Who is next for Anthony Joshua?

[Master]

AJ should take on a durable but light puncher who will guarantee that he does a number of rounds to embed what he has learnt with the new trainer but not dangerous enough to knock him out.

The challenger should be safe and could even mean it not being a PPV. Staying active is more important.

Wilder and Joyce would be too dangerous at this stage but Ruiz, Wallin or Parker would be safer options.

[Spicoli]

Pretty crazy to see the W.e B.e C.ollecting doesn't even rank AJ now . Never been big on resetting a guy right where he was off a (convincing) loss so he should take a fight as the future of Usyk is completely up in the air. AJ can work out some mental cobwebs and make the headlines for fighting rather than talking about fighting. I mean ffs he's already been passed up by Frank Sanchez and a 55 yr old Luis Ortiz..he needs to get busy. Don't laugh..what about a Helenius? He gets the mass size, the decent jab, ok name and the very probable highlight reel win and his higher ranking.

[TitoFan]

Pretty crazy to see the W.e B.e C.ollecting doesn't even rank AJ now . Never been big on resetting a guy right where he was off a (convincing) loss so he should take a fight as the future of Usyk is completely up in the air. AJ can work out some mental cobwebs and make the headlines for fighting rather than talking about fighting. I mean ffs he's already been passed up by Frank Sanchez and a 55 yr old Luis Ortiz..he needs to get busy. Don't laugh..what about a Helenius? He gets the mass size, the decent jab, ok name and the very probable highlight reel win and his higher ranking.

Exhibit A as to why you take the alphabet rankings plus 3 bucks and you might be able to get a decent cup of coffee at a Starbucks.

A 5-year with a dartboard would come up with comparable rankings.

But the WBC is special (and I have my own meaning for the WBC, but I won't go into that as this isn't the appropriate thread ).

In a universe of misfits, the others can still look down on the WBC as the proverbial bottom of the barrel.

[Master]

“Anthony is in the States at the moment trying out some new trainers and getting his head right. He wants to be active in 2023,” Hearn told Sky Sports.

“I think Dillian [Whyte] is on the list. There’s a few other names – Deontay Wilder might be there, Otto Wallin. It’s his call.

“He is at a crossroads in his career. He can’t afford another loss.

“We’re going to see a very interesting 2023 across the whole heavyweight division. Joe Joyce is up there, ‘The Juggernaut’ is a handful. Daniel Dubois is coming back.

“Obviously Tyson Fury is the No. 1 in the world. He’s going to take all the beating, but I think he is quite close to getting the Usyk fight signed off. That’s a hell of a good fight, and a dangerous one.

“I think Usyk is the No. 1 heavyweight in the world. Tyson will disagree with me. Let’s go and see.

“The fight we all want to see eventually is AJ against Fury. You’ll get stories, Tyson will say the fight is never going to happen, Joshua will say he’d rather fight Dillian White. Forget all of that.

“This fight has to happen, and I think it does happen at the tail-end of 2023, for all the marbles.”

https://talksport.com/sport/boxing/1...t-barry-hearn/

[NoSavingByTheBell]

Last call for alcohol for AJ. Even if he wins his next fight in a snooze fest like the way he beat Ruiz, he's done.

[Master]

ANTHONY JOSHUA needs a "stricter camp" after having it too "easy and quick", his former trainer Robert Garcia said.

Speaking in Spanish to Izquierdazo and translated by Boxing247, Garcia said: "Everything was kind of easy and quick for him.

"He thought that that was the right way to do it, that he didn’t need to do it in another way.

“But when the time comes for this kind of fight, with fighters of a higher level, tougher fights, harder fights, you need a stricter camp, where he follows indications."

Joshua was spotted training in Virgil Hunter's California gym, where unbeaten American Andre Ward, 38, carved out his Hall of Fame career.

More recently, AJ was in Texas to link up with trainer of the year candidate Derrick James, who coaches Errol Spence Jr, 32.

Joshua brought Garcia over to England for his camp before losing to Usyk a second time.

But he has been urged to set up shop in the States full-time and start from fresh.

Garcia said: “I feel that he is taking the decision about coming to the United States.

“Because, if he came to talk with trainers such as Derrick James, who is very busy here in the United States, I don’t think that AJ’s plan is to take him to Europe, maybe he is planning to stay here.

"And I will be happy to see him here, even if he is not working with me. AJ needs a change, a completely new change to what he is not used to."

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/20876...robert-garcia/

[Master]

Price told iD Boxing: “I just caught him with a big right hand and down he went.

"He had to get helped up, type of thing, and ushered out the ring.

"And it was no big deal to me at the time, and there was no shame in that happening to you if I hit you.”

Joshua was one year away from winning Olympic gold in London, which later paved the way for two unified world title reigns in the professional ranks.

And in 2018 he admitted to being put down by Price, just hours after leaving a police cell.

