Canelo eyes another lame zebra

[palmerq]

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And DAZN is expected to also go for a PPV format for Canelo’s two upcoming fights.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/17775...gy-fight-deal/

You damn traitors dazn, PPV, that's a shame...


Bivol is pretty good though, pretty quick and a good mover which Alvarez doesn't like, he's pretty small at 175 though so I doubt he'll have a weight advantage here, I think it'll be pretty close though and not a guaranteed Alvarez win. Light heavy weight Alvarez v a forty year old Golovkin who's also never been particularly big is less interesting despite how obviously skilled Golovkin is.

[Primo Carnera]

You cannot fault Canelo if he takes on Bivol, only Canelo haters could criticise it. But why the fuck is a 40 GGG even in the mix?
You should never hope somebody loses, but if Murata beats him first and scuppers the fight , it would be good for Boxing.

[TitoFan]

Soooooo..... DAZN is offering a PPV fee of $60 to current subscribers and $80 to new subscribers. A whole $20 savings to those already doling out subscription fees. Wow. I'm really missing out.

As far as the two fights, I've already gone on record for giving Canelo credit for the Bivol fight. That doesn't change my opinion of him and the hype machinery that created him. But yeah... I'll give him credit.

GGG?

Please.

Golovkin didn't take advantage when he had the chance, and opted for leaving it up to the Las Vegas judges (whew... excuse me).

He obviously didn't get the memo that the only way you get a decision against Canelo in Vegas is if Canelo's out cold and can't be upright to get his hand raised.

GGG gave Canelo too much respect and, even though he actually won the first fight..... (see sentence above).

Now Golovkin's OLDER... Canelo's BIGGER... and of course I've always known that Ginger's got a pretty good chin.

So why the FUKK is this fight happening in the first place??!??

I know... to further Ginger's legacy by knocking out a decrepit old man.

GGG couldn't do it the first two times. What's the fukking point of them trying it again??



Now... after all is said and done... is Ginger ever going to face Beterbiev?

Or is that fight going to marinate until Artur is 40 years old?

[Vendettos]

Soooooo..... DAZN is offering a PPV fee of $60 to current subscribers and $80 to new subscribers. A whole $20 savings to those already doling out subscription fees. Wow. I'm really missing out.

As far as the two fights, I've already gone on record for giving Canelo credit for the Bivol fight. That doesn't change my opinion of him and the hype machinery that created him. But yeah... I'll give him credit.

GGG?

Please.

Golovkin didn't take advantage when he had the chance, and opted for leaving it up to the Las Vegas judges (whew... excuse me).

He obviously didn't get the memo that the only way you get a decision against Canelo in Vegas is if Canelo's out cold and can't be upright to get his hand raised.

GGG gave Canelo too much respect and, even though he actually won the first fight..... (see sentence above).

Now Golovkin's OLDER... Canelo's BIGGER... and of course I've always known that Ginger's got a pretty good chin.

So why the FUKK is this fight happening in the first place??!??

I know... to further Ginger's legacy by knocking out a decrepit old man.

GGG couldn't do it the first two times. What's the fukking point of them trying it again??



Now... after all is said and done... is Ginger ever going to face Beterbiev?

Or is that fight going to marinate until Artur is 40 years old?

I gave Canelo both fights, without issue.

I don’t get the controversy. It’s just idiots with the Mayweather effect, just hoping he loses.

GGG wasn’t good enough then and isn’t good enough now that he is older.

I am not like a “super” Canelo fan or anything either, but he won.

His only option is to go to LW (which he has done again) or CW, as there is literally no one to test him, short of somehow getting to the weight to fight Crawford.

Which he won’t do because it’s pointless and he destroys Crawford in a few rounds.

He really shows that level matter. He is just levels above everyone.

Beterbiev is not even worth mentioning because he is a scumbag from a scumbag country.

[Master]

Golovkin won the first fight against Canelo and Beterbiev would be his biggest test now. Bivol is the 2nd biggest test for Saul.

Huge credit to Canelo if he takes up these challenges. They are dangerous for him and he deserves his millions for taking them on.

