Tyson Fury v Deontay Wilder 3

[mrbig1]

I'm kind of feeling that this era is complete now in many ways. What a change to a few weeks ago. We need Joshua to ko Usyk in rematch and give us the Wembley showdown.

Won't happen

The damage to Joshua has already been done. No one will pay fat money to see him fight. Fury stands alone as the HW champion of the world. I would not pay 5 dollars to see Usky fight.

[TitoFan]

I'd still like for Wilder and Joshua to meet somewhere down the line. No championships at stake, obviously. But so much anticipation went by the wayside before Fury came along, that I'd still like to see how that plays out.

Puncher vs. puncher.

I'd favor Wilder in that one.

[Kirkland Laing]

I'd still like for Wilder and Joshua to meet somewhere down the line. No championships at stake, obviously. But so much anticipation went by the wayside before Fury came along, that I'd still like to see how that plays out.

Puncher vs. puncher.

I'd favor Wilder in that one.

He's never going to be the same after Saturday night but he'll always have that right hand. He looks like his legs have gone after a few rounds but he can still knock people out with one punch and I don't think Joshua can take a punch as well as Fury. I'm sure it will happen at some point, it'll be great to watch.

[Master]

I'd still like for Wilder and Joshua to meet somewhere down the line. No championships at stake, obviously. But so much anticipation went by the wayside before Fury came along, that I'd still like to see how that plays out.

Puncher vs. puncher.

I'd favor Wilder in that one.

He's never going to be the same after Saturday night but he'll always have that right hand. He looks like his legs have gone after a few rounds but he can still knock people out with one punch and I don't think Joshua can take a punch as well as Fury. I'm sure it will happen at some point, it'll be great to watch.

AJ would never be able to take the punches Fury did against Wilder but if he landed half the punches Fury did against Wilder, AJ would knock out Wilder cold.

AJ v Wilder would be a shoot out that would not last 3 rounds, Hagler v Hearns of who lands first. I would favour AJ.

That was the original fight I wanted to see when both were undefeated champions for the undisputed title.

[Master]

Tyson Fury told epic Deontay Wilder fight "wasn't a boxing match"

Tyson Fury's win over Deontay Wilder "was not a boxing match" according to rival Oleksandr Usyk's promoter.

The Brit viciously knocked out Deontay Wilder in their trilogy bout on Saturday night, with many believing that he has cemented himself as the No.1 heavyweight in the world.

But Usyk's promoter Alexander Krassyuk has said that he was completely unimpressed by the performance and thinks that his man wouldn't have a problem with Fury in a potential fight.

"Fury looked fresh though he had some extra weight on his body," Krassyuk said in an interview with The Sun.

"He performed better movements and his conditioning was much better.

"But I didn’t like the way he won because Wilder, let’s say, was ‘dead’ after the fourth round.

"It took Fury more than six rounds to finish the fight so he didn’t try to box but tried to knock him out, to severely damage him."

And Krassyuk believes that the fight was "not a boxing match", echoing the sentiments of hall of fame promoter Barry Hearn who said it was similar to a "tear-up outside a pub".

"It definitely wasn’t a boxing match," he continued. "But the thing that I noticed is, exactly what I just mentioned, it was not a boxing match but it was a fight where two warriors came into the ring fighting and were fighting to the death.

"What I can say is none of them impressed me with their boxing. Both guys had big hearts, both were focused on the victory.

"Both were down more than once."

However, he did praise the excitement of the bout, having provided analysis on Ukrainian television, where Fury was dropped twice and Wilder was put down three times before it was called off.

Krassyuk admitted that he had picked Wilder to stop Fury, but says it wasn't a well-educated opinion.

"My understanding was that Fury was going to lose on Saturday night," he explained. "I thought he will get knocked out by Wilder. It wasn’t an analytical thought.

"I’ve been in boxing for 16 years, it was just another intuition that said Fury has very high chances to lose against Wilder.

"Of course he didn’t lose. I was in the studio for the commentary. That was a spectacular performance, absolutely spectacular.

"And the fans, I’m sure, every and each fans no matter whose fan either Joshua’s or Fury’s or Wilder’s, everyone enjoyed the fight because it was a real fight."

And the Ukrainian promoter feels that with the technical abilities showed by both men, Usyk wouldn't face too many problems in a prospective bout.

"Coming back to Usyk, both guys – Wilder and Fury – in the shape they performed in the fight are a sweet dessert for Usyk because none of them performed with boxing skills," he added.

"If Usyk shows his technique, his style of technique I don’t think either Fury or Wilder can do anything serious to Usyk."

Krassyuk continued to say that he felt Wilder's performance was "really awful", partly to do with his weight, which was a career-heaviest of 238 lbs.

