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    Default Re: NOW can we stop the disrespect on Crawford and put him at #1 p4p?

    Can't stand peoples P4P lists! Who give's a shit? Just make the Crawford-Spence fight and we'll get an answer to who's best in the division!
    Easy!

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    Default Re: NOW can we stop the disrespect on Crawford and put him at #1 p4p?

    canelo is still ahead of terence
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    Default Re: NOW can we stop the disrespect on Crawford and put him at #1 p4p?

    P4P is possibly the worst of the myriad of lists. You only need to look at the justification for Fury's inclusion.

    Household name. Mental health. Greatest heavyweights of all time?! Looks destined to regain them (other belts) and reign as undisputed champion.

    Being a household name is very nice. Did Frank Bruno ever breach the P4P list? Overcoming mental demons. All power to him. The rest is pure speculation.

    If he wasn't P4P in 2019 he shouldn't be now. Because he sincerely hasn't done anything since to elevate his position.
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    Default Re: NOW can we stop the disrespect on Crawford and put him at #1 p4p?

    The best pound for pound boxer to me means the best fighter today who could beat anyone if they took their proportionate size, power, and stature and applied it to them taking on any other opponent at any other weight class.

    The best pound for pound fighter would also have to be the best or undisputed at their weight and/or won titles at different weight classes.

    Using this definition Tyson Fury would not even be considered.

    I would not penalise Canelo for taking on someone at a higher weight but would penalise Spence for not proving he is the best at his own weight.

    Crawford has won titles at the lower weights, but it is getting to the stage were he has had enough time to take on Spence.

    Also just because Bivol beats Canelo he does not take his place, p4p does not work like that. Bivol needs to beat Beterbiev to be on the list.

    1. Usyk
    2. Canelo
    3. Terrence Crawford
    4. Naoya Inoue
    5. Josh Taylor
    6. Juan Francisco Estrada
    7. Jermell Charlo
    8. Lomachenko
    9. Shakur Stevenson
    10. George Kambosos Jr
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    Default Re: NOW can we stop the disrespect on Crawford and put him at #1 p4p?

    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    The best pound for pound boxer to me means the best fighter today who could beat anyone if they took their proportionate size, power, and stature and applied it to them taking on any other opponent at any other weight class.

    The best pound for pound fighter would also have to be the best or undisputed at their weight and/or won titles at different weight classes.

    Using this definition Tyson Fury would not even be considered.

    I would not penalise Canelo for taking on someone at a higher weight but would penalise Spence for not proving he is the best at his own weight.

    Crawford has won titles at the lower weights, but it is getting to the stage were he has had enough time to take on Spence.

    Also just because Bivol beats Canelo he does not take his place, p4p does not work like that. Bivol needs to beat Beterbiev to be on the list.

    1. Usyk
    2. Canelo
    3. Terrence Crawford
    4. Naoya Inoue
    5. Josh Taylor
    6. Juan Francisco Estrada
    7. Jermell Charlo
    8. Lomachenko
    9. Shakur Stevenson
    10. George Kambosos Jr
    josh shouldn't be on there
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    Default Re: NOW can we stop the disrespect on Crawford and put him at #1 p4p?

    Josh is undisputed at the weight and still remains undefeated. One bad fight should not take away all the good work he has done in his career.
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    Default Re: NOW can we stop the disrespect on Crawford and put him at #1 p4p?

    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Josh is undisputed at the weight and still remains undefeated. One bad fight should not take away all the good work he has done in his career.
    One question. If Catterall was given the decision, would you still be ok with Josh Taylor at #5 ?
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    Default Re: NOW can we stop the disrespect on Crawford and put him at #1 p4p?

    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Josh is undisputed at the weight and still remains undefeated. One bad fight should not take away all the good work he has done in his career.
    i thought he lost to jack. not to pick on your list it is nowhere as bad as terence, errol & tyson but do you consider inactivity? el gallo has been out a minute & i thought he lost to chocolatito
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