i am referring to the person making the claim at the time. so since we are talking that is you right now. since you claimed it is demonstrable please provide me your processes of how you isolated convid from a person showing how they were infected from outside the body & then how you infected another healthy person from outside the body through the air or off surfaces. how do you know your family members had convid? tell me the processes you used that prove how you know that claim is true. not something someone else has told you. what you have actually done to prove your claims to be true. back up your claims spastic