[Spicoli]

Dazn failed coming Stateside and Andrade managed to tie the anchor around his career. Now they kneecap annual subscribers with ppv. But Canelo and Bivol is an honest fight me thinks..a rarity. Thought for sure he would make him come down as CW . Undercard better be decent. Yes that still matters.

[TitoFan]

Soooooo..... DAZN is offering a PPV fee of $60 to current subscribers and $80 to new subscribers. A whole $20 savings to those already doling out subscription fees. Wow. I'm really missing out.

As far as the two fights, I've already gone on record for giving Canelo credit for the Bivol fight. That doesn't change my opinion of him and the hype machinery that created him. But yeah... I'll give him credit.

GGG?

Please.

Golovkin didn't take advantage when he had the chance, and opted for leaving it up to the Las Vegas judges (whew... excuse me).

He obviously didn't get the memo that the only way you get a decision against Canelo in Vegas is if Canelo's out cold and can't be upright to get his hand raised.

GGG gave Canelo too much respect and, even though he actually won the first fight..... (see sentence above).

Now Golovkin's OLDER... Canelo's BIGGER... and of course I've always known that Ginger's got a pretty good chin.

So why the FUKK is this fight happening in the first place??!??

I know... to further Ginger's legacy by knocking out a decrepit old man.

GGG couldn't do it the first two times. What's the fukking point of them trying it again??



Now... after all is said and done... is Ginger ever going to face Beterbiev?

Or is that fight going to marinate until Artur is 40 years old?

I gave Canelo both fights, without issue.

I don’t get the controversy. It’s just idiots with the Mayweather effect, just hoping he loses.

GGG wasn’t good enough then and isn’t good enough now that he is older.

I am not like a “super” Canelo fan or anything either, but he won.

His only option is to go to LW (which he has done again) or CW, as there is literally no one to test him, short of somehow getting to the weight to fight Crawford.

Which he won’t do because it’s pointless and he destroys Crawford in a few rounds.

He really shows that level matter. He is just levels above everyone.

Beterbiev is not even worth mentioning because he is a scumbag from a scumbag country.

You thought Canelo won both GGG fights... fair enough. I would venture to say you're in the minority, if I were to base it on opinions you read and hear across the board. But such is the nature of boxing decisions.

Your comparison to the "Mayweather effect", as you call it, is (if I'm to be kind) puzzling to say the least. I never liked Floyd the person... and many times rooted against him. But in no way does his resume and Canelo's compare. Floyd went headlong into challenges, undefeated record be damned. Other than the Pacquiao fight, which took way too long to materialize, Floyd faced all comers. No weight draining... no diva clauses... no marinating. You can't say the judges were bought because most judges probably wanted him to lose also. Floyd was, for all intents and purposes, not a very likable guy.

But Floyd's list of opponents over the years reads like a Who's Who of boxing. Most were at or close to their peak. Floyd never jumped two divisions to grab a trinket from a woefully weak belt-holder simply for the trinket's sake. And this is all from a person who never liked Floyd.

So spare us the "Mayweather effect" comparison, please. It does not apply here. If you can't see how Mayweather's and Canelo's careers have been way different, I'm afraid I can't help you there.

Has Floyd regressed into a carnival act? Fighting bozos like McGregor and Logan Paul? Absolutely. An ATG of his caliber cannot stand being out of the spotlight. But that's neither here nor there. When he was actively fighting, he fought many of the best out there. There was never this preconceived, carefully put together strategy to preserve his precious "0". In fact, several times he came perilously close to losing it.

BTW... nothing wrong with being a "super" Canelo fan. Own up to it.

[Vendettos]

Soooooo..... DAZN is offering a PPV fee of $60 to current subscribers and $80 to new subscribers. A whole $20 savings to those already doling out subscription fees. Wow. I'm really missing out.

As far as the two fights, I've already gone on record for giving Canelo credit for the Bivol fight. That doesn't change my opinion of him and the hype machinery that created him. But yeah... I'll give him credit.

GGG?

Please.

Golovkin didn't take advantage when he had the chance, and opted for leaving it up to the Las Vegas judges (whew... excuse me).

He obviously didn't get the memo that the only way you get a decision against Canelo in Vegas is if Canelo's out cold and can't be upright to get his hand raised.

