How good was Deontay Wilder?

[SlimTrae]

HW division has always been the most suspect.

Let's Take Foreman as mentioned- This is a guy whose mental makeup-broke down. After Ali he was suspect- & we are not talking the fast fleeing Clay, rather the dude who invented laying on the ropes as some scientific accomplishment.

When Lyle dropped him again and again- While a powerful puncher- I can't say his right is more lethal than Wilder's. So if Ron dropped Lyle- as Cosell stated "This isnt artistic, this is slugging...the way the people want it"

More than likely Wilder drops George too. Does he outbox him the way Jimmy Young did that made him retire? Oh no! But It is more than likely if Wilder catches Young he drops him. And since Shavers had to land that garage sale righthand.. not sure it lands on a guy as tall as Wilder. And I have yet to see a sloppier puncher past 5 rounds than Ernie Shavers.

I think Tim Witherspoon that fought Holmes, dusts Wilder.
The Witherspoon that fought Bonecrusher 2nd time out? Gets laid out...but I truly think the Bonecrusher that laid out Witherspoon 2nd time around KO's Wilder.


The greatest so called of the 1970s & early 80s IMO wouldnt be that tough for Wilder. But the gatekeepers I think would have been disasterous for him.
He beats Shavers, Lyle, maybe a come from behind KO after Jimmy Young boxes perfect for 9 1/2 rounds LOL!
Wilder possibly loses to Tex Cobb. Cob withstands all punishment- Wilder proved he can only take so much.

[TitoFan]

HW division has always been the most suspect.

Let's Take Foreman as mentioned- This is a guy whose mental makeup-broke down. After Ali he was suspect- & we are not talking the fast fleeing Clay, rather the dude who invented laying on the ropes as some scientific accomplishment.

When Lyle dropped him again and again- While a powerful puncher- I can't say his right is more lethal than Wilder's. So if Ron dropped Lyle- as Cosell stated "This isnt artistic, this is slugging...the way the people want it"

More than likely Wilder drops George too. Does he outbox him the way Jimmy Young did that made him retire? Oh no! But It is more than likely if Wilder catches Young he drops him. And since Shavers had to land that garage sale righthand.. not sure it lands on a guy as tall as Wilder. And I have yet to see a sloppier puncher past 5 rounds than Ernie Shavers.

I think Tim Witherspoon that fought Holmes, dusts Wilder.
The Witherspoon that fought Bonecrusher 2nd time out? Gets laid out...but I truly think the Bonecrusher that laid out Witherspoon 2nd time around KO's Wilder.


The greatest so called of the 1970s & early 80s IMO wouldnt be that tough for Wilder. But the gatekeepers I think would have been disasterous for him.
He beats Shavers, Lyle, maybe a come from behind KO after Jimmy Young boxes perfect for 9 1/2 rounds LOL!
Wilder possibly loses to Tex Cobb. Cob withstands all punishment- Wilder proved he can only take so much.

I was sort of going along... until Tex Cobb.

Tex Cobb?? Really?

Yes... Cobb was beaten from pillar to post by much superior boxers, such as Larry Holmes. Cobb's main line of defense was his face, blocking all those shots.

But let's not lose perspective.

None of Cobb's losses were to "one-punch erasers." And... he DID have one KO loss on his record, so it's not like he was never knocked out.

No. Wilder could very easily do a "Dominic Breazeale" on the brave Tex Cobb.

[SlimTrae]

HW division has always been the most suspect.

Let's Take Foreman as mentioned- This is a guy whose mental makeup-broke down. After Ali he was suspect- & we are not talking the fast fleeing Clay, rather the dude who invented laying on the ropes as some scientific accomplishment.

When Lyle dropped him again and again- While a powerful puncher- I can't say his right is more lethal than Wilder's. So if Ron dropped Lyle- as Cosell stated "This isnt artistic, this is slugging...the way the people want it"

More than likely Wilder drops George too. Does he outbox him the way Jimmy Young did that made him retire? Oh no! But It is more than likely if Wilder catches Young he drops him. And since Shavers had to land that garage sale righthand.. not sure it lands on a guy as tall as Wilder. And I have yet to see a sloppier puncher past 5 rounds than Ernie Shavers.

