Tyson Fury v Deontay Wilder 3

[smashup]

That was an epicwar, this trilogy is up there with the very best in boxing history.
Would have loved to have seen Wilder offer Fury his hand after the fight instead of sulking then leaving the ring.
Wilder was brilliant last night and showed a huge set of balls to stay on his feet.
Fury was Fury and seems more and more half man half Terminator and impossible to beat if you try to fight/KO him.
I know Usyk is by a mile a tiny man with zero physical advantages but I do think he's clever enough to try and outbox Fury.
I've got more respect for Wilder than AJ after his performance last night, he's willing to have a proper go and let's his bombs go.
I'd pick Wilder to KO AJ if they fought.
Fury v Usyk looks very likely to happen in about 12 months for all the belts.
The Heavyweight division is properly alive and kicking 🥊

[TitoFan]

My takeaways from the fight:

Credit where credit is due. I never liked Fury's style, ever since that sham of a heavyweight fight against Wladimir. But I gotta take my hat off to the man. First... he stepped in when Wilder and Joshua were doing their soap opera dance and decided to face Wilder instead (getting Joshua off the hook it seems). Next... he gets up from a HELLACIOUS combination in the 1st fight and goes on to finish the fight... arguably deserving the decision instead of a draw. He gave Wilder two more chances and knocked him out in both. I may not like when he faces the Wallins and Schwartzes of the world... but he's proven his mettle as a heavyweight champion.

Wilder has a lion's heart (so does Fury, BTW). He was stumbling around early in the fight but fought on. Even managed to get Fury in trouble himself in the 4th round, after being knocked down himself. He truly went out on his shield. IMO, Wilder can still KTFO most other heavyweights out there today.

The extra weight did him no good. I said as much before the fight. If anything, it took away his stamina. He was gassed from the 3rd round on. He didn't help himself by swinging for the fences early on... but the writing was on the wall. Fury's extra weight was more advantageous for him than Wilder's was for him. Although the ref was on top of it, and prevented Fury from leaning down on Wilder... just pushing Fury around was too exhausting for Wilder.

Fury takes a better punch than I thought. It's just that I remember him getting floored by some light HW named Cunningham years back... and I figured Fury had a suspect chin. Obviously the 1st Wilder fight proved me wrong... and the 3rd one did also. Fury takes a fantastic punch.

For my taste, I liked the job done by the ref last night. He was quick to separate them... and it made for a clean fight.

Finally... I think the stock of BOTH guys goes up after last night. It may seem strange to say Wilder's stock went up from a loss..... but Wilder showed he can make adjustments to his game plan. Early on he was jabbing insistently at Fury's body... and you could tell he's been trying very hard to rectify his boxing shortcomings. He wasn't the "Atomic Windmill" he used to be early on in his career. It's just that Wilder just CANNOT beat Fury. Too big... too heavy... too quick... too skilled. Wilder gave it all in there. He should be commended for that.

[SlimTrae]

I will go against the grain and side with Wilder on the Fury-fat-gain.

Wilder finally responded- way too late- but needed- claimed he did his best. But it was not good enough.
He didn't complain, yet it was a horrible way to enda great fight. Refused to admit defeat. Broken hand or not.

Where I also agree is when he stated Fury did not come in at 277 to be a ballet dancer. I think Wilder knew early on- whenever they clinched-it followed leaning on him.

Stated Fury gained the weight with the intent of using it to lean on him, wear him out Wilder stated; He succeeded.
So the weight gain may have made Fury look a bit more vulernable, but the sacrfice in looking great, ensured Wilder would be so damn tired of all that jiggly fat on his back, his neck, he was tired as hell, that is why I think he fell with his eyes open. It wasn't just the punch, it was the fatigue from feeling that weight applied.


With that said, I have no doubt-IF Fury fights again/soon he will NOT come in at 277lbs.
I think that was the plan and it worked! He didnt undertrain, he calculated what it might do and Deontay said what Fury came out to do- he succeeded.

Tough watching Deontay flop around round after round. Where he gained my deepest respect- getting up, he lost a lot of that by refusing to concede.

If Deontay fights again that power will still be there, but I do wonder if he will ever be there mentally.
Meaning-IMO He knew he couldn't win after Fury got up twice, so that was fighting on heart. In the fire, he may just give up or go through the motions. I think that is a huge possibilithy based on how he reacted after the fight. Like a sore ass loser.