GGG gave Canelo too much respect and, even though he actually won the first fight..... (see sentence above).

Now Golovkin's OLDER... Canelo's BIGGER... and of course I've always known that Ginger's got a pretty good chin.

So why the FUKK is this fight happening in the first place??!??

I know... to further Ginger's legacy by knocking out a decrepit old man.

GGG couldn't do it the first two times. What's the fukking point of them trying it again??



Now... after all is said and done... is Ginger ever going to face Beterbiev?

Or is that fight going to marinate until Artur is 40 years old?

I gave Canelo both fights, without issue.

I don’t get the controversy. It’s just idiots with the Mayweather effect, just hoping he loses.

GGG wasn’t good enough then and isn’t good enough now that he is older.

I am not like a “super” Canelo fan or anything either, but he won.

His only option is to go to LW (which he has done again) or CW, as there is literally no one to test him, short of somehow getting to the weight to fight Crawford.

Which he won’t do because it’s pointless and he destroys Crawford in a few rounds.

He really shows that level matter. He is just levels above everyone.

Beterbiev is not even worth mentioning because he is a scumbag from a scumbag country.

You thought Canelo won both GGG fights... fair enough. I would venture to say you're in the minority, if I were to base it on opinions you read and hear across the board. But such is the nature of boxing decisions.

Your comparison to the "Mayweather effect", as you call it, is (if I'm to be kind) puzzling to say the least. I never liked Floyd the person... and many times rooted against him. But in no way does his resume and Canelo's compare. Floyd went headlong into challenges, undefeated record be damned. Other than the Pacquiao fight, which took way too long to materialize, Floyd faced all comers. No weight draining... no diva clauses... no marinating. You can't say the judges were bought because most judges probably wanted him to lose also. Floyd was, for all intents and purposes, not a very likable guy.

But Floyd's list of opponents over the years reads like a Who's Who of boxing. Most were at or close to their peak. Floyd never jumped two divisions to grab a trinket from a woefully weak belt-holder simply for the trinket's sake. And this is all from a person who never liked Floyd.

So spare us the "Mayweather effect" comparison, please. It does not apply here. If you can't see how Mayweather's and Canelo's careers have been way different, I'm afraid I can't help you there.

Has Floyd regressed into a carnival act? Fighting bozos like McGregor and Logan Paul? Absolutely. An ATG of his caliber cannot stand being out of the spotlight. But that's neither here nor there. When he was actively fighting, he fought many of the best out there. There was never this preconceived, carefully put together strategy to preserve his precious "0". In fact, several times he came perilously close to losing it.

BTW... nothing wrong with being a "super" Canelo fan. Own up to it.

Hey Tito! Hope you are good. i’ve read over the message, however I don’t have the time to reply right now buddy.

I will reply soon. 👍 once again I hope you and yours are good.

[TitoFan]

Soooooo..... DAZN is offering a PPV fee of $60 to current subscribers and $80 to new subscribers. A whole $20 savings to those already doling out subscription fees. Wow. I'm really missing out.

As far as the two fights, I've already gone on record for giving Canelo credit for the Bivol fight. That doesn't change my opinion of him and the hype machinery that created him. But yeah... I'll give him credit.

GGG?

Please.

Golovkin didn't take advantage when he had the chance, and opted for leaving it up to the Las Vegas judges (whew... excuse me).

He obviously didn't get the memo that the only way you get a decision against Canelo in Vegas is if Canelo's out cold and can't be upright to get his hand raised.

GGG gave Canelo too much respect and, even though he actually won the first fight..... (see sentence above).

Now Golovkin's OLDER... Canelo's BIGGER... and of course I've always known that Ginger's got a pretty good chin.

So why the FUKK is this fight happening in the first place??!??

I know... to further Ginger's legacy by knocking out a decrepit old man.

GGG couldn't do it the first two times. What's the fukking point of them trying it again??



Now... after all is said and done... is Ginger ever going to face Beterbiev?

Or is that fight going to marinate until Artur is 40 years old?

I gave Canelo both fights, without issue.

I don’t get the controversy. It’s just idiots with the Mayweather effect, just hoping he loses.

GGG wasn’t good enough then and isn’t good enough now that he is older.

