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    I may have asked this before... but do you not believe in JUST Covid? Or does your disbelief cover all other viruses?

    If you believe in other viruses but not COVID... is there a reason why this one is fake while the others are real?

    Frankly, it would make more sense if you didn't believe in viruses in general. After all... you don't believe in cancer, so that's not much of a stretch.



    Here's the thing.

    Let's separate FACT from OPINION.

    It's a FACT that thousands upon thousands of health professionals around the globe SAY that COVID exists. Let's use your terminology.

    It's a FACT that we've all been exposed to these pronouncements, complete with data, numbers, and scientific explanations.

    Follow me so far?




    Ok.

    Now... you BELIEVE that all that has been said about COVID is false. You BELIEVE Covid does not exist. It's fake.

    Most of us BELIEVE that all that has been said about COVID is true. We BELIEVE Covid exists. It's real.

    WHY your insistence that it is the rest of the world that needs to "prove" anything to you?

    That's pretty self aggrandizing, isn't it?

    Who are YOU that anyone needs to prove anything to you... and that your BELIEFS are facts while the rest of the world's are just BELIEFS?


    I'm pretty sure this has been asked of you before... but I don't recall ever hearing a satisfactory answer.

    If you were content with calling your own beliefs BELIEFS... even if you called our own beliefs BELIEFS as well... at least we could agree to disagree.

    But you want to stand at a podium and shoot spitballs at an aircraft carrier.

    Sorry... but it doesn't work that way.

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    The scientific method replaces belief with tested true knowledge. It is literally as close to 'knowing something' as you can get. It is aware of the need to constantly question and prove to itself any hypothesis it proposes. It is self aware. We don't believe covid exists, we know.

    TIC is not self aware all he has is the deluded belief of the gullible fool. He does not even understand any of the logical fallacies he thinks that he is cleverly refuting. He has already insisted that he is not interested in evidence. He has just again insisted that using evidence is a logical fallacy. He calls it an appeal to authority. We are not using an appeal to authority at all. We are not claiming its true because our mum said it was, or because David Icke or Alex Jones said it was. We are reminding him that the empirical evidence says covid exists. That is knowing.
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    Well I got sick with the exact same symptoms I had been reading about for months. For me, that even trumps (I hate to use that word) all the scientific evidence that exists, if that's possible.

    But...

    I'm willing to start with the flawed premise that COVID is a belief.

    My point is that "COVID doesn't exist" is also a belief... and who's to sit and judge who has to prove something to who?




    In other words, it is my BELIEF that the existence of COVID is a FACT.

    It is TIC's BELIEF that the non-existence of COVID is a FACT.

    I've got millions of people and the entire global scientific community on my side. I've got personal experience having gotten sick with the EXACT SAME SYMPTOMS that have been identified as COVID by health professionals the world over.

    But...

    Even when starting with the false premise of COVID being just a belief.... my point is that TIC's point of view is ALSO a belief.

    And since I don't believe in having burden of proof assigned arbitrarily... I don't accept the onus of having to prove anything.

    Besides... the onus should be on the infinitely minute minority.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Well I got sick with the exact same symptoms I had been reading about for months. For me, that even trumps (I hate to use that word) all the scientific evidence that exists, if that's possible.

    But...

    I'm willing to start with the flawed premise that COVID is a belief.

    My point is that "COVID doesn't exist" is also a belief... and who's to sit and judge who has to prove something to who?




    In other words, it is my BELIEF that the existence of COVID is a FACT.

    It is TIC's BELIEF that the non-existence of COVID is a FACT.

    I've got millions of people and the entire global scientific community on my side. I've got personal experience having gotten sick with the EXACT SAME SYMPTOMS that have been identified as COVID by health professionals the world over.

    But...

    Even when starting with the false premise of COVID being just a belief.... my point is that TIC's point of view is ALSO a belief.

    And since I don't believe in having burden of proof assigned arbitrarily... I don't accept the onus of having to prove anything.

    Besides... the onus should be on the infinitely minute minority.
    your symptoms are not you proving covid is real. the claim was made that something is real in my world. that claim needs to be proved. you have every right to believe that claim. your belief in that claim doesn't make it a fact. i don't hold a belief about covid. i am asking you how you know it is real & how you have proved that. you haven't proved it so it is only your belief. you are using fallacies by talking about consensus & experts. that is not you knowing. just like your symptoms are not you proving covid is a virus caught from outside the body, from person to person, through the air or off surfaces. it is just you having faith in what you are being told. the burden of proof is with those making the claim. you don't have to prove anything. you can keep believing. i am not interested in your beliefs
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    those damn domestic violent extremists

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/domesti...ulletin-warns/
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    Quote Originally Posted by TIC View Post
    those damn domestic violent extremists

    Oh I see... yet another conspiracy.