Sloppy ass fight. Bombs away. Little technique. Both down. 5x total made us overlook how unskilled they both looked at times.
That was because both men wanted the other OUTTA there!!! So I understand why both looked a little more flawed than usual.

[SlimTrae]

https://www.boxingscene.com/video-ti...wilder--161169


Tim Witherspoon conveys my thoughts well. The people weren't really looking for skill they were here looking for a winner. It was sloppy, but again not every boxing fan wants to see skills.
Tyson was the more skilled, but not even skill. Deontay just sloppy. But it was a great fight, not high in skills.

I totally agree with one exception- I think Fury knew he wanted to slop it up, just like against Klitschko he stunk it up, all holding and clinching, but this one was bombs and clinch, bomb and lay on him.

Exciting. But not a very skillful fight between two HW,s IMO like Holy-Bowe or Mercer-Lewis or even Norton-Holmes, those were high octane HW champs fighting hard- with enviable skill.
No skills were on display, but hey when youy get 5KDS! LOL! I guess it doesnt matter!

[Master]

I agree Slim in terms of skill level it is not up there with Holyfield v Bowe or even AJ v Wlad.

However Tyson Fury jab was an effective weapon in the fight and it set up his body work, uppercuts and right hooks. Fury managed the fight beautifully and it was a joy to watch. There was not that much leaning and mauling to spoil the fight.

Fury went in for the knockout and made the fight exciting when he could have just jabbed his way to victory at the end. Whilst Fury may not be shaped like an Adonis and be the most skilled boxer of all time, the man has heart and courage that should be applauded.

[TitoFan]

I have to focus on, and give credit to, the ref. To me he was the key to the fight not turning into a sloppy, wrestling affair. Fury did indeed plan to use his size and weight to tire Wilder out, and in a way it did. But Mora did (IMO) an admirable job, breaking them up as soon as they fell into a clinch. He (Mora) was working nonstop throughout the fight, doing his best to separate them and force some clean boxing. No... it wasn't Ali-Frazier III. But then again very few heavyweights of the modern age have been. Fighters are bigger than ever... and size has become as much of a weapon as boxing skill.

But for all the heart Wilder showed in the fight, it's not normal for a fighter of ANY weight to look gassed after a couple of rounds. Clearly the extra weight drained him of stamina. The extra weight was a strategy his camp employed to try something new... and it just didn't work. One of the commentators even said as much, alluding to the heavy weight training Wilder apparently incorporated. He said lifting weights isn't going to give you more stamina. Wilder did try to jab to the body repeatedly, apparently enticed by Fury's blubbery midsection. But let's face it... Fury is much too savvy and skilled to let that be effective.

Me... I'm still reeling a bit from the reign of Wladimir Klitschko who... albeit a dominant HW in his own right... pretty much ruined the division for me with his style of fighting. Helped along by a parade of scared opponents who scarcely put up a fight. The one fight that brought me back from that slumber was Joshua vs Klitschko. Knockdowns on both sides isn't a matter of skill (or lack thereof) for me. It's a matter of heart and shifting momentum. It's this "changing of the tide" that I love in any sport.

[Memphis]

Just got around to watching it. Good scrap. Two big men knocking lumps off one another. Brilliant.

Gawd bless him Wilder tried to be different but it was so telegraphed Fury saw it a mile off. The early, very early body attack at least had some thought behind it but it was awkwardly executed with no real end result. His success predictably came from the right hand and even when he was beaten up a bit he proved he's still dangerous. One more clean shot. Maybe, just maybe. He never gave up. to his credit. But he had the life knocked out of him.

Fury did as Fury does and proved once again that he's the most fluent most natural big man out there by a country mile. Usyk is more technically skilled. But there's no one as natural as Fury. Completely at one with who he is and what he does. Other than a lightning bolt, he'd have Wilder's number six days a week and twice on Sunday.

Funny old game init. The land of the giants. Where power conquers all. The two best out there in Fury and Usyk do it with natural fighting acumen and well oiled well drilled boxing technique. Both completely comfortable in their own skin. Both completely comfortable with the job at hand and just go out and do it.

On the other side of the fence you've got Joshua and now Wilder trying to be something they're not. Both fighters, both hitters. Joshua can hide from it a little better. Outside of Usyk and Fury he'd probably get away with it. He has. I think both of them have to have a look in the mirror and stop the nonsense.

Wilder looked broken in there. He should never be within a hundred miles of Fury again.