Tyson Fury v Deontay Wilder 3

[TitoFan]

I have to focus on, and give credit to, the ref. To me he was the key to the fight not turning into a sloppy, wrestling affair. Fury did indeed plan to use his size and weight to tire Wilder out, and in a way it did. But Mora did (IMO) an admirable job, breaking them up as soon as they fell into a clinch. He (Mora) was working nonstop throughout the fight, doing his best to separate them and force some clean boxing. No... it wasn't Ali-Frazier III. But then again very few heavyweights of the modern age have been. Fighters are bigger than ever... and size has become as much of a weapon as boxing skill.

But for all the heart Wilder showed in the fight, it's not normal for a fighter of ANY weight to look gassed after a couple of rounds. Clearly the extra weight drained him of stamina. The extra weight was a strategy his camp employed to try something new... and it just didn't work. One of the commentators even said as much, alluding to the heavy weight training Wilder apparently incorporated. He said lifting weights isn't going to give you more stamina. Wilder did try to jab to the body repeatedly, apparently enticed by Fury's blubbery midsection. But let's face it... Fury is much too savvy and skilled to let that be effective.

Me... I'm still reeling a bit from the reign of Wladimir Klitschko who... albeit a dominant HW in his own right... pretty much ruined the division for me with his style of fighting. Helped along by a parade of scared opponents who scarcely put up a fight. The one fight that brought me back from that slumber was Joshua vs Klitschko. Knockdowns on both sides isn't a matter of skill (or lack thereof) for me. It's a matter of heart and shifting momentum. It's this "changing of the tide" that I love in any sport.

[Memphis]

Just got around to watching it. Good scrap. Two big men knocking lumps off one another. Brilliant.

Gawd bless him Wilder tried to be different but it was so telegraphed Fury saw it a mile off. The early, very early body attack at least had some thought behind it but it was awkwardly executed with no real end result. His success predictably came from the right hand and even when he was beaten up a bit he proved he's still dangerous. One more clean shot. Maybe, just maybe. He never gave up. to his credit. But he had the life knocked out of him.

Fury did as Fury does and proved once again that he's the most fluent most natural big man out there by a country mile. Usyk is more technically skilled. But there's no one as natural as Fury. Completely at one with who he is and what he does. Other than a lightning bolt, he'd have Wilder's number six days a week and twice on Sunday.

Funny old game init. The land of the giants. Where power conquers all. The two best out there in Fury and Usyk do it with natural fighting acumen and well oiled well drilled boxing technique. Both completely comfortable in their own skin. Both completely comfortable with the job at hand and just go out and do it.

On the other side of the fence you've got Joshua and now Wilder trying to be something they're not. Both fighters, both hitters. Joshua can hide from it a little better. Outside of Usyk and Fury he'd probably get away with it. He has. I think both of them have to have a look in the mirror and stop the nonsense.

Wilder looked broken in there. He should never be within a hundred miles of Fury again.

[TIC]

what an over rated fight. rubbish

[mrbig1]

Wilder is done. Time to do something else. Fury is the HW champ and this is nobody out there who can beat him. No big money fights are awaiting him.

[Kirkland Laing]

That was an epic fight. Up there with any heavyweight fight I've seen.

Fury has had four title fights, all abroad and really won them all with three of them against probably the biggest puncher in heavyweight history. No British boxer has done anything comparable.

[Spicoli]

Real shame some fanboys are running with the 'he got a long count' and how Wilder was robbed. Robbed. Just delusional alternative universe thinking that. If anything I think that ref was near perfect and made to order in a fight with two massive steadfast wills and physicality. Not that we watch for the officials but more often than not we're ripping them new ones so change of pace. Sloppy not sloppy predictable or not definitely one of the most enthralling heavyweight scraps I've seen. So good on the rewatch I'm going old school doing a round at a time in slo-mo . Being bunkered down in the home for week or two helps lol. Crazy upside down sport this is at times. I've takin time to shat on both these guys and pop off since they came on the scene and grabbed headlines. Mostly Wilder and some of which stays the same..record thinness and classless in defeat mostly..but nothing but respect and appreciation for what he stood for and up against in the ropes going through that hell and throwing right into the fire. I do worry about his mental situation going forward. The furious fall and finale of knowing you've been bested thrice in rather convincing fashion and lasting effects of that punishment. Fury, just masterclass ring savvy and skill and does exactly what he says. Fans won Saturday night. Wonderful fight night.