Joshua revealed: “I had come out of a police cell the day I went up to training. I won’t use it as an excuse.

“I was coming up to training camp, Thursday to Sunday, because I was on a development course.

“But I got nicked on the way to training camp – for just trouble – and I got out on the Saturday.

“I started sparring as soon as I got up there, straight from the station, I do think he was very good at the time, very strong and I was making too many mistakes.

"Those circumstances don’t help when you’re sparring an elite fighter.

“I even had to get the train to Sheffield because they took my car – just to show my commitment. What I learnt was you cannot stop someone like me.

“They say you have two types of fighters; those that get dropped and stay down.

"But the ones you have to be wary of are the ones who keep on coming. You just cannot stop someone like that.

"I learnt it will take more than just power or durability to stop me.”

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/20875...hand-sparring/

[imp]

Joshua Vs Pulev 2 - March 25th

Joshua Vs Parker 2 - June 17th

Joshua Vs Whyte 2 - September 23rd

Joshua Vs Charles Martin 2 - December 24th

Unless he sacks his entire team he should Avoid Usyk, Fury, Wilder, Ruiz and Joyce.

[NoSavingByTheBell]

Joshua Vs Pulev 2 - March 25th

Joshua Vs Parker 2 - June 17th

Joshua Vs Whyte 2 - September 23rd

Joshua Vs Charles Martin 2 - December 24th

Unless he sacks his entire team he should Avoid Usyk, Fury, Wilder, Ruiz and Joyce.

Right he should avoid those five guys cuz he will get trounced with Beanz snapping photos lolol

[ykdadamaja]

AJ is paying for his arrogance and cowardice... on the arrogance, he thought looking like a model would get him past tough tests. He thought beating an old ass Wlad was something. As for the cowardice, he ran from Wilder more than he ran in the second Ruiz fight. He is what he was, a champ that just came and went. Move on from him... He does not have it anymore. He would never beat Usyk or Fury and Wilder would humiliate him.

[Spicoli]

What about Jermain Franklin fresh off of pushing a teetering Whyte to the brink and some controversy in November? In the name of restoring honor and such . May be all risk/reward for AJ but I guarantee it would be an interesting style mash up. Franklin hand speed may be a bit much for AJ but doesn't crack all that big. Big dude has a serious motor too.

[Master]

The world didn't give Francis Ngannou a chance. Now the world is queuing up to give him a chance. Now maybe, just maybe, it can be his world.

His globe-trotting has evolved from a story of escape to exhilarate, Ngannou's brave quest for purpose becoming a million-dollar spectacle of generational might.

The choice between turning left for the tranquil river or right for the dangerous rapids had been unavailable to him; a treacherous path is all that presented itself, the border-crossing hazards of which were out-lasted by a man who would overcome poverty, homelessness and a life-threatening route to new beginnings to build a case as one of the biggest and baddest fighting machines on the planet. When trouble hit, he hit back harder, such is the way of Francis Ngannou.

By the weekend's close the former UFC heavyweight champion will have fought boxing's reigning WBC heavyweight champion Tyson Fury and former unified heavyweight champion Anthony Joshua in the space of five months, marking his first two professional bouts in the ring. Quite the resume.

He continues to bet on himself, and triumph. Ngannou left Cameroon and Africa to take on a daunting trail in search of opportunity in Europe, and prevailed through his eventual discovery of supreme combat prowess in Paris; he walked away from dominance in the UFC in search of heightened reward and the challenges that loomed in boxing, and has, one might say, prevailed by way of headline encounters with the sport's marquee names.

Fury claimed a split decision victory when the pair met in Saudi Arabia last October, the lasting image, though, being the undefeated Gypsy King skewed horizontally on the canvas as Ngannou stood over him to admire the shock left hand that had just floored the champ. Subsequent debate over whether Fury had deserved to win in the face of a discourse-altering performance from Ngannou was, itself, a win for the MMA-convert and yet another strand to his staggering tale.

It was enough to earn him an extended stay between the ropes, and another handsome pay day, and another all-eyes-on-us stage within the opulence of Riyadh, which is teetering towards a monopoly on heavyweight extravaganzas. Next up it is a rejuvenated AJ, and a heavy-hitting collision with further potential to shudder the world's heavyweight narratives. Ngannou has become a coveted, lucrative disruptor as the global attraction against whom a convincing win now holds far more weight for Joshua than it might have this time last year.

Ngannou's story began as a child in the village of Batie in Cameroon, hopping around the houses of relatives and aspiring to create his own path away from his father's reputation as a ruthless street fighter. He spent time living with his grandmother in a packed household, and found himself unable to afford food or equipment for school as well as working in a sand mine for £1.50 a day from the age of 10, the toll of which would help carve his dwarfing fighter's physique.

