Where does Tyson Fury rank in the Greatest Heavyweight list?

[Mark TKO]

You could defo say he's had the better career in terms of beating top ten opponents and pay days and endorsements - no doubt about it.

But unless AJ beats Fury in the ring - very very doubtful - those in the know will always rank him a rung or two below Fury in terms of his fighting ability. David Haye would no doubt rank AJ as better than Fury and predicting he'd beat Fury by KO in round 2.

I remember Khan once stupidly saying re Brook let's compare bank accounts and see who the superstar is. Very true in terms of bank accounts he was way ahead - in the ring however.

They will milk the 3 time world champion thing if he beats Usyk in a rematch - which actually means he's lost the title twice......

[Primo Carnera]

Is this what it’s come to? A win against Dillian Whyte (a fight he should win) now elevates you to the extent that people consider your ATG Credentials. Neither Fury nor AJ will ever be considered anywhere near those conversations, because there’s not enough quality in the division.
But the one I feel sorry for is Usyk. He could beat Fury , AJ and Uncle Tom Cobley, but he will still never be in the shake up.

[Spicoli]

If he officially goes out on Whyte and swerves Usyk OR AJ winner well, he'll be an extremely talented chump for me. He doesn't get to assume the era gold standard if he fails to fully unify (funny how post fight it was hardly mentioned) and takes all comers. Reevaluate a 39 year old Wlad and wins over a big puncher who had glaring flaws and a ticking time clock to be comprehensively outboxed. Clearly I think Fury has the fluidity, boxing IQ, size, unapproachable confidence and resiliency to give near every top all time fighters shit fits and could surprise a couple. Very interesting hypotheticals for sure but on legacy, comp and accomplishment I cannot see him top 10. Is Fury closer to Holmes than any other great?

[Mark TKO]

Regardless of what he says I don't see any way he avoids the AJ / Usyk winner.

It would also be a new low for boxing if they fail to be able to make this match up happen post rematch. Nothing would surprise me.

Even if he wins that yep it's difficult to rank him all time - none of his peers will be in that top ten either so what does he do?

Spic is right he'd give any ATG problems because of his attributes.

I have him beating Holyfield, Frazier, Dempsey, Marciano. Mike would have to KO him within 4 then things would get interesting. I see Lewis and Foreman beating him inside the distance as they had the size to neutralize his.

Ali would win lopsided UD.

So all in all maybe I do make him an ATG

[X]

I think there is a difference between ‘greatest’ and ‘best’ ….. Ali transcended the sport like nobody before or since and fought the toughest contenders ever seen, Louis made 25 defences of the Undisputed title, Foreman was in his forties when he won it back, Marciano won 49 in a row. Fury’s achievements are impressive but not quite in that league yet.

As for ‘best’, would Fury be competitive in the ring with all of them - yep!

[Memphis]

Fury is the number one in the division. I think that's only fair and right. But for me the credit he's getting is outweighing what he's actually done. Wlad, Wilder, Whyte. Those are the highlights. Massive props to him for coming back from what he came back from, but it doesn't elevate his in ring achievements. As Primo said you don't get your named mentioned amongst the greats of the sport by beating Dillian Whyte.

He needs to fight and beat the Usyk Joshua winner to be considered the best of the era. Then if you're a glutton for punishment with lots of spare time. Go ahead and discuss his all time standing.

[Mark TKO]

Just reading Doug Fischers thoughts in the Ring Online how Fury would do against the ATGs.

I've cut and pasted the relevant part here. Again, just one man's opinion.

Fury vs Jack Johnson – Fury by close decision (in a bout scheduled for 10-to-15-rounds; if it the fight distance is 20 rounds or more, I’ve going with Li’l Arthur)

Fury vs Jack Dempsey – Fury by unanimous decision or late stoppage (but I think Dempsey has a shot at catching him in the early rounds)

Fury vs Joe Louis – Fury by close decision (but I think he has to survive some wobbly moments and maybe a knockdown)

Fury vs Rocky Marciano – Fury by late stoppage

Fury vs Sonny Liston – Liston by close decision (thanks to a knockdown or two)

Fury vs Muhammad Ali – Ali by unanimous decision

Fury vs Joe Frazier – Frazier by close decision

Fury vs George Foreman – Fury by close decision (but Big George, of course, has a real shot at clipping the Gypsy King)

Fury vs Larry Holmes – Holmes by unanimous decision

Fury vs Mike Tyson – Fury by unanimous decision (but just like Dempsey, Iron Mike has a real shot at ending the fight early)

Fury vs Evander Holyfield – Fury by close, maybe majority or split decision in a great fight

Fury vs Riddick Bowe – Big Daddy by close decision in a great fight

Fury vs Lennox Lewis – Lewis by unanimous decision

Fury vs Vitali Klitchsko – Klitschko by close decision in a mutually punishing fight