Today In Biden Land

[Kirkland Laing]

I'm for the WhiteHouse investing in resources to get info out that they feel is factual, but when they say they are flagging Facebook for posts they deem is bad. I wonder if Biden voters flipped the script- If Trump states- we are flagging facebook posts we dont like.....


The founders of American democracy (Jefferson) and its party (Jackson) didnt think that way. They deemed the printing presses of their day as a great technological source for information aka media- Jefferson was called the son of a 1/2 sqaw. Mean. And a nigguh lover. Jackson was called a trampler of the constitution, he was labeled an adulterer by the media of that day and his wife a whore . Yet when pressed by their constituents on how to respond- they stated allow a free press.


If the white house intervenes on facebook, twitter or anything...they are no longer a limited government with powers few and well defined- the very thing Jefferson to Madison to Jackson ensured would not occur.

“The powers delegated by the proposed Constitution to the federal government are few and defined. Those which are to remain in the State governments are numerous and indefinite. The former will be exercised principally on external objects, as war, peace, negotiation and foreign commerce. ... The powers reserved to the several States will extend to all the objects which in the ordinary course of affairs, concern the lives and liberties, and properties of the people, and the internal order, improvement and prosperity of the State.


What was said by Psaki IMO was tacky. Tacky as hell. Jackson were alive today- he'd take one look at her boss and tell Joe...to skin his smokewagon...

https://money.cnn.com/2017/10/11/med...eet/index.html


https://thehill.com/policy/technolog...on-nbc-license


The Democrats want to try and limit bullshit vaccine conspiracy theories that are killing thousands of Americans and this is a bad thing and something the government shouldn't be doing in the middle of a pandemic?

At their own peril. Too easy to get labeled as partisan by going after social platforms -as democrats(FB, Twitters) as opposed to media (OAN, NEWSMAX) I guess the FCC is no longer meaningful in such issues.
& what a world we are in when social platforms becomes the common means for citizens to claim they have 'real' news.


I agree the government has a responsibility. But if they go the route of censoring in the midst of being labeled as a cancel culture, hard to see something postive.

I understand your position. I concur. But I aslo try to understand the bigger issue IMO which is deciminating government info over censoring social media.

Lets say they are successful, so what about OAN? NEWSMAX? Or Radio via Clear Channel and their seemingly limitless Rush wannabes across A.M. radio?
In other words where do they draw the line? Instagram? What if Telegram & Parler becomes the conduit for the lamda variant?
https://www.chicagotribune.com/coron...6cu-story.html

What if Stormfront becomes the biggest source for the new monkey pox?
https://www.al.com/news/2021/07/what...diagnosis.html

I don't offer a hard yes or no, just raising the question if that is the best means? To go after social media.

The government isn't censoring anybody. The public health people are flagging bullshit/dangerous anti vaccine propaganda on social media and letting the social media companies know about it. The reason they're doing this is to save lives. It's up to the social media companies whether to remove this stuff or not.

Bear in mind the social media companies delete thousands of posts and accounts every day. In the middle of a pandemic that's killing thousands of Americans a month and has killed over half a million already the social media companies are still letting these anti vaccine people, lots of whom are scammers selling vitamin supplements and so on as fake cures/preventative medicine for the virus, to post endless bullshit that is costing people their lives.

One of the duties and obligations any government has is the public health of the nation. The government would be derilict in its duty if it wasn't doing everything it could to prevent needless death. I'd be fine with them actually censoring these people, taking every penny they own and locking the fuckers up without trial to be honest but the government is staying well within the laws of the land.

[Kirkland Laing]

This fucker should be locked up in a proper federal prison and every penny he's made scamming people should be taken off him including any money given to his family in the past. Boot them all out on the street, take their houses off them and so on.



https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/24/t...?smid=tw-share

[SlimTrae]

I'm for the WhiteHouse investing in resources to get info out that they feel is factual, but when they say they are flagging Facebook for posts they deem is bad. I wonder if Biden voters flipped the script- If Trump states- we are flagging facebook posts we dont like.....


The founders of American democracy (Jefferson) and its party (Jackson) didnt think that way. They deemed the printing presses of their day as a great technological source for information aka media- Jefferson was called the son of a 1/2 sqaw. Mean. And a nigguh lover. Jackson was called a trampler of the constitution, he was labeled an adulterer by the media of that day and his wife a whore . Yet when pressed by their constituents on how to respond- they stated allow a free press.


If the white house intervenes on facebook, twitter or anything...they are no longer a limited government with powers few and well defined- the very thing Jefferson to Madison to Jackson ensured would not occur.

