Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez v Dmitry Bivol - 7th May 2022

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i doubt judges will be needed for this fight. canelo will end it by a late knockout

If judges are needed then Bivol should win on points. He will outbox Canelo as Kovalev was doing before he capitulated late on in their fight. I need to find out how the judges had that fight because Canelo should have been behind.

I disagree on both counts, @Master.

Bivol will never win on points. Never. Nunca. Jamais. Nooit. Nie. Not in Vegas, for crying out loud. Bivol would have to drop Canelo in every round to have any chance at getting a decision. And even then it would be split.

Ginger is the most protected fighter in modern history... and anyone who doesn't believe that is suffering from denial.

Kovalev fought Ginger like a shell-shocked Bambi. Looks like Andre Ward's KO of him to the body took out any of the bully that used to intimidate opponents. Team Ginger must've watched LOTS of film.

Bivol's not a murderous puncher.

So unfortunately he goes for the knockout and risks getting tagged himself..... or he resigns himself to seeing Ginger's arm raised at the end of the fight regardless of who actually deserves the decision.

i could see dmitry winning a decision without dropping canelo in every round & possibly a unanimous decision if can can box & keep canelo from planting his feet. i didn't think canelo was protected against austin, floyd, erislandy, ggg times two, danny, callum & billy joe. i thought sergey boxed well before canelo iced him. andre's robbery & then nut shots may have taken some of sergey's desire. canelo will dominate against dmitry & i doubt the judges will be needed

[Master]

Golovkin definitely beat Canelo in their first fight and the judge that gave it to Canelo with his insane scoring showed he was being protected.

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Golovkin definitely beat Canelo in their first fight and the judge that gave it to Canelo with his insane scoring showed he was being protected.

i can see a draw in the first ggg fight. i had canelo losing but i can see how a draw can be justified, not a win though. does a judge protect a fighter in actual combat? canelo has to get in the ring & actually fight these opponents. canelo facing the unbeaten ggg was a big risk & he fought him again in his next fight after many felt he lost the first. another big risk. if i was trying to protect a fighter i wouldn't be putting him in with ggg back to back

[Master]

Golovkin definitely beat Canelo in their first fight and the judge that gave it to Canelo with his insane scoring showed he was being protected.

i can see a draw in the first ggg fight. i had canelo losing but i can see how a draw can be justified, not a win though. does a judge protect a fighter in actual combat? canelo has to get in the ring & actually fight these opponents. canelo facing the unbeaten ggg was a big risk & he fought him again in his next fight after many felt he lost the first. another big risk. if i was trying to protect a fighter i wouldn't be putting him in with ggg back to back

You would when you have at least 1 judge in your pocket and know all you have to do is get to a decision and you have a chance to win a decision. The extra burden on your opponent can be a negative.

[TIC]

Golovkin definitely beat Canelo in their first fight and the judge that gave it to Canelo with his insane scoring showed he was being protected.

i can see a draw in the first ggg fight. i had canelo losing but i can see how a draw can be justified, not a win though. does a judge protect a fighter in actual combat? canelo has to get in the ring & actually fight these opponents. canelo facing the unbeaten ggg was a big risk & he fought him again in his next fight after many felt he lost the first. another big risk. if i was trying to protect a fighter i wouldn't be putting him in with ggg back to back

You would when you have at least 1 judge in your pocket and know all you have to do is get to a decision and you have a chance to win a decision. The extra burden on your opponent can be a negative.

no i wouldn't because having a judge in your pocket doesn't soften the punches the opponent is throwing. lets say for example i have a judge in my pocket & know all i have to do is get jamie munguia to a decision and he will win a decision against ggg. even now that is a big risk for jamie. a judge in my pocket won't protect jamie in the ring. also canelo didn't get the decision in the first ggg fight

[Master]

Golovkin definitely beat Canelo in their first fight and the judge that gave it to Canelo with his insane scoring showed he was being protected.

i can see a draw in the first ggg fight. i had canelo losing but i can see how a draw can be justified, not a win though. does a judge protect a fighter in actual combat? canelo has to get in the ring & actually fight these opponents. canelo facing the unbeaten ggg was a big risk & he fought him again in his next fight after many felt he lost the first. another big risk. if i was trying to protect a fighter i wouldn't be putting him in with ggg back to back

You would when you have at least 1 judge in your pocket and know all you have to do is get to a decision and you have a chance to win a decision. The extra burden on your opponent can be a negative.

no i wouldn't because having a judge in your pocket doesn't soften the punches the opponent is throwing. lets say for example i have a judge in my pocket & know all i have to do is get jamie munguia to a decision and he will win a decision against ggg. even now that is a big risk for jamie. a judge in my pocket won't protect jamie in the ring. also canelo didn't get the decision in the first ggg fight

He got a gift of a draw.

[TIC]

Golovkin definitely beat Canelo in their first fight and the judge that gave it to Canelo with his insane scoring showed he was being protected.

i can see a draw in the first ggg fight. i had canelo losing but i can see how a draw can be justified, not a win though. does a judge protect a fighter in actual combat? canelo has to get in the ring & actually fight these opponents. canelo facing the unbeaten ggg was a big risk & he fought him again in his next fight after many felt he lost the first. another big risk. if i was trying to protect a fighter i wouldn't be putting him in with ggg back to back

You would when you have at least 1 judge in your pocket and know all you have to do is get to a decision and you have a chance to win a decision. The extra burden on your opponent can be a negative.

no i wouldn't because having a judge in your pocket doesn't soften the punches the opponent is throwing. lets say for example i have a judge in my pocket & know all i have to do is get jamie munguia to a decision and he will win a decision against ggg. even now that is a big risk for jamie. a judge in my pocket won't protect jamie in the ring. also canelo didn't get the decision in the first ggg fight

He got a gift of a draw.

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