Fury also tipped the scales at a sky-high weight of 277 lbs, and even admitted that he wanted to get to 300 lbs.

"He looked awful, really, really awful because he couldn't make it with his body," Krassyuk continued.

"He didn't get used to that extra weight and he didn't feel good.

"In the fourth round he was already done and survived the rest of the fight till near the end."

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/boxi...cid=entnewsntp

[SlimTrae]

Reading the above it sounds like Fury totally fooled them. It isn't as if one day Fury forgot how to box. He knew what he was doing when he gained weight and Deontay pointed it out as well, Hell even Lennox Lewis agreed the weight gain was a strategy used effectively.

Plus the power of Wilder can easily change his rival's fightplan.

For some reason I think about the 1st round of Meldrick Taylor vs Buddy McGirt



"Meldrick is flailing away this is a brawl This goes against all the tactical preperations that both camps....
..all that planning just went out the window"

..about 13 minutes in....if ya just watch the 1st round, one can see 2 well schooled boxers throwing bombs from the canvas upward LOL!
Same with Pryor vs Arguello - nothing technical about their 1st round, They turned it into a back-alley brawl. Round 2 Holy-Bowe I--i think is when they started to say to hell with skills.

Well just imagine getting dropped by Wilder or Fury--trying to clear one's head...and they are marching at you! I think Usyk will learn -if he faces Fury..he won't have a big man get hit and run to the ropes, and stick his tongue out- like that helps.

As I stated this wasn't a technical fight, but sometimes a fighter can force their rival to change the game, backup plan or improvise.
Fury and Wilder don't like each other and that was the nail in the technical coffin. They wanted to hurt each other. This was the championship version of Foreman-Lyle!!!!
I hope Team Usyk isn't silly enough to think Fury will walk in 347lbs looking to lean on a mobile southpaw with a sturdy chin.


This POV from ringside is the best- final KD is on his side.

[Master]

Deontay Wilder FINALLY congratulates Tyson Fury on epic trilogy win as Bronze Bomber breaks silence in classy message

DEONTAY WILDER has FINALLY praised Tyson Fury for his brilliant trilogy win.

Fury called the American an "idiot" and a "sore loser" when he was snubbed by his great rival following last weekend's Las Vegas thriller.

Wilder, 35, went quiet after losing through an 11th-round knockout as he began his recovery from a broken hand with question marks over where his boxing career goes next.

But the Bronze Bomber finally broke his silence with a classy message on Instagram on Thursday thanking God, his team, fans and Fury for 'memories that will last forever'.

The Gypsy King shared the post with a handshake emoji and said: "The greatest trilogy of all time."

Wilder uploaded a picture in his red gown ahead of the showdown and wrote: "Wow, what a hell of a night!

"I would like to first and foremost thank God for allowing me to give the world another part of me that’s driven with passion and determination.

"I would like to thank my team and my fans for sticking by my side through this long process.

"I would be lying if I said that I wasn’t disappointed in the outcome but after reflecting on my journey, I now see that what God wanted me to experience is far greater than what I expected to happen.

"We didn’t get the win but a wise man once said the victories are within the lessons. I’ve learned that sometimes you have to lose to win.

"Although, I wanted the win I enjoyed seeing the fans win even more.

"Hopefully, I proved that I am a true Warrior and a true King in this sport.

"Hopefully, WE proved that no matter how hard you get hit with trials and tribulations you can always pick yourself up to live and fight again for what you believe in.

"Last but not least I would like to congratulate @gypsyking101 for his victory and thank you for the great historical memories that will last forever."

Wilder had restored so much of his reputation as he floored Fury twice before succumbing late on in Saturday's instant classic, after accusing his rival of cheating his way to the February 2020 win.

But the battered and bruised American appeared to blow his chance to turn the iconic rivalry into a fantastic fighting friendship with his conduct in the ring afterwards as Fury hit out at him for not congratulating his conqueror.

But Wilder's co-manager Shelly Finkel insisted the ex-champion in fact DOES respect Fury, and would be open to accepting the peace offering now.

Finkel told SunSport: “Him and I have spoke about that and he does (respect Fury).

“I think his mind wasn’t really there, I think if Deontay saw Fury now he would give him a big embrace."

There were fears Wilder would retire from boxing after the savage battle, where he suffered numerous injuries, including the fractured hand, knuckle and finger which will be operated on next week.

But Finkel has confirmed the 42-2-1 brawler will be back next in late April or May - and is eyeing Anthony Joshua next.

Wilder has been denied a quick ring return after receiving a six-month ban by medics.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/16424...ury-statement/