“The powers delegated by the proposed Constitution to the federal government are few and defined. Those which are to remain in the State governments are numerous and indefinite. The former will be exercised principally on external objects, as war, peace, negotiation and foreign commerce. ... The powers reserved to the several States will extend to all the objects which in the ordinary course of affairs, concern the lives and liberties, and properties of the people, and the internal order, improvement and prosperity of the State.


What was said by Psaki IMO was tacky. Tacky as hell. Jackson were alive today- he'd take one look at her boss and tell Joe...to skin his smokewagon...

https://money.cnn.com/2017/10/11/med...eet/index.html


https://thehill.com/policy/technolog...on-nbc-license


The Democrats want to try and limit bullshit vaccine conspiracy theories that are killing thousands of Americans and this is a bad thing and something the government shouldn't be doing in the middle of a pandemic?

At their own peril. Too easy to get labeled as partisan by going after social platforms -as democrats(FB, Twitters) as opposed to media (OAN, NEWSMAX) I guess the FCC is no longer meaningful in such issues.
& what a world we are in when social platforms becomes the common means for citizens to claim they have 'real' news.


I agree the government has a responsibility. But if they go the route of censoring in the midst of being labeled as a cancel culture, hard to see something postive.

I understand your position. I concur. But I aslo try to understand the bigger issue IMO which is deciminating government info over censoring social media.

Lets say they are successful, so what about OAN? NEWSMAX? Or Radio via Clear Channel and their seemingly limitless Rush wannabes across A.M. radio?
In other words where do they draw the line? Instagram? What if Telegram & Parler becomes the conduit for the lamda variant?
https://www.chicagotribune.com/coron...6cu-story.html

What if Stormfront becomes the biggest source for the new monkey pox?
https://www.al.com/news/2021/07/what...diagnosis.html

I don't offer a hard yes or no, just raising the question if that is the best means? To go after social media.

The government isn't censoring anybody. The public health people are flagging bullshit/dangerous anti vaccine propaganda on social media and letting the social media companies know about it. The reason they're doing this is to save lives. It's up to the social media companies whether to remove this stuff or not.

Bear in mind the social media companies delete thousands of posts and accounts every day. In the middle of a pandemic that's killing thousands of Americans a month and has killed over half a million already the social media companies are still letting these anti vaccine people, lots of whom are scammers selling vitamin supplements and so on as fake cures/preventative medicine for the virus, to post endless bullshit that is costing people their lives.

One of the duties and obligations any government has is the public health of the nation. The government would be derilict in its duty if it wasn't doing everything it could to prevent needless death. I'd be fine with them actually censoring these people, taking every penny they own and locking the fuckers up without trial to be honest but the government is staying well within the laws of the land.

Yes sir, Flagging is what Psaki stated. Thats why I said- But if they go the route of censoring...

Again this isn't an avenue as in singular.
https://www.conservativeradio.com/

Thats why I listed the right wing media (along with the social media companies) their thousands of radio programs saturating our airwaves daily with information, misinformation & even disinformatiom so I asked where does it end? Where do the FB people get their stuff from? From right wing media! flaggin social media isn't close to 1/2 or 1/8th the avenues to dissiminate. Disagree?

Again I am not disagreeing with you nor making a point, rather I am raising the question: where does it end? If I were a reporter that is what I would have asked Psaki: Are you going to flag the radio & television stations that gives this info- for their viewers to post?


Sinclair host Eric Bolling interviewed a coronavirus conspiracy theory. The video has been removed from multiple social media platforms- but not from the source aka a television station

https://www.mediamatters.org/sinclai...us-coronavirus

https://www.mediamatters.org/sinclai...ead-their-lies
Sinclair gives “Plandemic" conspiracy theorists a platform to spread their lies about Dr. Fauci and the coronavirus


it is an awful mess. A horrendeous virus and an unbelievable piss poor job by my government, not sure of yours.

[SlimTrae]

If a President Biden even thinks of flagging or calling out radio & television stations, no matter how sincere he may be- that is in fact supppression of free speech.

Lincold did it, he may as well, but we're treading into deep waters. As of lately there seems to be no free speech on possible solution(s), so as a result anyone who attempts to offer an alternative to big pharma will be labeled. ridiculed as fake. Now we got both parties crying fake. Is not! Is too!

