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    There's no chance of any of that happening though is there. The GOP won't want to spend time talking about the first nineteen plus years of the war, which they fully supported, or the first six months of the twentieth year after Trump signed the withdrawl agreement, which they also supported. They're going to want to talk about the last three weeks and nothing else. When they get control of either the House or Senate in 2022 they're going to launch dozens of Benghazi like investigations to try and fuck Biden up for the 2024 election. The first nineteen and a half years will be forgotten about.

    The Democrats will want to get some kind of investigation done before the midterm elections. They'll want to cover the first nineteen and a half years and show that once the Afghan army collapsed that a messy withdrawl was inevitable. Let's see who gets the type and the quantity of media coverage and influence on public opinion that they're after.

    My prediction: two years of sensationalised Benghazi-like bullshit will completely wipe out the public's goldfish-like memory of any factual stuff that came out in the pre-midterm investigations and the wrong lessons will be learnt leaving America free to launch an equally stupid and self destructive invasion of somewhere else in a few decades from now.

    The South Vietnamese army, the Iraqi army and the Afghan army all fell apart in no time. The South Vietnamese army actually lasted over two years. The other two fell apart against ragtag armies in pickup trucks armed with AKs in a matter of days. All three attempts at army/nation building were accompanied by decades of lies from the top down, all the senior politicians and military are complicit in the ongoing loss of thousands of American lives on a pack of lies, not to mention tens of thousands wounded and millions of dead foreign nonentities. And not a single person has ever been or will ever be held accountable.

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    The bullshit mountain after the midterms and before the 2024 election will be created from the withdrawl from Afghanistan over the past few weeks.

    The bullshit mountain from the end of the last election until the midterms is being created from bullshit claims that the election was stolen. A reminder that the people creating the bullshit, at least the vast majority of them, know that it's bullshit and don't care that they're destroying democracy in America by doing it:

    https://twitter.com/funder/status/1432768038466621442

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    Pretty bleak outlook. But one... all in all... that is totally deserved given past history. If politics was the poison that ruined good intentions in the past... it's certainly become magnified given the last four years. People don't think right and wrong, like they at least made it seem like they used to. People think in one-upmanship and my Party is better than your Party. I've plenty of discussions with Trumpers, even outside this forum, where I've seen time and again that logic goes absolutely nowhere. This is why stolen election lies get swallowed hook, line, and sinker. This is why a previously unthinkable event, like a forced breach of the Capitol by a vicious mob, becomes the subject of debate along predictable Party lines. To watch and hear Congresspeople, paid by taxpayers money, call January 6th a peaceful demonstration... is to realize just how far down the rabbit hole this society has fallen. Which is why I refuse to identify fully with any Party. They have proven incapable of objective thought all the way up to the highest levels. Credibility is a word of the past. Democrats had four years to constructively prepare for 2020... and IMO they did a horseshit job. For sure Biden is an upgrade from Trump. But that's about as far as I'm willing to go with that. When the bar is Trump... a trained sub-human primate is an improvement.

    So yeah... your bleak outlook is justifiable. Surely Afghanistan will offer few, if any, lessons learned. History will repeat itself ad nauseam.

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    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...id=mailsignout


    Gee... THIS is heartening. Not that anyone was expecting anything different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...id=mailsignout


    Gee... THIS is heartening. Not that anyone was expecting anything different.
    & RightWingers will easily forget it is the mainstream media deriding him with headlines like:

    Baker On Afghanistan Fallout For Biden: 'It Has Damaged Him Politically'



    Afghan War Veteran: "I Will Never Forgive My Country For This'




    They can easily spin it...but they aren't. Headlines to videos articles, columns like:
    * President Biden Faces Backlash For Afghanistan Withdrawal
    *War-Thirsty Media Demanding Another War


    Such headlines aren't needed from the right when the left hollars out HEY! LOOK AT THIS TITLE!!
    Nicolle Wallace On What Everyone Got Wrong About Biden



    Again, MSNBC.


