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It's tough to even know where to start with this one. "Liberties and freedoms." Well... speaking for myself, I honestly have not had any discernible liberties or freedoms "chipped away" that I know of. And since it's MY perception that counts regarding MY liberties... that point isn't even up for debate.

"Staged weather crisis"... "weather manipulation." Wow. You're really diving deep into the Conspiracy Theory pool now, eh? Let's just say for a moment that mankind COULD conjure up tsunamis, destructive earthquakes, and (OMG)... hurricanes. To what end? Who's behind this maniacal weather manipulation? What are they trying to accomplish? How do they target the victims of say... a major hurricane? Damn.

You "doubt these so called natural disasters will be natural"... so you must have some theory about how exactly does one conjure up and use a major hurricane or a tsunami as a weapon and direct it toward a desired target. Double damn.

Food shortages... yeah. I think everyone understands that these can result from political forces and manipulation, as well as major climactic events. So I'll give you that one.

But back to the COVID "scam". Let's go on your premise that COVID never existed and was just a globally colossal scam. A scam, mind you... that required the unprecedented coordination of governments around the world. A "pulling of the wool over our eyes" of EPIC proportions, complete with fake death numbers... fake scientific data PURPOSELY disseminated by many thousands of corrupt health professionals in a PERFECTLY choreographed song and dance that fooled the entire world. Damn... it hurts me even to write these words. But I'll go along with your wild beliefs just to get to my point.

Let's say it's ALL BEEN FAKE.

You said this: "the current scam is crumbling & there must be a change of course & it is probably being done already & will probably ramp up, intentionally, on purpose, to create more chaos, more crisis, more disorder, because that's how people are controlled"

So what "chaos and disorder" was caused by COVID that must now be furthered by this supposedly "new" scam?

"Because that's how people are controlled..." I see. But again... I continue to live my life as usual. I got sick in November of 2020, with the exact same symptoms as those always described for COVID. But that's besides the point. Whether I had COVID or not (according to you)... I got sick. That much is again not up for debate. At some point I got my vaccines. So did the rest of my family. We're all doing fine, thank you. I go where I want... whenever I want... however I want... and my liberties and freedoms have not been curtailed. Again... the judge of that is ME.

So...
peoples freedoms & liberties have been stripped away. just because you haven't been affected doesn't mean others haven't. i personally know people that have lost businesses because of restrictions & lockdowns. i also know people that have had their travel restricted or healthcare restricted. i know nurses that have lost their jobs because they refused to get a vaccine. it hasn't affected me because i live like a free man & do not comply to another persons orders but other people have not been so lucky. but it has created black free markets that have been operating outside the system. weather manipulation has been around for years. i actually worked for a company over here after i left the service that did cloud seeding. we worked with people from around the world on different weather projects. but that is my own experience. you will have to investigate for yourself. it is admitted that america manipulated the weather in the vietnam war. i've heard about tesla's earth quake machine claims. to what end you ask. to keep people in fear. people who are afraid are easily controlled. i see a digital currency being introduced that can track every transaction you make. maybe the qr code tracking system is tweaked & stays in place. i know we are already tracked by our phones & credit cards but cash & not taking your phone out with you makes that harder to do. your freedoms have been chipped away over many years. just look at what flying internationally before nine eleven was like to now. hope you had taken a trip before then & after & can compare the difference. over here most of our guns are gone because of the bullshit port arthur massacre. never let a crisis go to waste

I know all about cloud seeding. It's not a well-kept secret. So yes, some sort of weather manipulation is possible nowadays. If it was used in Vietnam, then yeah... all's fair in love and war, like they say... and it's not farfetched that the military would use any means at their disposal to get an edge on the enemy. Again... not a huge secret. "Earthquake machines"? As you said... just a claim, to use your words. And again... if the military finds a way to get an edge over the enemy by manipulating things like rain and earthquakes... so be it. It's not right... but then again when was the military ever about doing things right?

Yes... people have lost jobs and businesses because of the pandemic. (You call it "plandemic", I'll continue referring to it as a pandemic). This effect has been global and across the board. When some sinister force is trying to subvert a group of people or a government, one would have to imagine it would be focused and directed. Just like your claim that future hurricanes will not be "natural" disasters. If you try to do a surgical strike in a crowded room using a hand grenade... you're going about it the wrong way. The people who have lost their jobs and businesses come from ALL walks of life. From EVERY country. From ALL economic sectors. From ALL races and ethnic groups. That's why when I hear claims (not from you) that COVID has disproportionately affected black people... or affected Democrats... well...

But again to your point. If the way to controlling people is denying them "freedoms and liberties" by fear... again... to what end? There has to be a grand master plan to all this, right? Who's doing it? What do they want people to do as sheeple? Who's to benefit? Again... this has been a global crisis (real or otherwise... authentic or manufactured). Not one group has been exempt from the scourges of this crisis. So.... was the grand scheme (whatever that is) successful??

Your claims about controlling people through "fear" need further explanation. Who wants to control who? You can't just leave it at that. That's the problem with Conspiracy Theories. Mostly they're just a shotgun blast vaguely aimed at something, without giving too much details.

QR codes, smart phones, credit cards, digital currency, yeah... it's called "progress." Can you be tracked? Sure. I've known that for years. I certainly didn't need any Conspiracy Theorist telling me that. You might be too young to remember... but the threat of "Big Brother" watching over your every move has been trumpeted for years. There's a one or two-year old documentary called "Social Dilemma" which talks about many of these things. I think we're all aware that the government (and/or big corporations) likes to gather as much info as possible about as many people as possible. It's a pain in the ass... but unavoidable, unless you choose to live on a deserted island. Frankly, I'd rather have the government's nose a little too far into my business, if the tradeoff is that they'll head off some homicidal nutcase who visits dark sites on the web, before he snaps and shoots up a shopping mall or blows up a building.

Which brings us to 911, which you brought up.

To each his own. I flew plenty before 911 and can very well tell you the difference.

Me? I get to the airport on time and with enough anticipation to go through the security checkpoints that didn't exist before 911. Does that bother me? No. That's the difference between maybe me and you, and between me and a whole bunch of other people who take everything as "they're taking away my rights and liberties." Some f*cking idiots flew planes into the Twin Towers in NYC and the Pentagon in D.C. (I mean... unless you believe that didn't really happen). So now humanity has to become a little inconvenienced when it wants to travel. Big f*cking deal... Again, just speaking for myself. But I'd rather get to the airport two hours early and fly with peace of mind, than spend less time at the airport and worry about some nutcase wanting to blow up the plane.

But I see where you're coming from. You have good points about the people that can't do this or can't do that because they're not vaccinated. It's a touchy subject, because some people have what they believe are good, medical reasons not to get vaccinated. Many of them are not even COVID-deniers. Yet they suffer the consequences of not being vaccinated. I'm not enough of a social expert to know what's the best policy here. In fact, I have family members that have chosen not to get vaccinated. So I understand.

But conspiracy theories for the sake of conspiracy theories is just something I've never been able to get on board with. Again... to each his own. You are certainly free to believe whatever you want... as we ALL do.