I am not like a “super” Canelo fan or anything either, but he won.

His only option is to go to LW (which he has done again) or CW, as there is literally no one to test him, short of somehow getting to the weight to fight Crawford.

Which he won’t do because it’s pointless and he destroys Crawford in a few rounds.

He really shows that level matter. He is just levels above everyone.

Beterbiev is not even worth mentioning because he is a scumbag from a scumbag country.

You thought Canelo won both GGG fights... fair enough. I would venture to say you're in the minority, if I were to base it on opinions you read and hear across the board. But such is the nature of boxing decisions.

Your comparison to the "Mayweather effect", as you call it, is (if I'm to be kind) puzzling to say the least. I never liked Floyd the person... and many times rooted against him. But in no way does his resume and Canelo's compare. Floyd went headlong into challenges, undefeated record be damned. Other than the Pacquiao fight, which took way too long to materialize, Floyd faced all comers. No weight draining... no diva clauses... no marinating. You can't say the judges were bought because most judges probably wanted him to lose also. Floyd was, for all intents and purposes, not a very likable guy.

But Floyd's list of opponents over the years reads like a Who's Who of boxing. Most were at or close to their peak. Floyd never jumped two divisions to grab a trinket from a woefully weak belt-holder simply for the trinket's sake. And this is all from a person who never liked Floyd.

So spare us the "Mayweather effect" comparison, please. It does not apply here. If you can't see how Mayweather's and Canelo's careers have been way different, I'm afraid I can't help you there.

Has Floyd regressed into a carnival act? Fighting bozos like McGregor and Logan Paul? Absolutely. An ATG of his caliber cannot stand being out of the spotlight. But that's neither here nor there. When he was actively fighting, he fought many of the best out there. There was never this preconceived, carefully put together strategy to preserve his precious "0". In fact, several times he came perilously close to losing it.

BTW... nothing wrong with being a "super" Canelo fan. Own up to it.

Hey Tito! Hope you are good. i’ve read over the message, however I don’t have the time to reply right now buddy.

I will reply soon. 👍 once again I hope you and yours are good.

Hi Vendettos. Same here bro.

Look... I know some of what you're going to say. I'm just a Canelo hater... and so on and so forth.

True... I've never sympathized with Canelo ever since he started his career being brought up more gently than a prematurely born baby.

I've always been adamantly against hype... and when hype precedes the reality or even worse... when the hype is created by a media starving for a handsome, matinee idol star... I'm totally against it.

I could've predicted Canelo's career path ever since he followed the tried and true formula of "let's feed him 50 corpses in his own backyard to start his career"... and let's bloat his record to sell him more easily.

Even staunch Canelo defenders admit to his having truly lost several fights on his way to the top.

But again... the only way to get a decision against Canelo in Vegas (his backyard) is to threaten the judges at gunpoint.

But you mentioned "the idiots with the Mayweather effect" and that had to be addressed.

Again... I've disliked Floyd the person for a long time. He's not as bad as Broner... but not a very likable chap. So I've no reason to root for him.

And yes... I rooted against him many a time.

But I gotta call a spade a spade.

Starting with Diego Corrales, Floyd went on a tear of fighting great opposition, many of whom were perfectly capable of defeating him on a good night.

Save for Arturo Gatti. That was a predictable one-sided slaughter.

Baldomir was nothing to write home about... and JMM was woefully undersized and should've never taken that fight.

But by and large Floyd fought all comers... and they posed credible risks.

My memory may fail me... but I just don't remember the negotiation shenanigans with Floyd that were a staple of Canelo fights. Again... the Pac fight should've happened years before. But that's another story.

Floyd never ducked anybody. He never let fights marinate. The opposition was there... Floyd faced it.

Cotto gave him a pretty good fight. Maidana gave him a hell of a fight.

Floyd never starved anybody. He never dragged anyone to his weight. (Again... save the JMM fight).

Floyd did all this... while being one of the most disliked champions in boxing. To me... that just adds to his greatness.

Sometimes we gotta tip our hats to fighters we don't like.

But it's gotta be real.... not manufactured.

If Canelo fights Bivol on the level... good for him. About time he started leaving this shit show behind and take some real risks.