Margarito plans to sue for admittance into HOF

[Master]

I see one poster asking a legit question. And I see two posters unable to answer the question. So I will answer it. There are no fights in which Antonio Margarito cheated in. There were some issues with his wraps prior to the Mosley fight. But that was dealt with. Margarito went into that fight with wraps that were ok. The first fight against Cotto is brought up as one he cheated in. But that's just nonsense mostly brought up by Cotto's fellow Puto Ricans. Cotto didn't lose cuz of loaded gloves. He lost cuz he got hit over 200 times. Couldn't hurt Margarito. And couldn't keep Margarito off him. So he quit.

The issues with Margarito's hand wraps in the Mosley fight led to him being suspended. He got battered in the fight and stopped.

If he got caught in this fight how many others did he do it in?

that is the question i am asking but you have already admitted officially none. you can believe or imagine what you want but i am not interested in what you believe or imagine

He cheated in the Shane fight. It does not matter if it was in actual combat, he got caught in the act. Your distinction is irrelevant. Margarito would have used the loaded gloves if he was not caught.

the question i asked was what fight, actual combat did antonio cheat in. it does matter. because hitting someone with loaded gloves is not the same as hitting someone with legal wraps. that is the distinction. what antonio would have done is irrelevant. i asked what he did in the actual ring, in combat

It does not matter if it was having loaded gloves in the dressing room and not in the ring because he was caught which is why he did not use them.

Do not reward Margarito for that, he is a cheat that got caught.

you are still avoiding the question i asked. what fight, actual combat did antonio cheat in? so you admit he did not use loaded wraps against shane & admit officially it is no fights that he used illegal wraps in. it does matter if he used them in combat or not. it would make a big difference to the combat & safety of the opponent. someone like shane entered the ring, actual combat with any benefits he may have attained due to peds. shanes cheating is much worse & is accepted by the hall of fame

You are missing the major point that the only reason Margarito did not go into the ring with loaded gloves was because he got caught. He was willing to inflict physical injury on another man using illegal methods. If he was willing to do it in that bout how many others were there? He needed arresting and criminal charges thrown at him.

Is it worse than Shane using PED? That is a different subject.

the major point is he didn't inflict physical injury on another man using illegal methods. how many others were there? you have already admitted officially none. the thread is about antonio suing the hall of fame for admittance. i don't think anotnio should be in the hall of fame, he didn't do enough for me but if he is being refused for his alleged cheating then he is being held to a different standard than someone like shane

The major point is Margarito should not be going into a fight intending to use illegal hand wraps. He was caught and you are rewarding him for that which is wrong.

[TIC]

I see one poster asking a legit question. And I see two posters unable to answer the question. So I will answer it. There are no fights in which Antonio Margarito cheated in. There were some issues with his wraps prior to the Mosley fight. But that was dealt with. Margarito went into that fight with wraps that were ok. The first fight against Cotto is brought up as one he cheated in. But that's just nonsense mostly brought up by Cotto's fellow Puto Ricans. Cotto didn't lose cuz of loaded gloves. He lost cuz he got hit over 200 times. Couldn't hurt Margarito. And couldn't keep Margarito off him. So he quit.

The issues with Margarito's hand wraps in the Mosley fight led to him being suspended. He got battered in the fight and stopped.

If he got caught in this fight how many others did he do it in?

that is the question i am asking but you have already admitted officially none. you can believe or imagine what you want but i am not interested in what you believe or imagine

He cheated in the Shane fight. It does not matter if it was in actual combat, he got caught in the act. Your distinction is irrelevant. Margarito would have used the loaded gloves if he was not caught.

the question i asked was what fight, actual combat did antonio cheat in. it does matter. because hitting someone with loaded gloves is not the same as hitting someone with legal wraps. that is the distinction. what antonio would have done is irrelevant. i asked what he did in the actual ring, in combat

It does not matter if it was having loaded gloves in the dressing room and not in the ring because he was caught which is why he did not use them.

