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    Default Re: Canelo Alvarez v Caleb Plant - bring on undisputed



    "ANOTHER ONE !" ..............As DJ Khaled says

    So Canelo becomes undisputed within 1 year.

    And against 3 undefeated fighters

    Very-Very impressive

    Last year most people on here said the toughest opponents that Canelo would face and lose to were Saunders or Plant. Now that he smoked both of them people say they were C class fighters and no good.

    Now Plant and a few months ago and Josh Kelly Vs David Avenesyan - This was another example of a FAILED Philly shell defense. Money's style doesn't work without counters guys. Only Floyd could do it cause he was fast AF with quick cat like reflexes.

    Canelo DGAF about being out boxed by anyone; he just sticks to the plan and listens to Reynoso

    I'm not accusing Canelo of anything but I do think it's more than interesting how a guy can move to 154 and look even stronger. He's gone from not having the power to beat Matthew Hatton to knocking out super middle weights and breaking arms of light heavyweights.



    Or maybe he didnt have the man strength when he fought Hatton and Hatton had never been stopped until he met the then 20 year old Canelo.
    Last edited by Denilson3.0; 11-07-2021 at 03:11 PM.

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    Default Re: Canelo Alvarez v Caleb Plant - bring on undisputed

    Quote Originally Posted by Denilson3.0 View Post


    "ANOTHER ONE !" ..............As DJ Khaled says

    So Canelo becomes undisputed within 1 year.

    And against 3 undefeated fighters

    Very-Very impressive

    Last year most people on here said the toughest opponents that Canelo would face and lose to were Saunders or Plant. Now that he smoked both of them people say they were C class fighters and no good.

    Now Plant and a few months ago and Josh Kelly Vs David Avenesyan - This was another example of a FAILED Philly shell defense. Money's style doesn't work without counters guys. Only Floyd could do it cause he was fast AF with quick cat like reflexes.

    Canelo DGAF about being out boxed by anyone; he just sticks to the plan and listens to Reynoso

    I'm not accusing Canelo of anything but I do think it's more than interesting how a guy can move to 154 and look even stronger. He's gone from not having the power to beat Matthew Hatton to knocking out super middle weights and breaking arms of light heavyweights.



    Or maybe he didnt have the man strength when he fought Hatton and Hatton had never been stopped until he met the then 20 year old Canelo.
    No one aside from the fake media called Saunders and Plant as any real tests to Canelo. Where do these people come from who are "calling" these fights? Everyone wants Canelo to fight the Charlo's or Andrade... That and they want, by some fantasy, for Andre Ward to come out of retirement.
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    Default Re: Canelo Alvarez v Caleb Plant - bring on undisputed

    Quote Originally Posted by ykdadamaja View Post

    No one aside from the fake media called Saunders and Plant as any real tests to Canelo. Where do these people come from who are "calling" these fights? Everyone wants Canelo to fight the Charlo's or Andrade... That and they want, by some fantasy, for Andre Ward to come out of retirement.

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    I've only been calling Plant a hyped-up bum dredged up to give Canelo an easy win since Day One.

    So I have NO IDEA in hell where this came from.


    Quote Originally Posted by Denilson3.0 View Post


    Last year most people on here said the toughest opponents that Canelo would face and lose to were Saunders or Plant. Now that he smoked both of them people say they were C class fighters and no good.



    Maybe I should've mentioned it a million more times.

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    Default Re: Canelo Alvarez v Caleb Plant - bring on undisputed

    Quote Originally Posted by ykdadamaja View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Denilson3.0 View Post


    "ANOTHER ONE !" ..............As DJ Khaled says

    So Canelo becomes undisputed within 1 year.

    And against 3 undefeated fighters

    Very-Very impressive

    Last year most people on here said the toughest opponents that Canelo would face and lose to were Saunders or Plant. Now that he smoked both of them people say they were C class fighters and no good.

    Now Plant and a few months ago and Josh Kelly Vs David Avenesyan - This was another example of a FAILED Philly shell defense. Money's style doesn't work without counters guys. Only Floyd could do it cause he was fast AF with quick cat like reflexes.

    Canelo DGAF about being out boxed by anyone; he just sticks to the plan and listens to Reynoso

    I'm not accusing Canelo of anything but I do think it's more than interesting how a guy can move to 154 and look even stronger. He's gone from not having the power to beat Matthew Hatton to knocking out super middle weights and breaking arms of light heavyweights.



    Or maybe he didnt have the man strength when he fought Hatton and Hatton had never been stopped until he met the then 20 year old Canelo.
    No one aside from the fake media called Saunders and Plant as any real tests to Canelo. Where do these people come from who are "calling" these fights? Everyone wants Canelo to fight the Charlo's or Andrade... That and they want, by some fantasy, for Andre Ward to come out of retirement.
    jermall & demetrius have done nothing at one sixty eight. andre would get raped. canelo should tuned up against david b in may before moving to one seventy five
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    Default Re: Canelo Alvarez v Caleb Plant - bring on undisputed

    I watched the 12minute highlight reel. Canelo walked him down, cut the ring off. Plant showed some nice jabs, but it seemed like at anytime- Canelo could have put his foot on the gas tank as Caleb made it clear he prefferred to back away & counter. Saw a round where Canelo went to the ropes (seemed like on his own) and he still was dominant.


