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    Default Re: Where does Tyson Fury rank in the Greatest Heavyweight list?

    He is without doubt the best fighter of this HW generation as you say.

    You can only beat the guys from your era and he only needs beat Usyk now to underline this era - if AJ does beat Usyk in rematch (doubtful) then he could take that fight but that is imo an easy night's work.

    People will point to the quality of opposition but what can he do about that.

    He's odds on to retire with the '0' intact. A prestigious club indeed
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    Default Re: Where does Tyson Fury rank in the Greatest Heavyweight list?

    Eddie Hearn suggests Anthony Joshua has had better career than Tyson Fury

    Matchroom Boxing boss Hearn - who Fury called after his win - has compared the key wins of 'The Gypsy King' and Joshua. Hearn listed Wladimir Klitschko, Deontay Wilder, Derek Chisora, Otto Wallin and Whyte as the best wins throughout Fury's 14-year professional career.

    Comparing that list to Joshua's, Hearn listed the key wins of his Matchroom posterboy which included Klitschko, Whyte, Joseph Parker, Alexander Povetkin, Andy Ruiz Jr and Kubrat Pulev.

    In arguably the best win of both of their careers, Fury ended Klitschko's 20 fight unbeaten run that spanned over a decade when he beat the Ukrainian in 2015. Fury won the unified titles with the win as Klitschko was outpointed for the first time in his professional career.

    Two years later Joshua had his chance against 'Dr Steelhammer' in front of 90,000 fans at Wembley. 'AJ' remained unbeaten and did what Fury couldn't, knocking out Klitschko to win the vacant heavyweight belts. Klitschko announced his retirement after the loss.

    Fury knocked out Deontay Wilder twice after fighting to a controversial draw with the hard-hitting American in their first meeting. A fight between Joshua and Wilder has been called upon in the past, but the pair are yet to meet in the ring.

    Both men now have wins over Whyte, but Joshua has defeated one more former champion than Fury has. 'AJ' looks to become a three-time champion as he is pencilled in to rematch Oleksandr Usyk in July.

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    Default Re: Where does Tyson Fury rank in the Greatest Heavyweight list?

    You could defo say he's had the better career in terms of beating top ten opponents and pay days and endorsements - no doubt about it.

    But unless AJ beats Fury in the ring - very very doubtful - those in the know will always rank him a rung or two below Fury in terms of his fighting ability. David Haye would no doubt rank AJ as better than Fury and predicting he'd beat Fury by KO in round 2.

    I remember Khan once stupidly saying re Brook let's compare bank accounts and see who the superstar is. Very true in terms of bank accounts he was way ahead - in the ring however.

    They will milk the 3 time world champion thing if he beats Usyk in a rematch - which actually means he's lost the title twice......
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    Default Re: Where does Tyson Fury rank in the Greatest Heavyweight list?

    Is this what it’s come to? A win against Dillian Whyte (a fight he should win) now elevates you to the extent that people consider your ATG Credentials. Neither Fury nor AJ will ever be considered anywhere near those conversations, because there’s not enough quality in the division.
    But the one I feel sorry for is Usyk. He could beat Fury , AJ and Uncle Tom Cobley, but he will still never be in the shake up.
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    Default Re: Where does Tyson Fury rank in the Greatest Heavyweight list?

    If he officially goes out on Whyte and swerves Usyk OR AJ winner well, he'll be an extremely talented chump for me. He doesn't get to assume the era gold standard if he fails to fully unify (funny how post fight it was hardly mentioned) and takes all comers. Reevaluate a 39 year old Wlad and wins over a big puncher who had glaring flaws and a ticking time clock to be comprehensively outboxed. Clearly I think Fury has the fluidity, boxing IQ, size, unapproachable confidence and resiliency to give near every top all time fighters shit fits and could surprise a couple. Very interesting hypotheticals for sure but on legacy, comp and accomplishment I cannot see him top 10. Is Fury closer to Holmes than any other great?

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    Default Re: Where does Tyson Fury rank in the Greatest Heavyweight list?

    Regardless of what he says I don't see any way he avoids the AJ / Usyk winner.

    It would also be a new low for boxing if they fail to be able to make this match up happen post rematch. Nothing would surprise me.

    Even if he wins that yep it's difficult to rank him all time - none of his peers will be in that top ten either so what does he do?

    Spic is right he'd give any ATG problems because of his attributes.

    I have him beating Holyfield, Frazier, Dempsey, Marciano. Mike would have to KO him within 4 then things would get interesting. I see Lewis and Foreman beating him inside the distance as they had the size to neutralize his.

    Ali would win lopsided UD.

    So all in all maybe I do make him an ATG
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    Default Re: Where does Tyson Fury rank in the Greatest Heavyweight list?

    I think there is a difference between ‘greatest’ and ‘best’ ….. Ali transcended the sport like nobody before or since and fought the toughest contenders ever seen, Louis made 25 defences of the Undisputed title, Foreman was in his forties when he won it back, Marciano won 49 in a row. Fury’s achievements are impressive but not quite in that league yet.

    As for ‘best’, would Fury be competitive in the ring with all of them - yep!
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