[Spicoli]

I do like the fact that he's putting the 'question' of a mandate out in the open and admitting that in a round about way it's unclear if it's right-allowed or even legal, the right route. Thought he would announce a mandate for only Federal employees but he's not even going that route, little surprising. As for a Federal mandate on vaccinating citizens that's just not going to happen nor should it. Just that side of me that is against the Government mandating anything per the individual be it Obamas mandate penalty for not enrolling or dictating the affairs and policies of private business. If you listen the last couple of days there are increasing numbers of businesses small and massive that are taking their own steps to require proof of vaccination, or none, as well as new employee and new hire protocols. And that's exactly how it should be. And that's not with FDA approval which for some reason is nonexistent. You wanna see vaccination numbers soar it needs to be FDA approved for many.

[Spicoli]

If a President Biden even thinks of flagging or calling out radio & television stations, no matter how sincere he may be- that is in fact supppression of free speech.

Lincold did it, he may as well, but we're treading into deep waters. As of lately there seems to be no free speech on possible solution(s), so as a result anyone who attempts to offer an alternative to big pharma will be labeled. ridiculed as fake. Now we got both parties crying fake. Is not! Is too!

Not to mention the previous Individual #1 who had lawyers send cease and desist letters and threatened a free press every other day and railed about the FFC pulling licenses and leveeing huge fines because they called the Administration out for it's incompetent response to Covid.

[Kirkland Laing]

If a President Biden even thinks of flagging or calling out radio & television stations, no matter how sincere he may be- that is in fact supppression of free speech.

Lincold did it, he may as well, but we're treading into deep waters. As of lately there seems to be no free speech on possible solution(s), so as a result anyone who attempts to offer an alternative to big pharma will be labeled. ridiculed as fake. Now we got both parties crying fake. Is not! Is too!

There is a solution. The vaccines. We know they work.

There aren't any other alternatives. There are a bunch of vitamin selling scammers trying to push bullshit alternatives and they're getting thousands of people killed. The government would be failing in its duty to protect the nation's health if it didn't try and do anything about it.

Once again, only one administration in recent history has threatened broadcasters and social media outlets for broadcasting/publishing stuff they didn't like and it's not the Biden administration.

[Kirkland Laing]

I can't understand how this guy working for this organisation would publish such a thing. He must be close to retirement and have his pension locked in.

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/ar...ans-better-not

The six hundred or so billion a year is actually a trillion dollars a year according to the guy currently running the IRS and this doesn't count all the tax being (legally) avoided. The trillion a year is illegal evasion.



Worth remembering as Republican start screaming about Biden spending. Even if all of Biden's three point five trillion in new spending gets passed it's over ten years and is only about one percent of the projected three hundred trillion in GDP in that period. Trump rang up five trillion in four years and not a peep from the GOP. Also, big difference between massive tax cuts for the top one percent and trillions invested in American infrastructure:

https://www.crfb.org/blogs/president...llion-debt-law

Trump spending is all pure debt and Biden's spending will be partly paid for, would be fully paid for if the GOP would agree to tax increases on top earners.



Jesus wept:

https://jabberwocking.com/finally-we...n-our-schools/



This is protected speech and the Biden administration is doing nothing about it. It's also getting thousands of people killed and giving tens of thousands of people long term serious illnesses:

https://twitter.com/BrendanNyhan/sta...46834955710468


Left wing media in action:

https://twitter.com/davenewworld_2/s...17445564047364



GDP:

https://twitter.com/jasonfurman/stat...32724474748928



More left wing media. British paper covers Trump family involvement in yet another con. Another settlement, admit no wrongdoing etc etc:

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world...edgdhp&pc=U531





Keep scrolling:

https://twitter.com/paulkrugman/stat...36112033665024





I haven't read this yet. Looks interesting though:

https://jabberwocking.com/the-secret...ng-america-is/




Finally this is not political but there's nowhere else to put it. It deserves some kind of award I think:

https://twitter.com/CHHNDLER/status/1419340550902272005

[palmerq]

Keep scrolling:

https://twitter.com/paulkrugman/stat...36112033665024

Good stuff in that short thread there...


I've been listening to krugman book at work(arguing with zombies) it seems to mostly be collections of his old blogs but I found one of the old articles amusing and slightly relevant to the Goings in this year..

https://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/20...d&login=google

The last paragraph of that post seems to work even 12 years later
......... Well I found it a bit funny anyway.

[TitoFan]

One good thing about Biden's subtle pot shots at "Former Guy" is that I personally find out about some of the hilarious things Former Guy did during his four years which I wasn't personally paying attention to.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/joe-b...b0048f3619d5a0

I guess I wasn't paying too much attention to all this "Infrastructure Week" car-crash hoopla back when it was happening, although it was duly reported by different news outlets.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/22/u...ture-week.html

Infrastructure week.....




Although I'm not a Biden fan... I do find some pleasure in any and all digs he manages to throw Former Guy's way. It's the least he can do.