    Plant is a good boxer, but I think this shows how dominant Alvaraz has become. He can fight backing up, he can take the fight to his foe.


    as far as the board's take...well I, the self-professed resident researcher.. @Spicoli has the most ground covered on Plant. His threads IMO were clear
    1. Plant is a damn good boxer.
    2. Just don't think he is in Canelo's league.

    At one point he gave credit to Plant for wanting Canelo so soon- but Spicoli questioned where this confidence comes from.

    Last- I didn't care for Plant's response the next day, he didnt even mention Canelo's name. Yeah he can come back...so as long as Canelo aint around.


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    Default Re: Canelo Alvarez v Caleb Plant - bring on undisputed

    Quote Originally Posted by TIC View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ykdadamaja View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Denilson3.0 View Post


    "ANOTHER ONE !" ..............As DJ Khaled says

    So Canelo becomes undisputed within 1 year.

    And against 3 undefeated fighters

    Very-Very impressive

    Last year most people on here said the toughest opponents that Canelo would face and lose to were Saunders or Plant. Now that he smoked both of them people say they were C class fighters and no good.

    Now Plant and a few months ago and Josh Kelly Vs David Avenesyan - This was another example of a FAILED Philly shell defense. Money's style doesn't work without counters guys. Only Floyd could do it cause he was fast AF with quick cat like reflexes.

    Canelo DGAF about being out boxed by anyone; he just sticks to the plan and listens to Reynoso

    I'm not accusing Canelo of anything but I do think it's more than interesting how a guy can move to 154 and look even stronger. He's gone from not having the power to beat Matthew Hatton to knocking out super middle weights and breaking arms of light heavyweights.



    Or maybe he didnt have the man strength when he fought Hatton and Hatton had never been stopped until he met the then 20 year old Canelo.
    No one aside from the fake media called Saunders and Plant as any real tests to Canelo. Where do these people come from who are "calling" these fights? Everyone wants Canelo to fight the Charlo's or Andrade... That and they want, by some fantasy, for Andre Ward to come out of retirement.
    jermall & demetrius have done nothing at one sixty eight. andre would get raped. canelo should tuned up against david b in may before moving to one seventy five
    Has there been a policy shift from Team Canelo to avoid black fighters ? Terence Crawford thinks so .

    I'm not saying it because Mayweather is slick and that was his only loss bcoz we can all point to a black fighter that isn't slick.



    But Canelo has only fought one black fighter in his last 13 fights (Danny Jacobs) and thing I don't see Charlo or Andrade as great fighters.

    When you look at past great black amd white fighters of recent around his weight.

    Canelo beats RJJ (I could be wrong on this one) but this looks like a JCC - Meldrick Taylor fight. Where RJJ is boxing Nelo's ears but eventually Canelo ends up nailing him. Hopkins and Andre Ward I see Canelo outworking them to a UD. Hopkins and Ward were unathletic safety first fighters and that'd mean they wouldn't rack up enough points to get the decision. Nigel Benn ? To strong for him. Eubank ? More chance than Ben but still go Canelo. Froch ? Easy work.

    There are only two fighters of recent history I don't see Canelo beating

    James Toney and Joe Calzaghe

    Joe Calzaghe would be too fast and quick and he had a good chin and James Toney beats Canelo (Which shows how styles makes fights because I see RJJ always beatiing Toney even though I think Nelo beats RJJ) Toney had a granite chin and IMO better skills than Nelo.
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    Default Re: Canelo Alvarez v Caleb Plant - bring on undisputed

    No body beats Roy Jones Jnr. He does not lose a second of a minute of a round of the fight against Canelo.

    You said Canelo could not knock out light middle weights and now suddenly he is stopping supermiddles and light heavyweights. Something is not right.
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    Default Re: Canelo Alvarez v Caleb Plant - bring on undisputed

    So Canelo gets beat by a Welterweight (albeit an exceptional one.), but he beats nearly every SMW In history? Nah.
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    Default Re: Canelo Alvarez v Caleb Plant - bring on undisputed

    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
    So Canelo gets beat by a Welterweight (albeit an exceptional one.), but he beats nearly every SMW In history? Nah.
    Again. You could be right for sure. I'm normally quite certain on my opinions but saying Canelo beats RJJ and other past great super middle weights, not certain at all but even the Mayweather fight was very competitive. YouTube the fight. Mayweather didn't run him out the ring as what ppl think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    No body beats Roy Jones Jnr. He does not lose a second of a minute of a round of the fight against Canelo.
    You know what ? You could very well be right

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    Default Re: Canelo Alvarez v Caleb Plant - bring on undisputed

    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    No body beats Roy Jones Jnr. He does not lose a second of a minute of a round of the fight against Canelo.

    You said Canelo could not knock out light middle weights and now suddenly he is stopping supermiddles and light heavyweights. Something is not right.
    I agree. Prime RJJ set the trend for punchstats rearing zero-3 times hit per round!


    However on the 2nd sentence- something's not right that Canelo sparks the heavier fighters is how I feel about a guy from the Phillipines...they both have something in common-
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    Default Re: Canelo Alvarez v Caleb Plant - bring on undisputed

    I edited the previous as Pac was KO'ing boxers since he began. So I should correct myself & state he somehow kept his power as he went up in weight whereas Canelo was similar to that of Margarito- he, gained power as he went up.
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