    But I'll bet you have the pulse of the situation and know exactly who is planning to attack the U.S. power grid... right?

    Tell me... I don't know whether you were born when Timothy McVeigh bombed and destroyed a U.S. Federal Building in Oklahoma City.

    But I'll bet you have your conspiracy theory on that too... huh?

    Probably the media storyline about McVeigh being a domestic terrorist... hating the world... and wanting revenge against the U.S. government for the siege in Waco, Texas... is just too simplistic... right?

    There must be some convoluted "Cabal-related" cockamamie story about how the U.S. government bombed its OWN building and then put the blame on poor little Timothy... right?

    What does it matter that McVeigh was totally unremorseful all the way up to his execution by lethal injection in 2001.

    Wait......... unlesssss he really wasn't executed at all... and is now living under protective custody.

    Am I getting the hang of this or what??




    You see... that's why your arguments about COVID don't really hold any water.

    But that's cool. You do you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TIC View Post
    those damn domestic violent extremists

    Oh I see... yet another conspiracy.

    But I'll bet you have the pulse of the situation and know exactly who is planning to attack the U.S. power grid... right?

    Tell me... I don't know whether you were born when Timothy McVeigh bombed and destroyed a U.S. Federal Building in Oklahoma City.

    But I'll bet you have your conspiracy theory on that too... huh?

    Probably the media storyline about McVeigh being a domestic terrorist... hating the world... and wanting revenge against the U.S. government for the siege in Waco, Texas... is just too simplistic... right?

    There must be some convoluted "Cabal-related" cockamamie story about how the U.S. government bombed its OWN building and then put the blame on poor little Timothy... right?

    What does it matter that McVeigh was totally unremorseful all the way up to his execution by lethal injection in 2001.

    Wait......... unlesssss he really wasn't executed at all... and is now living under protective custody.

    Am I getting the hang of this or what??




    You see... that's why your arguments about COVID don't really hold any water.

    But that's cool. You do you.
    who have they arrested & charged? should we just take their word? like they told us how the gulf of tonkin played out, until they changed that story. now you have created a red herring about the oklahoma city bombing. rip terrance yeakey. if those are your ideas on it that's fine but don't attach your red herrings to me. i wouldn't be surprised if this story was being used to cover for rolling blackouts or the like & orchestrated by the government
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beanz View Post
    The scientific method replaces belief with tested true knowledge. It is literally as close to 'knowing something' as you can get. It is aware of the need to constantly question and prove to itself any hypothesis it proposes. It is self aware. We don't believe covid exists, we know.

    TIC is not self aware all he has is the deluded belief of the gullible fool. He does not even understand any of the logical fallacies he thinks that he is cleverly refuting. He has already insisted that he is not interested in evidence. He has just again insisted that using evidence is a logical fallacy. He calls it an appeal to authority. We are not using an appeal to authority at all. We are not claiming its true because our mum said it was, or because David Icke or Alex Jones said it was. We are reminding him that the empirical evidence says covid exists. That is knowing.
    show me the scientific method you used to prove convid is real so i can repeat it. you know you cant because you only hold a belief you sperg
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    i hope this thread does not make it mainstream... lolol....
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    Quote Originally Posted by TIC View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Beanz View Post
    The scientific method replaces belief with tested true knowledge. It is literally as close to 'knowing something' as you can get. It is aware of the need to constantly question and prove to itself any hypothesis it proposes. It is self aware. We don't believe covid exists, we know.

    TIC is not self aware all he has is the deluded belief of the gullible fool. He does not even understand any of the logical fallacies he thinks that he is cleverly refuting. He has already insisted that he is not interested in evidence. He has just again insisted that using evidence is a logical fallacy. He calls it an appeal to authority. We are not using an appeal to authority at all. We are not claiming its true because our mum said it was, or because David Icke or Alex Jones said it was. We are reminding him that the empirical evidence says covid exists. That is knowing.
    show me the scientific method you used to prove convid is real so i can repeat it. you know you cant because you only hold a belief you sperg
    You can't even construct a sentence or form an argument, so what hope is there of you being able to understand the fact that 'the scientific method' is an empirical method of acquiring knowledge? It is literally how we all know things, rather than relying on beliefs like you, you thick twat.

    It is not a single anecdotal amateur experiment that you can inexpertly complete without independent observers, checks and measures carried out, that would be doomed by your own cognitive assumptions distorting your observations and conclusions.

