Who’s had the vaccine ? Side effects ?

[TitoFan]

In all seriousness, (and without wanting to get into it with anybody)... it seems the arguments against the vaccine have lost traction since early in the year.

Obviously people still have the right to do whatever they want, albeit mostly guided by dubious sources.

But the fact of the matter is that most if not all of the anti-vax arguments have long since been debunked. Vaccines have been with us since long before any of us were born. Some of us were vaccinated as children for a host of diseases that thankfully have all but disappeared. The feared side effects have failed to materialize on the vast majority of people. The minor side effects many of us have gotten, we were told about before getting the shots. Mild fevers, arm pain, nothing that you wouldn't expect from a shot in the arm.

I continue to blame social media for the whole mess regarding anti-vaxxers. Nowadays anyone with a Facebook or Twitter account is an "expert." That's just not right. High profile people who have railed against the vaccines always have holes in their background. Most have no idea what the words "research" or "science" mean.

Sure... there's fear in some people to getting something injected into them. We can't be insensitive to those. Especially those with a genuine health-related fear. There's probably one or two in every family that hesitates (or refuses) to get vaccinated for fear of resulting health issues. Hell... if I was really convinced something was going to harm me... I probably would refuse to get injected also. But again, I had who knows how many vaccines as a child... and am still here.

Going back to what I've seen, it seems anti-vax sentiment is on the decline. Hopefully enough people will continue changing their minds to make a difference.

[SlimTrae]

In all seriousness, (and without wanting to get into it with anybody)... it seems the arguments against the vaccine have lost traction since early in the year.

Obviously people still have the right to do whatever they want, albeit mostly guided by dubious sources.

But the fact of the matter is that most if not all of the anti-vax arguments have long since been debunked. Vaccines have been with us since long before any of us were born. Some of us were vaccinated as children for a host of diseases that thankfully have all but disappeared. The feared side effects have failed to materialize on the vast majority of people. The minor side effects many of us have gotten, we were told about before getting the shots. Mild fevers, arm pain, nothing that you wouldn't expect from a shot in the arm.

I continue to blame social media for the whole mess regarding anti-vaxxers. Nowadays anyone with a Facebook or Twitter account is an "expert." That's just not right. High profile people who have railed against the vaccines always have holes in their background. Most have no idea what the words "research" or "science" mean.

Sure... there's fear in some people to getting something injected into them. We can't be insensitive to those. Especially those with a genuine health-related fear. There's probably one or two in every family that hesitates (or refuses) to get vaccinated for fear of resulting health issues. Hell... if I was really convinced something was going to harm me... I probably would refuse to get injected also. But again, I had who knows how many vaccines as a child... and am still here.

Going back to what I've seen, it seems anti-vax sentiment is on the decline. Hopefully enough people will continue changing their minds to make a difference.

Not enough to change their (trump worshippers) minds, even as 7 of their toptalk show hosts have died---while deriding the shot, Worse imo is that their followers (the few who did a 180) and implored- Get the vac? I am sure you have seen, they lost their audience- so had they lived...it would have allowed them to see how hardened their audience is.

Several of their hollering rightwing preachers have caught it and died...they too hardened their congregation to the point of density.
And seeing the recent infected Dana White...
https://www.cbssports.com/mma/news/u...lts-joe-rogan/


The way the story goes is typical; He caught it because the virus is fake.
He is getting over the fake virus because of home remedies.
That is exactly what they are pushing on Dana...the virus is fake, the vaccine is satanic , but the home remedies to a fake virus is real.
No way to talk to that kind of mindset.

I am a believer in home remedies-BUT provided one has maintained a healthy immune system by eating to live...as opposed of living to eat. No preexisitng conditions or else it kinda needs help, maybe a vaccination shot?


Here is my argument- had this occurred under Obama or began under Biden..I am 100% sure this would;ve been reason to inject, God, bible and curse of the liberal impacting all of America.
But it happened under Drumpf. So they take all sides just to say they alone are correct.
Virus? Fake
Vaccine? From the Devil, George Soros & Dr. Fauci


The Timeline of Donnie catching it...appeared his team lied and everyone who caught the virus (government & media) were around him...yet it took 3 days
3 days to tell them he was infected.

When it occurred, a liberal show DavidPakman kept talking about how bad Don looked- I didnt see it then I thought he was just finding stuff wrong for the sake of it, but based on the new revelation...that was EXACTLY when he came down with it!

https://news.yahoo.com/trump-tested-...ycsrp_catchall


1. Former President Donald Trump tested positive for COVID-19 a day before a White House event with Gold Star military families that he later publicly blamed for infecting him


2. his initial positive test result was not disclosed to debate organizers or to the public.


3. Trump denied having COVID-19 before the first debate.


4.Trump saying that "a test revealed" he did not have COVID-19 does not, however, disprove Meadows' recounting of him initially testing positive.



Americans who follow the above- will never see things clearly -they see it partisan wise.

[TIC]

[Master]

Omicron variant is far more contagious and I know a lot more people who have had covid 19 now. Just because you have the vaccine does not mean you can not catch it.

[TIC]

Omicron variant is far more contagious and I know a lot more people who have had covid 19 now. Just because you have the vaccine does not mean you can not catch it.

how do you know omicron is a virus caught from outside the body through the air or off surfaces? how do you know it's contagious? you know people who believe what they have been told & you in turn believe what they have told you. how do you know you can catch it? by catch i assume you mean through the air or off surfaces from outside the body. can you tell me how you know that to be true

[TIC]

Omicron variant is far more contagious and I know a lot more people who have had covid 19 now. Just because you have the vaccine does not mean you can not catch it.

why did you get the vaccine?

[TitoFan]

Again... not wanting to get into it with anybody, but certain things should be considered.

1. Symptomatology - It's been 2 full years of the virus now. Plenty of time to have collected eons upon eons of data from people sharing the same symptoms in order to draw the necessary conclusions regarding the existence of the virus.
2. History of vaccines - It's not a new technology. Vaccines are over 100 years old. Difference is... we didn't have social media "experts" or influencers back then. So people got the vaccines and diseases were put under control. Today we're at a distinct disadvantage.
3. Personal experiences - At this point many if not most people have either had COVID or known someone who did. They've experienced the symptoms... they've been able to distinguish between having and not having the vaccine (and its effect).

Vaccines in the past provided cures and stopped epidemics and pandemics. But while technology has advanced in the past 100 years... people have honestly become more stupid.

[TIC]

Again... not wanting to get into it with anybody, but certain things should be considered.

1. Symptomatology - It's been 2 full years of the virus now. Plenty of time to have collected eons upon eons of data from people sharing the same symptoms in order to draw the necessary conclusions regarding the existence of the virus.
2. History of vaccines - It's not a new technology. Vaccines are over 100 years old. Difference is... we didn't have social media "experts" or influencers back then. So people got the vaccines and diseases were put under control. Today we're at a distinct disadvantage.
3. Personal experiences - At this point many if not most people have either had COVID or known someone who did. They've experienced the symptoms... they've been able to distinguish between having and not having the vaccine (and its effect).

Vaccines in the past provided cures and stopped epidemics and pandemics. But while technology has advanced in the past 100 years... people have honestly become more stupid.

correlation is not proof of causation. the alleged symptoms are numerous & again are not proof of you knowing the virus exists. one hundred years could be considered young in regards to mankind. people have been told they had convid & known someone who was told they did. they may have experienced symptoms but that is not proof of the cause of those symptoms. i'm only interested in what you know to be true, not what you believe. people have become more stupid because they prefer to believe something rather than know it to be true & they prefer their interpretation of something rather than proving that to be true