I think Tim Witherspoon that fought Holmes, dusts Wilder.
The Witherspoon that fought Bonecrusher 2nd time out? Gets laid out...but I truly think the Bonecrusher that laid out Witherspoon 2nd time around KO's Wilder.


The greatest so called of the 1970s & early 80s IMO wouldnt be that tough for Wilder. But the gatekeepers I think would have been disasterous for him.
He beats Shavers, Lyle, maybe a come from behind KO after Jimmy Young boxes perfect for 9 1/2 rounds LOL!
Wilder possibly loses to Tex Cobb. Cob withstands all punishment- Wilder proved he can only take so much.

I was sort of going along... until Tex Cobb.

Tex Cobb?? Really?

Yes... Cobb was beaten from pillar to post by much superior boxers, such as Larry Holmes. Cobb's main line of defense was his face, blocking all those shots.

But let's not lose perspective.

None of Cobb's losses were to "one-punch erasers." And... he DID have one KO loss on his record, so it's not like he was never knocked out.

No. Wilder could very easily do a "Dominic Breazeale" on the brave Tex Cobb.

OK! I was going by a single fight- Cob over Shavers. Without that example..yeah the most one can do is...kind of go along with what I said!

[Spicoli]

I give Cobb a pass on the solo ko loss..he wasn't getting one punch erased by anyone. Fair to say around the time he was one foot out the door of boxing while kicking into and balancing a successful movie and TV career. Wilder can't balance himself on two feet . And lest we forget how badly hurt he was with the heavy hands of Molina and Ortiz. Ah love the hypotheticals D.

[Ron Swanson]

A big punch and long levers to deliver that punch making him dangerous. Skill wise he is amongst the worst to ever make it to the top.

[SlimTrae]

A big punch and long levers to deliver that punch making him dangerous. Skill wise he is amongst the worst to ever make it to the top.

And to have stayed on top for 1/2 decade gives us an idea on the affairs of the HW division. Unless one is blessed with talent AND hones their skills.
One punch can erase everything.


https://www.ringtv.com/631720-former...at-retirement/
FORMER WBC HEAVYWEIGHT TITLEHOLDER DEONTAY WILDER HINTS AT RETIREMENT



https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...-b1971886.html
Deontay Wilder hints at retirement from boxing after Tyson Fury defeat

[Master]

'GREAT EVENT' Deontay Wilder tipped to face Andy Ruiz in blockbuster Mexico City fight a week after teasing retirement

DEONTAY WILDER has been tipped to take part in a 'wonderful' showdown with Andy Ruiz Jr in Mexico City.

A clash with the former unified heavyweight champion is understood to be on the table for the Bronze Bomber following his brutal 11th-round KO defeat to Tyson Fury in October.

And WBC president Mauricio Sulaiman believes the fight would be the perfect bout to mark the return of big-time boxing to The City of Palaces.

He said: "[That fight] would be wonderful, and it is consistent with what the plans are for Mexico City [to secure big boxing events].

"We have been looking to return a great event to our capital.

"There have always been great fights [in Mexico City], but we have had many years without having a great event in Mexico City and yes indeed, Andy Ruiz, [a fight against Wilder] would be wonderful.

“The Wilder-Ruiz fight is perhaps the most interesting non-title fight right now [at heavyweight].

"Wilder is an explosive boxer, Andy Ruiz is a Mexican fighter, having achieved one of the great upsets in the history of heavyweight boxing and the great traction he has with Mexican fans is great, I would love to see him here in Mexico."

Mexico's first heavyweight champion Ruiz Jr is champing at the bit to share the ring with the former WBC king, recently telling Brian Custer: “I think that would be an amazing fight, me against Deontay Wilder.

“We’re both a part of the same team you know. I wouldn’t mind getting into the ring with him. I feel like I can beat him. We gotta get it on.”

Wilder, 36, is still processing his devastating defeat in his trilogy fight with Fury and recently admitted he could hang up his gloves.

He told comedian Kevin Hart: “It’s mixed feelings because ultimately I have accomplished all my goals in this sport. I told my daughter when she was one that I’d be a champion and I’d be able to support her beyond her belief.

“I’ve done that. There’s a lot of things that I’ve accomplished that I feel I have to prove to anyone because I’ve already proven [myself].

“Should I push forward? Should I give it a go one more time?

"Or should I just retire and focus on the other things that I already have, other things that I want to get into?”

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/17069...dy-ruiz-fight/