    If you can't start a sentence with a capital letter or spell aspergers, I am not sure you can be trusted to even do up the buttons on a lab coat, let alone follow lab protocol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beanz View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TIC View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Beanz View Post
    The scientific method replaces belief with tested true knowledge. It is literally as close to 'knowing something' as you can get. It is aware of the need to constantly question and prove to itself any hypothesis it proposes. It is self aware. We don't believe covid exists, we know.

    TIC is not self aware all he has is the deluded belief of the gullible fool. He does not even understand any of the logical fallacies he thinks that he is cleverly refuting. He has already insisted that he is not interested in evidence. He has just again insisted that using evidence is a logical fallacy. He calls it an appeal to authority. We are not using an appeal to authority at all. We are not claiming its true because our mum said it was, or because David Icke or Alex Jones said it was. We are reminding him that the empirical evidence says covid exists. That is knowing.
    show me the scientific method you used to prove convid is real so i can repeat it. you know you cant because you only hold a belief you sperg
    You can't even construct a sentence or form an argument, so what hope is there of you being able to understand the fact that 'the scientific method' is an empirical method of acquiring knowledge? It is literally how we all know things, rather than relying on beliefs like you, you thick twat.

    It is not a single anecdotal amateur experiment that you can inexpertly complete without independent observers, checks and measures carried out, that would be doomed by your own cognitive assumptions distorting your observations and conclusions.

    If you can't start a sentence with a capital letter or spell aspergers, I am not sure you can be trusted to even do up the buttons on a lab coat, let alone follow lab protocol.
    seven times larry the sperg you have no scientific method to show that your hypothesis that convid is a virus caught from outside the body, from person to person, through the air or off surfaces. you only hold a belief you spastic
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    Quote Originally Posted by TIC View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Beanz View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TIC View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Beanz View Post
    The scientific method replaces belief with tested true knowledge. It is literally as close to 'knowing something' as you can get. It is aware of the need to constantly question and prove to itself any hypothesis it proposes. It is self aware. We don't believe covid exists, we know.

    TIC is not self aware all he has is the deluded belief of the gullible fool. He does not even understand any of the logical fallacies he thinks that he is cleverly refuting. He has already insisted that he is not interested in evidence. He has just again insisted that using evidence is a logical fallacy. He calls it an appeal to authority. We are not using an appeal to authority at all. We are not claiming its true because our mum said it was, or because David Icke or Alex Jones said it was. We are reminding him that the empirical evidence says covid exists. That is knowing.
    show me the scientific method you used to prove convid is real so i can repeat it. you know you cant because you only hold a belief you sperg
    You can't even construct a sentence or form an argument, so what hope is there of you being able to understand the fact that 'the scientific method' is an empirical method of acquiring knowledge? It is literally how we all know things, rather than relying on beliefs like you, you thick twat.

    It is not a single anecdotal amateur experiment that you can inexpertly complete without independent observers, checks and measures carried out, that would be doomed by your own cognitive assumptions distorting your observations and conclusions.

    If you can't start a sentence with a capital letter or spell aspergers, I am not sure you can be trusted to even do up the buttons on a lab coat, let alone follow lab protocol.
    seven times larry the sperg you have no scientific method to show that your hypothesis that convid is a virus caught from outside the body, from person to person, through the air or off surfaces. you only hold a belief you spastic
    The scientific method is exactly how and why we all know that Covid is real. Your idea that you conducting a one off experiment would be a way of you knowing something is delusional nonsense. All it would do is support your assumptions and bias. You would have to trust all the manufacturers of the equipment and previously agreed scientific methods and conditions to do so. All these were arrived at by consensus, which because you are unable to think critically, is something you think is an indication of an international conspiracy.

    It is not my hypothesis, it is one proposed and tested by thousands of competing experts in independent labs around the world. Their consensus is arrived at by meticulous competitive peer review of each other's work.

    We have all conducted numerous home experiments with lateral flow tests in order to be able to go about our lives and not be crippled by fear or the fairy tale beliefs that have obviously crippled you mentally and emotionally for nearly two years now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beanz View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beanz View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TIC View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Beanz View Post
    The scientific method replaces belief with tested true knowledge. It is literally as close to 'knowing something' as you can get. It is aware of the need to constantly question and prove to itself any hypothesis it proposes. It is self aware. We don't believe covid exists, we know.

    TIC is not self aware all he has is the deluded belief of the gullible fool. He does not even understand any of the logical fallacies he thinks that he is cleverly refuting. He has already insisted that he is not interested in evidence. He has just again insisted that using evidence is a logical fallacy. He calls it an appeal to authority. We are not using an appeal to authority at all. We are not claiming its true because our mum said it was, or because David Icke or Alex Jones said it was. We are reminding him that the empirical evidence says covid exists. That is knowing.
    show me the scientific method you used to prove convid is real so i can repeat it. you know you cant because you only hold a belief you sperg
    You can't even construct a sentence or form an argument, so what hope is there of you being able to understand the fact that 'the scientific method' is an empirical method of acquiring knowledge? It is literally how we all know things, rather than relying on beliefs like you, you thick twat.