[Master]

Deontay Wilder: American will not retire after second loss to Tyson Fury, says trainer Malik Scott

Heavyweight Deontay Wilder will not be quitting boxing after losing to Tyson Fury for a second time, says the American's lead trainer Malik Scott.

Wilder, 35, was knocked out in the 11th round by Fury in a thrilling WBC world championship fight in Las Vegas on Saturday.

"Deontay has set his family financially secure so he doesn't have to fight to make a living," Scott told iFL TV.

"But retiring is not in his plans at all and not something we've discussed."

Wilder and Fury contested a controversial draw in December 2018 before the Briton won the February 2020 rematch when Wilder's then-trainer Mark Breland threw the towel into the ring in the seventh round.

That move angered Wilder so much that he dismissed Breland and replaced him with Scott, a fighter he had defeated in 2014.

In the third Fury-Wilder bout, both men were knocked down - Fury twice in the fourth and Wilder in the third and 10th rounds before a third knockdown in the 11th saw the referee stop the fight.

Scott, 40, said there was not a moment when he considered ending the contest.

"Over the years of me knowing Deontay, he has always said throwing the towel in with a knockout artist like him wouldn't be tolerated," added Scott.

"It's something I respected. The last knockdown was the worst knockdown and the ref called it off.

"Deontay and Mark never had a relationship outside the gym, they never talked for more than five minutes on a phone call. Me and Deontay would never fall out and not speak again - our bond is too tight."

Wilder was world champion for more than five years from 2015 and has 42 wins, including 41 inside the distance, from 45 fights.

"He will be back in any form he wants to be," said Scott. "He's a big-time fighter and he doesn't belong down there with the other guys, he needs to be in high-level fights and main events.

"Deontay Wilder was great on Saturday, but Tyson Fury was even greater - it was a great night of boxing for the heavyweight division.

"You have to give Fury credit for having a good chin and getting up. Fury is a legend and one of the best in the heavyweight division in any era, and it's the same about Deontay."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/58875331

[Kirkland Laing]

Real shame some fanboys are running with the 'he got a long count' and how Wilder was robbed. Robbed. Just delusional alternative universe thinking that. If anything I think that ref was near perfect and made to order in a fight with two massive steadfast wills and physicality. Not that we watch for the officials but more often than not we're ripping them new ones so change of pace. Sloppy not sloppy predictable or not definitely one of the most enthralling heavyweight scraps I've seen. So good on the rewatch I'm going old school doing a round at a time in slo-mo . Being bunkered down in the home for week or two helps lol. Crazy upside down sport this is at times. I've takin time to shat on both these guys and pop off since they came on the scene and grabbed headlines. Mostly Wilder and some of which stays the same..record thinness and classless in defeat mostly..but nothing but respect and appreciation for what he stood for and up against in the ropes going through that hell and throwing right into the fire. I do worry about his mental situation going forward. The furious fall and finale of knowing you've been bested thrice in rather convincing fashion and lasting effects of that punishment. Fury, just masterclass ring savvy and skill and does exactly what he says. Fans won Saturday night. Wonderful fight night.

Wilder should retire but he won't. The people round him like Shelly Finkel are never going to advise him to retire, his corner are a bunch of yes men who won't pull him out of any situation no matter how bad because they know they'll get the boot. And Wilder was already borderline delusional taking the third fight anyway with all the excuses (apparently he brooke his right hand on Saturday night too according to his trainer) and the refusal to accept he just got his arse kicked in the second fight. Plus he has eight kids, probably more and more to come and one of them will cost millions in medical care over her lifetime. Endless kids and alimony payments, it's like Holyfield all over again. This is an unfortunate set of circumstances and he's not going to quit anytime soon.

He would have been better off letting Fury and Joshua fight and spending more time trying to improve his boxing. I don't think he would have made any significant improvements but the payday against the Joshua Fury winner would have been much bigger than a third Fury fight. He can have a break then a comeback fight and then fight the Fury-Joshua/Usyk winner. He's still the biggest name out there other than those three and earned a great deal in defeat with that performance.