Amid it all he garnered an obsession for America and the prospect of a life in America by way of rare opportunities to watch US shows and music videos on the television. He would become known around the village as 'Francisco', and then 'San Francisco'. Ngannou believed he could make it there; others turned their nose up at a pipe dream.

Ngannou trained in a local gym with dreams of emulating his idol Mike Tyson, who some thousands of miles away was on the road to becoming world heavyweight champion as one of the fiercest fighters boxing had witnessed; the pair have since worked together as trainer and fighter in something of an impossible full circle union.

Come 2012, a 25-year-old Ngannou made the decision to embark on a journey to Europe in a bid to secure a better future for him and his family. A 3,000-mile trek from Cameroon to Morocco began.

Ngannou hitch-hiked, trudged through forests and mountains and travelled across the Sahara desert in a pick-up truck with 25 others amid visa trouble while moving from Niger to Algeria. He would find shelter in the woods and look through bins for scraps of food, with rats his main competition. Upon reaching Morocco he swerved detection in a bid to keep his journey in tact, the next stage of which was plotting a way to Spain.

Ngannou, not knowing how to swim, attempted to cross the Mediterranean in an inflatable dingy better-suited to a leisure pool, being halted three times by the Moroccan coast guard and each time being dropped off possession-less in the Western Sahara. He had secured a fake passport that allowed him to pose as a Senegalese international, before three more attempts to cross were also thwarted.

His next effort entailed meticulous planning and research as he sought to perfect the weather and timing to his seventh round with the Med. Finally, his break came.

Leading a group of others searching for similar salvation, Ngannou rowed gently into the night before reaching a point in the Strait of Gibraltar where the Red Cross would be on hand to take him and his followers onwards to safety. From there he was transported to Spain, where another delay awaited as he was forced to spend two months in an immigration-detention centre. He had been in worse conditions during his 14-month mission. This was just the latest bump in the road.

Finally, it was onto Paris. A lonely Ngannou endured another stint of living on the streets, but would still boast the towering stature garnered through years of working in the sand mines as he wandered into a local gym seeking a place to channel his world champion ambitions. He was greeted by coach Didier Carmont, who helped Ngannou find a place to live as well as allowing him to train for free and, crucially, turning him to Mixed Martial Arts. Ngannou wanted to be a boxing champion, but in MMA he found a natural home.

As the gym closed for the summer, Ngannou eventually came across Fernand Lopez and the MMA Factory. Cue the beginning of his journey towards UFC heavyweight glory.

He would go 5-1 to start his MMA career while primarily competing in the French promotion '100 per cent Fight', before knocking out Luis Henrique in the second round of his UFC debut in December 2015 and winning six straight fights to set up a title shot against Stipe Miocic.

A unanimous decision loss to the MMA great was followed by another to Derrick Lewis, prompting a six-fight win streak in retaliation that would include a knockout revenge victory over Miocic to become heavyweight champion of the world in 2021 and a commanding unanimous decision win over Ciryl Gane the next year. The unlikely but ever so likely champion who had found his calling as a Cameroonian sporting icon, his ascent as which has enabled him to launch a Foundation in aid of offering young people educational resources and a safe space to train back home.

He had conquered the United States, as he always believed he would. Born in Batie, crowned in Las Vegas. Owner of the hardest recorded punch in history, and the quintessential rags-to-riches face of combat theatre, whose cinematic credentials even landed him a cameo in the ninth edition of the Fast and Furious movie franchise. Ngannou was the sovereign of his own future, from guiding others to freedom across the Mediterranean to making the decision to walk away from the UFC when his terms over a new deal were not met.

Ngannou wanted to go back to where it all began. He wanted to box like the kid from Batie. Suddenly he was fighting one of the greatest heavyweights of his generation: Fury saw a bumper purse, an easily-billed battle of crossover brawn and another branch to his rollercoaster legacy; Ngannou saw opportunity.

One thumping left hook and 10 solid rounds later and he had lifted eyebrows around the boxing world. As a result, Friday's clash with Joshua resembles some kind of normality. It isn't normal. Nothing about the Ngannou story is normal. And yet, his frequent encounters with the abnormal considered, victory might yet be normal.

Ngannou wasn't supposed to be here. The plan didn't account for it. But one of sport's great underdog epics returns to centre stage this weekend, armed with fists of fury and plans for narrative-ripping carnage in mind.

Anthony Joshua's heavyweight showdown with Francis Ngannou takes place on Friday March 8, live on Sky Sports Box Office with the main event expected around 11pm.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/boxi...171b1e4&ei=324

[TIC]

weights
anthony joshua 252-4
francis ngannou 272.6

zhilei zhang 291.6
joseph parker 247.6

rey vargas 125
nick ball 126

israil madrimov 153.6
magomed kurbanov 153.6

justis huni 243.2
kevin lerena 232.4 (kevin's mother just passed away, fight will still go on)