungs through nasal tubes.
Ms. Marion said that at one point, she felt so sick and frightened that she wanted to give up. “It was just terrible,” she said. “I felt like I couldn’t take it.”


Yet despite their ordeals, none of them changed their minds about getting vaccinated. “It’s just too new,” Mrs. Billigmeier said. “It is like an experiment.”


https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/17/u...9-vaccine.html



We are fucked. We are absolutely fucked.

[TitoFan]

I would give out taser guns to all store/shop workers who are tasked with asking customers to wear their masks.

Also... in that last video where the disabled Walmart worker was being beaten on while lying on the floor... WTF is it with people just standing around filming instead of jumping in and pulling the assailant off??

This is where the justice system needs to be swift and send messages out to these braindead people. Throw the mofo in prison for assault and battery... and maybe someone in there will "take a liking" to him.

[Kirkland Laing]

It would help if conservative media wasn't full of bullshit propaganda about the vaccines. With the news that ninety nine percent of hospitalisations being unvaccinated people it appears the people at the top at Fox have realised the damage they're doing and are going to do at least enough to avoid getting the blame when the curent wave escalates:

https://twitter.com/joshtpm/status/1417313134948274180

[Kirkland Laing]

Great job congress:

https://twitter.com/sam_a_bell/statu...10841407115265

Just wait until COVID 24 hits.

[TIC]

I would give out taser guns to all store/shop workers who are tasked with asking customers to wear their masks.

Also... in that last video where the disabled Walmart worker was being beaten on while lying on the floor... WTF is it with people just standing around filming instead of jumping in and pulling the assailant off??

This is where the justice system needs to be swift and send messages out to these braindead people. Throw the mofo in prison for assault and battery... and maybe someone in there will "take a liking" to him.

i don't shop anywhere that requires a mask. i will always go into places with signs that no masks are allowed inside & purchase something

[SlimTrae]

Fox News has a vaccine passport program to protect its employees, despite the network’s on-air messaging: reports

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/fo...?ocid=msedgdhp

Fox Corporation issues out the :FOX Clear Pass.

employees who provide information regarding the dates they were vaccinated and the vaccination they received would be helping the company with “space planning and contact tracing & will no longer be required to complete a daily health screening, according to the reports.


Where are all the Trump voters? Is it too difficult to blame mainstream media---for what their own media is now doing?


Newminimum or newsmax-same deal.
https://thehill.com/homenews/media/5...accine-efforts
Newsmax CEO: Biden 'should be applauded' for vaccine efforts

He wrote: "Six months into his administration, President Joe Biden should be applauded for making a huge dent in the COVID pandemic,"


The newsmax guy ended it with this: "The bottom line: The vaccines are safe and effective."

How is it that the very demographic that not only refuses the vaccine, but called covid a hoax...has to listen,read & watch their own media outlets...contradict EVERYTHING they reported last year?

Fox News host Sean Hannity encouraged viewers to get COVID-19 vaccines on Monday. "I can't say it enough. Enough people have died. We don't need any more death," he said.

I have no problem with people who dont want the vaccine or fear it. I do have a problem with those who politisized it- by claiming it is a hoax. Then they do a 180 turn & now claim it is needed.

[TIC]

i have a problem with people that push their fears & beliefs onto others & can't prove them to be true

[Beanz]

i have a problem with people that push their fears & beliefs onto others & can't prove them to be true

You have just very succinctly summed up your own behaviour. We are still awaiting one grain of evidence from your massive sand castle.

[TIC]

i have a problem with people that push their fears & beliefs onto others & can't prove them to be true

You have just very succinctly summed up your own behaviour. We are still awaiting one grain of evidence from your massive sand castle.

it's your belief seven times larry. tell me how you know covaids is a virus

[SlimTrae]

Fuhrer Drumpf's state ran media OAN Off ass network are still on his side. Every article is anti-vac.--accept 1!!!!!!

Their headlines:
1. Vaccine Door-Knocking Instructions Revealed
Joe Biden’s vaccination door-knockers have received their sales pitch script. One America’s Jasmin Hovey has more.

2. Vaccine Door-Knocking Instructions Revealed


(not a typo) They got 2 seperate stories with the same title.