    When I went to Ron Paul Liberty Report? He was the closest thing I saw to objective reporting:
    Weekly Update --- Afghanistan: A Tragically Stupid War Comes to a Tragic End



    If you peruse any video, this is the one I would reccomend. it is only 4 minutes and Paul derides the origin of the war, the weakness of Trump to do nothing and then a tragic pullout
    What is hurtful IMO is the comments of how Rons' supporters dont give a damn that he said he would have done the same thing...Or as he was asked in 2008 how would he end the war on terror he replie: Just Bring them Home.

    We all know there was a never a plan and before Osama's death he even stated they were most patient because they have nothing so when USA does tire and grow weary....they will be waiting - they aint got shit else to do!
    So whenever we pull out - they would be laying in the wings...


    He's dealing with an awful pullout- unlike when Reagan pulled out and didnt fight when our Marines were murdured in Lebanon...the Nation was not polarized with ideology back then- so we all came together...not anymore - it is ALL Biden's fault. All Democrat's planning the fall of our nation.

    It is Biden forcing us to be vaccinated.
    It is Biden continuing the war on heterosexuals
    It is Biden running up the deficit (cause now they care)

    When the Vatican stated they wanted to deny him communion? Damn...
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...ion/ar-AAL2Chm

    I wouldn't be surprised if his numbers drop into the 30% range...as we don't need FOX, OAN, NEWSMAX to tell us this...all of the above is MSNBC alone!!
    Last edited by SlimTrae; 09-03-2021 at 02:24 PM.
    All's lost! Everything's going to shit!

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    Last week, Democratic senator turned anti-tax lobbyist Heidi Heitkamp, who represented North Dakota for one term before losing in 2018, appeared on to make a surprisingly emotional appeal against President Biden’s plan to close a notorious loophole for the wealthy. The loophole, called “stepped-up basis” or “the angel-of-death loophole,” allows capital gains to escape any tax at all as long as the owners pass the asset on to their heirs before they sell it.
    Heitkamp’s thoughts were with the victims of this reform. She did not invoke the tax implications for the handful of extremely wealthy families that have been financing a lobbying effort to preserve their tax advantages, including the group that currently employs her as its public face. Instead, she cited the burden of an imaginary working-class man named “Sam.”
    The scenario that troubled Heitkamp was that Sam, or people like him, would inherit a family-owned cabin that had become extremely valuable and now have to pay tax on the estate. “The truck driver — let’s say truck-driver Sam, who let’s say makes $100,000 a year — all of a sudden now has a tax that he owes on inheriting that property,” she complained.
    In fact, the original Democratic proposal allowed for a $1 million exemption per spouse, and it allowed heirs a 15-year period to spread out the payments. So poor Sam would only have to pay tax on whatever value his cabin had over $2 million, which seems like a rather lavish spread for a working-class fellow, and he would have enjoyed a comfortable period over which to make those payments.
    Even so, the pleas made by Heitkamp and other moderate Democrats on behalf of the rural petite-bourgeoisie heirs to landowning fortunes exceeding $2 million were felt. Democrats in Congress proposed to raise the exemption to $5 million per spouse. Surely, now that truck drivers inheriting cabins worth less than $10 million would be spared, Heitkamp would have softened her opposition.............




    https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2021...ax-reform.html



    Vaccine mandates:

    https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/sta...79193146724353



    Vorsprung durch technik:

    https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/sta...67186854506500



    Some people who didn't get saturation media coverage way back when and could maybe do with a hand:

    https://twitter.com/dlippman/status/1435687715618557960



    American justice system latest:

    https://twitter.com/attackerman/stat...81317088980995



    Oh and not political but fantastic reading. Keep scrolling:

    https://twitter.com/incunabula/statu...03410902167552

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    Republican campaign managed who has run GOP presidential campaigns in the past on Republican vaccine politics:

    https://twitter.com/stuartpstevens/s...67717275459585



    related:

    https://twitter.com/steinkobbe/statu...86541080748040

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