    It is not a single anecdotal amateur experiment that you can inexpertly complete without independent observers, checks and measures carried out, that would be doomed by your own cognitive assumptions distorting your observations and conclusions.

    If you can't start a sentence with a capital letter or spell aspergers, I am not sure you can be trusted to even do up the buttons on a lab coat, let alone follow lab protocol.
    seven times larry the sperg you have no scientific method to show that your hypothesis that convid is a virus caught from outside the body, from person to person, through the air or off surfaces. you only hold a belief you spastic
    The scientific method is exactly how and why we all know that Covid is real. Your idea that you conducting a one off experiment would be a way of you knowing something is delusional nonsense. All it would do is support your assumptions and bias. You would have to trust all the manufacturers of the equipment and previously agreed scientific methods and conditions to do so. All these were arrived at by consensus, which because you are unable to think critically, is something you think is an indication of an international conspiracy.

    It is not my hypothesis, it is one proposed and tested by thousands of competing experts in independent labs around the world. Their consensus is arrived at by meticulous competitive peer review of each other's work.

    We have all conducted numerous home experiments with lateral flow tests in order to be able to go about our lives and not be crippled by fear or the fairy tale beliefs that have obviously crippled you mentally and emotionally for nearly two years now.

    We know, we truly know whilst you only believe.
    you don't know shit. you only believe what you have been told & you are too retarded to understand the difference. i never said anything about a one of experiment. i am asking for the scientific method you used to verify your belief to be true. consensus is not you proving the claim is true & is another fallacy. if you know something that would mean you have proved it to be true & i can also verify it. you believe, you only believe spergy larry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    I may have asked this before... but do you not believe in JUST Covid? Or does your disbelief cover all other viruses?

    If you believe in other viruses but not COVID... is there a reason why this one is fake while the others are real?

    Frankly, it would make more sense if you didn't believe in viruses in general. After all... you don't believe in cancer, so that's not much of a stretch.



    Here's the thing.

    Let's separate FACT from OPINION.

    It's a FACT that thousands upon thousands of health professionals around the globe SAY that COVID exists. Let's use your terminology.

    It's a FACT that we've all been exposed to these pronouncements, complete with data, numbers, and scientific explanations.

    Follow me so far?




    Ok.

    Now... you BELIEVE that all that has been said about COVID is false. You BELIEVE Covid does not exist. It's fake.

    Most of us BELIEVE that all that has been said about COVID is true. We BELIEVE Covid exists. It's real.

    WHY your insistence that it is the rest of the world that needs to "prove" anything to you?

    That's pretty self aggrandizing, isn't it?

    Who are YOU that anyone needs to prove anything to you... and that your BELIEFS are facts while the rest of the world's are just BELIEFS?


    I'm pretty sure this has been asked of you before... but I don't recall ever hearing a satisfactory answer.

    If you were content with calling your own beliefs BELIEFS... even if you called our own beliefs BELIEFS as well... at least we could agree to disagree.

    But you want to stand at a podium and shoot spitballs at an aircraft carrier.

    Sorry... but it doesn't work that way.
    people get ill or a disease that is a fact. i am interested in the cause of the illness or disease. you are mis representing me by saying i don't believe in cancer. cancer is an illness or disease. i know people get ill or a disease. i'm interested in knowing the cause. lets start from the very beginning. where did the claim come from? it wasn't from me. it was declared that there is a virus that is caught from outside the body, from person to person, through the air or off surfaces that is the cause of a pandemic. do you agree with that? that is the claim that is said to be real in my world. that claim needs to be proved. you believe that claim, that is your right. i am asking you how you know that claim is real. you have admitted you only have a belief. i am not interested in your belief. only your proof of how you know the claim is true
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    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    I may have asked this before... but do you not believe in JUST Covid? Or does your disbelief cover all other viruses?

    If you believe in other viruses but not COVID... is there a reason why this one is fake while the others are real?

    Frankly, it would make more sense if you didn't believe in viruses in general. After all... you don't believe in cancer, so that's not much of a stretch
    Man won't call cancer cancer and does not 'believe' in it. I just hope the likeminded never have to 'know' it. I mean really, that's pretty much a wrap in some things a man has to hear to know what and who they're dealing with . Can only imagine how visits to medical professionals go.

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