Do not reward Margarito for that, he is a cheat that got caught.

you are still avoiding the question i asked. what fight, actual combat did antonio cheat in? so you admit he did not use loaded wraps against shane & admit officially it is no fights that he used illegal wraps in. it does matter if he used them in combat or not. it would make a big difference to the combat & safety of the opponent. someone like shane entered the ring, actual combat with any benefits he may have attained due to peds. shanes cheating is much worse & is accepted by the hall of fame

You are missing the major point that the only reason Margarito did not go into the ring with loaded gloves was because he got caught. He was willing to inflict physical injury on another man using illegal methods. If he was willing to do it in that bout how many others were there? He needed arresting and criminal charges thrown at him.

Is it worse than Shane using PED? That is a different subject.

the major point is he didn't inflict physical injury on another man using illegal methods. how many others were there? you have already admitted officially none. the thread is about antonio suing the hall of fame for admittance. i don't think anotnio should be in the hall of fame, he didn't do enough for me but if he is being refused for his alleged cheating then he is being held to a different standard than someone like shane

The major point is Margarito should not be going into a fight intending to use illegal hand wraps. He was caught and you are rewarding him for that which is wrong.

the question i asked was what fight, actual combat did antonio cheat in? you have admitted it is officially none. i am not rewarding anyone. i am pointing out the difference between hitting someone with loaded wraps & non loaded wraps. antonio took whatever punishment was handed out to him for whatever happened outside of combat. someone like shane who may have received whatever benefits from peds & entered combat is not being held to the same hall of fame standards they are putting on antonio

[Master]

As I originally said there are better ways to make your point TIC.

Using your argument, I could say if Shane was caught using PED then what contest after that did he actually cheat in.

[TIC]

As I originally said there are better ways to make your point TIC.

Using your argument, I could say if Shane was caught using PED then what contest after that did he actually cheat in.

the point was clear in my question. what fight, actual combat did antonio cheat in? shane admitted to using peds. any benefits he may have received from them would have an effect on actual combat. what benefit in actual combat did antonio receive for being caught before combat?

[TitoFan]

[TIC]

can you bring yourself to admit the truth yet? it has already been admitted in this thread that officially antonio never cheated in combat. that means that miguel was beaten into quitting officially yeh?

[Master]

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As I originally said there are better ways to make your point TIC.

Using your argument, I could say if Shane was caught using PED then what contest after that did he actually cheat in.

the point was clear in my question. what fight, actual combat did antonio cheat in? shane admitted to using peds. any benefits he may have received from them would have an effect on actual combat. what benefit in actual combat did antonio receive for being caught before combat?[/QUOT

So you are going to ignore the fact he tried to cheat and prevented from entering the ring to focus on defending him by arguing what actual fight he cheated in?

There are better ways to make your point.

[TIC]

[QUOTE=Master;1581480]

As I originally said there are better ways to make your point TIC.

Using your argument, I could say if Shane was caught using PED then what contest after that did he actually cheat in.

the point was clear in my question. what fight, actual combat did antonio cheat in? shane admitted to using peds. any benefits he may have received from them would have an effect on actual combat. what benefit in actual combat did antonio receive for being caught before combat?[/QUOT

So you are going to ignore the fact he tried to cheat and prevented from entering the ring to focus on defending him by arguing what actual fight he cheated in?

There are better ways to make your point.

we can discuss what antonio did before the shane fight but that is a different discussion from the question i asked. the question i asked was about actual combat. i am not defending anything. just asking what fight, actual combat antonio cheated in? you have already admitted officially none. that part of the conversation should be over. now if you want to discuss what antonio did before actual combat we can go down that path

[Master]

There should be no difference or discussion about Margarito not cheating in actual combat. He loaded his gloves and was caught out in the dressing room. That is the only reason he did not get away with it in actual combat.

What is so hard to understand about that?