Anthony Joshuas career is over

[smashup]

Joshua will still earn more money than most people can imagine. Olympic gold medal and heaps of cash.
He can at least be proud of what he has achieved, he may not go down as one of the very greatest champions but he is far from a failure .

OP thread started of rubbish but the comment above saved it.

No rubbish I'm this thread just pure fact 😉

So come on tell us where Joshua goes from here, bare in mind he won't win a rematch if he chooses that route.

[Beanz]

Like I said before the fight if you dismiss Joshua as a 'hype Job' after losing to someone as solid as Usyk, especially if you called this a 50/50 fight before hand. You are a bit of a clown.

If you are going to then bring race or skin colour up as being even remotely relevant, or ' more embarrassing' for Joshua because of your own projected racism, then you are a Muppet.

[Memphis]

It doesn't have to be, but you suspect it might. Its not so much losing, it's the way he lost that's concerning. He basically watched his titles slip away and either couldn't, or wouldn't do anything about it. It looked a bit of both to me. He knows how to punch, he knows how to punch fucking hard, but didn't.

What he did on Saturday gets him beaten again by Usyk, gets him beat against Fury. And probably gets him horribly knocked out against Wilder.

He'll fight on. If he's going to have any success he needs to get his head on right and decide who he is and what he is. If his current team isn't on board with what he wants to be then he needs to make changes there.

[mrbig1]

To my UK friends here. It looks like you got another Audley Harrison on your hands.

[Mark TKO]

To my UK friends here. It looks like you got another Audley Harrison on your hands.

That's a joke right?

[Spicoli]

You don't just go from the very top of the world to non existent overnight. We're talking about a sport that recycles more high profile stars for future events than Hollywood. I'm beginning to think we'll see fractured titles off this though. Mandatories read off and who the hell knows what shakes out during and after Fury v Wilder. Opportunities will be there and I am wondering once the dust settles if Hearn and AJ will be so eager to rush right back into an immediate rematch. Not so sure that's best for him. I think physically AJ remains intact and capable. His legs have always bothered me and he was crossed multiple times early Saturday. But bigger and more of a determining factor is real speak..his mental make up! It's just odd. The entire approach of taking off weight and then proceeding to be the larger man honestly approaching things as if he were the smaller man . Out boxing and looking slick v Andy Ruiz is one thing but they made no adjustment to mix in some genuine hostility and to actually use that imo overrated size advantage v a ring master in Usyk. Two rounds in it was clear he was just going to need to bite down on his piece and punch with Usyk, counter punches be damned. You fight a boxer. Make it grimy, foot step here, clinch walk back there, just use your mass to center him ffs. But he watched it play out at times like he was a paying spectator just enjoying the view. AJs problems to me is clearly between his ears. Not his heart as I don't do the whole 'no heart' thing from the comfort of a keyboard. But his mental resignation late and post fight was rather eye opening.

[TIC]

depends what is meant by over. aj could still make big fights & big money. i just don't see him at the top of the mountain

[SlimTrae]

You don't just go from the very top of the world to non existent overnight. We're talking about a sport that recycles more high profile stars for future events than Hollywood. I'm beginning to think we'll see fractured titles off this though. Mandatories read off and who the hell knows what shakes out during and after Fury v Wilder. Opportunities will be there and I am wondering once the dust settles if Hearn and AJ will be so eager to rush right back into an immediate rematch. Not so sure that's best for him. I think physically AJ remains intact and capable. His legs have always bothered me and he was crossed multiple times early Saturday. But bigger and more of a determining factor is real speak..his mental make up! It's just odd. The entire approach of taking off weight and then proceeding to be the larger man honestly approaching things as if he were the smaller man . Out boxing and looking slick v Andy Ruiz is one thing but they made no adjustment to mix in some genuine hostility and to actually use that imo overrated size advantage v a ring master in Usyk. Two rounds in it was clear he was just going to need to bite down on his piece and punch with Usyk, counter punches be damned. You fight a boxer. Make it grimy, foot step here, clinch walk back there, just use your mass to center him ffs. But he watched it play out at times like he was a paying spectator just enjoying the view. AJs problems to me is clearly between his ears. Not his heart as I don't do the whole 'no heart' thing from the comfort of a keyboard. But his mental resignation late and post fight was rather eye opening.

Well said. I think Chisora was far tougher in that Usyk got on his bike in that fight. With AJ he kept center of ring only circling proving he had no fear and AJ didnt feel obliged to MAKE Usyk respect him.

[mrbig1]

To my UK friends here. It looks like you got another Audley Harrison on your hands.

That's a joke right?

Not really. Both won gold turn pro and got there ass handed to them. Both are done.

[Mark TKO]

I never thought Joshua was as great as he was made out to be but no way can you compare him to Audley. No way