3. Study Suggests COVID-19 Survivors Have Strong Antibody Immunity, No Need For COVID Vaccination


4. Deaths From Vaccine Top 6K As FDA Issues Warning After Spike In Cases Of Fatal Heart Inflammation


After they rip the vaccine to shreds article after article, they have the audacity to headline this:
White House Claims President Trump Has Yet To Endorse Vaccines
The Biden administration keeps getting the facts wrong while desperately trying to meet it’s vaccination goal


Column after column, story after story that the vaccine causes death, is using us a ginny pigs, can't be trusted, but OH by the way! Biden doesnt want to give Fuhrer Drump credit for creating what we poopoo all over.


https://www.oann.com/tag/vaccine/

I do wonder what is the conclusion for people who visit OAN....
Ignore virus.
Call it a hoax.
Give praise to Don for telling us it is fake, but it is deadly. Dont trust bigpharma, but I alone made the vaccine rollout fast. How fast?
At Warp Speed!
https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov...accine-summit/

Drumpf's speech:
"It would normally take five years, six years, seven years, or even more. In order to achieve this goal, we harnessed the full power of government, the genius of American scientists, and the might of American industry to save millions and millions of lives all over the world. We’re just days away from authorization from the FDA, and we’re pushing them hard, at which point we will immediately begin mass distribution.

Before Operation Warp Speed, the typical timeframe for development and approval, as you know, could be infinity. And we were very, very happy that we were able to get things done at a level that nobody has ever seen before. The gold standard vaccine has been done in less than nine months."


THe very demographic that claims this was rushed, no time to test...dont want to acknowledge this was done by their own President. Skip the trial period, just get it out there!

[SlimTrae]

What worries me. Is how this one virus (1st in my lifetime) has mutated or it's offspring has produced so many different kinds in under what? 1 year and a1/2 at best?

wuhan covid 19
alpha
delta variant
BV-1 for its Brazos Valley origin.
And now 1st case of lambda COVID-19 variant

A major Texas hospital system has reported its first case of the lambda COVID-19 variant, as the state reels from the rampant delta variant from Peru.
https://www.yahoo.com/gma/texas-hosp...183000620.html

so if we blame china for wuhan, do we blame Peru for lambda? The delta region for delta? Strong males for alpha?


The C.37 spike protein is characterized by several novel deletions and mutations


does the current vaccine work for all these? Or will we find ourselves a year from today taking booster shots for several variants?
3, 4 shots per 1/2 year? 6-10 shots a year?
At what point do we discuss the immune system's ability do at least handle some of the work? Or do we resign and just depend on bigpharma so lovingly giving us this without a nominal fee?

Whatever is in the vaccine seems to be working. However we are treading close to self herding thinking we have only one option- big pharma.
That is what worries me. How are they so able & so willing to give it to us -across the planet earth...free of charge.

[SlimTrae]

Again the very industry aka Bigpharma (at least in USA) that rails against them claiming the other political party doesnt want to fight to lower the cost of drug perscriptions (cause the other party sides with bigpharma...)

Well, somehow Bigpharma isnt offering us a low price. The shit is free. Every shot. Booster included.

I think of instances like the drug co. Eli Lilly
At one time Eli Lilly payroll:

Former President George Herbert Walker Bush (one-time member of the Eli Lilly board of directors)
Former CEO of Enron, Ken Lay (one-time member of the Eli Lilly board of directors)
George W. Bush’s former director of Management and Budget, Mitch Daniels (a former Eli Lilly vice president)
George W. Bush’s Homeland Security Advisory Council member, Sidney Taurel (current CEO of Eli Lilly)
The National Alliance for the Mentally Ill (a recipient of Eli Lilly funding)


And how IMO Bush Sr. suckered the American people into claiming- Democrats want to tax you, but I will force bigpharma to pay their fair price. What happened? The taxation was minimized- but so, too was the control the people had...as a result big pharma paying....for decades may have made Congress and/or FDA dependent on their $$$.

What Bush Sr did: Prescription Drug User Fee Act
Congress clearly likes PDUFA as the act has been renewed five times since 1992.
https://ethics.harvard.edu/lab/blog/312-risky-drugs

See: Is The FDA Being Compromised By Pharma Payments?
https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnlam...h=338785d52830


in JLME aka Journal of Law, Medicine and Ethics (JLME), Donald W. Light of the School of Public Health, University of Medicine & Dentistry of NJ, wrote an article entitled “Risky Drugs: Why The FDA Cannot Be Trusted”.

His claim since Bush enacted that law- the industry started making large contributions to the FDA for reviewing its drug.
They also make large contributions to Congressmen- since then the FDA has sped up the review process with the result that drugs approved are significantly more likely to cause serious harm, hospitalizations, and deaths.”

His claim: pharma paid congressmen to sponsor legislation that results in the FDA being beholden to pharma for funding for its work.

Congress clearly likes PDUFA as the act has been renewed five times since 1992.

PDUFA-V was approved in 2012 under Obama.
In 1995, The actual user fee charged to each company filing an NDA in 1995 was $208,000.
In 2014, the user fee will be $2,169,100.


Is that a good or bad thing that the amount increases? Good for the people or the company or the politicians?


I did look at the opposite side- A John LaMattina disputes the concept of Bigpharma controlling the FDA since the law was enacted. However I am skeptical of him because when I looked at HIS history...he was Senior Partner at PureTech and was previously President, Pfizer Global Research. I would expect for him to defend pharmeceutical companies.