Joe Joyce v Christian Hammer

[Master]

Joe Joyce was the big lad from the Rio Olympics in the super-heavyweight final. The nice guy, the smiling guy with the art degree and the tasteful little bit of capoeira at the end of each win.

He lost a tight decision, never made a fuss, turned professional, beat good men, forced Daniel Dubois to take a knee, trained in Las Vegas and has become the most avoided heavyweight in the sport right now. Rio seems like a long, long time ago.

Right now, Joyce is unbeaten in 13 fights as a professional; he is ranked and rated by the boxing insiders, outsiders, fixers, shakers and connoisseurs. And, most of the sanctioning bodies.

Joyce is now 36, a late bloomer even at heavyweight in a business where youth can be a big handicap. The years are misleading; Joyce is fresh and ready.

At the moment, Joyce is arguably the fifth or sixth best heavyweight in the world and undoubtedly the most avoided. Nobody talks trash and wants to fight Joyce and lose their position. Joyce, it has to be said, never talks trash about anybody; Joyce would fight anybody.

On Saturday, Joyce fights a man called Christian Hammer, who has tested his chin, heart and bravery against some of the finest in the division. Hammer has lost nine times to some big names in big fights; Tyson Fury stopped him in 2015, Alexander Povetkin outpointed him in 2017. He is, however, more than just a loser; Hammer can extend good boxers, make them work the distance and that is why Joyce is fighting him. Joyce has to do a better job than some of the other contenders that have beaten Hammer. Boxing, as I always say, is a simple business to understand. There is very little actual science in the game, but there are certain measures that we like to parade as solid fact.

Earlier this year, Hammer lost on points over ten rounds to the Cuban, Frankie Sanchez, known in boxing as the Cuban Flash. Sanchez is listed as 29, but he must have had a very hard paper-round. It was not much of a spectacle and Sanchez, who was fresh from an easy win over the hyped and limited, Efe Ajagbu, was being touted as the “most avoided heavyweight” in the sport. Rubbish, by the way. Sanchez is big and slow and well-schooled and he beat the previously unbeaten Ajagbu easily.

So, on Saturday, Joyce has to do a better job than Sanchez. It really is that easy – there are no hidden equations to factor in; Joyce has to get Hammer out of there fast and easy and painfully. Simple, bosh.
“I just get in there and take care of the business I have to take care of,” Joyce said. “I will keep winning and I will get a title chance.”

Joyce’s heavyweight landscape is complicated by the transitory state of Tyson Fury, who in the last few days has confirmed that he will both never fight again and that he will also announce his next fight in the coming few weeks. Bob Arum, meanwhile, is Fury’s promoter in the US and he announced at the end of last week that Joyce against Fury in October at Wembley Stadium was possible. How do you plan a career with that much misleading mayhem circling above your head?

In August, Oleksandr Usyk and Anthony Joshua have their rematch in Saudi Arabia and that means the three belts they will fight over are out of bounds for a few months. Joyce is a mandatory for the WBO, but that really doesn’t mean that much when massively financial fights are being arranged. Joyce is mandated to fight the winner of the August 20th fight between Usyk and Joshua.

The sanctioning bodies are paid a percentage of what the fight is worth and not a set fee per fight. So, the Saudi affair is a glorious earner for the three sanctioning bodies and one that they would all be prepared to change their rules to make happen yet again. Joyce being a mandatory sounds nice, but in the real world it means very little.

Joyce will win on Saturday, look good doing it and convince a lot more people that he is a genuine contender. He will also convince a lot more managers and promoters that he is a man to be avoided. It might just be a long, long wait before Joyce gets his chance at a world heavyweight title. He would handily beat just about every fighter in the division and that is what makes him the most avoided heavyweight in the world right now.
Big Joe would give Usyk, Joshua and even Fury a headache on any given night. He will, instead, just have to keep waiting patiently for what he has been promised. His promoter, Frank Warren, understands the boxing waiting game. They will not be holding their breath anytime soon waiting on a dream. Big Joe will do a good job on Hammer at Wembley on Saturday to get closer to something.

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[Spicoli]

What happened to Parker . Definitely a 'stay busy' fight with Hammer feels like Joyce is being screwed over and he's about to turn 37. Does Dubois not want to get some pay back?

[Master]

What happened to Parker . Definitely a 'stay busy' fight with Hammer feels like Joyce is being screwed over and he's about to turn 37. Does Dubois not want to get some pay back?

Parker ducked and chickened out of the fight. He is pretending he wants to face Joyce but he is not good enough and making money with the Sky promoter, facing lesser opponents.

Dubois is not ready for the top fighters yet but he is young enough to learn.

Joyce did have a hand injury so this is testing the injury, getting some rounds in and Hammer is a decent opponent for a late replacement.

[Master]

Tete knocks out Cunningham brutally. Thankfully he is ok.

[Master]

Joyce taking too many punches but just walking through them to beat Hammer. He knocked Hammer down in the 4th round and stops him in the 5th with 3 knock downs to the body.

Joyce is not skilled and very raw but too big and strong for most heavyweights today.

[Master]

ANTHONY JOSHUA has warned friend-turned-foe Joe Joyce to forget about their potential fight — and just worry about flogging todger trimmers!

Watford ace AJ, 32, is trying to focus on an August 20 rematch with WBA, IBF and WBO champion Oleksandr Usyk, 35, but has caught wind of his old Team GB sparring partner’s prickly taunts.

The usually reserved Joyce, 36, has labelled AJ a chinny businessman who got lucky at the Olympics and needs a miracle to beat the Ukraine southpaw.

Joshua hit back after spotting a June social media advert by the Juggernaut for electric trimmers.

Joshua, who is sponsored by Lucozade and Hugo Boss, said: “We’re all trying to promote something and be businessmen — he’s promoting balls trimmers, I don’t.

“What’s good for him is not for me. I don’t cuss him for it so he needs to just focus on himself.”

Joyce feels AJ got a few hometown decisions on his way to London 2012 gold and fast-tracked to a world title, while he had to chip away after disputed judging at Rio 2016 left him with a silver.

The Putney star has shown a freakishly tough chin to be WBO No 1 but AJ says it is his sharp tongue that has put him on his hit list.

He said: “I definitely don’t have a chin like Joe Joyce and I definitely wouldn’t want to take the punches he takes either.

“But good luck to him. He’s on my hit list but all in good time, he’ll get what’s coming to him.

“I think he needs the fight because he’s older. He’s had 13 fights, I was looking at his record and it’s not much, is it? So I think he needs it.”

If Joyce does get a shot at AJ, he will have the Baddest Man on the Planet to thank.

Joshua said: “Prize- fighting is about honouring your brothers in the sport, giving them an opportunity to make a living — that’s what the great Mike Tyson said.

“It’s what prize-fighting is about and, if I live by what my icons told me, 100 per cent I’ll give Joe a chance.”

AJ has axed long-time mentor Rob McCracken for the Jeddah rematch with Usyk and replaced him with Mexican- American Robert Garcia.

So Tyson Fury’s offer to train him for the £100million clash has been firmly blanked.

The undefeated WBC heavyweight champ, 33, insists he is retired but he is training twice a day and expected to race into a fight with the winner of AJ and Usyk’s sequel.

Joshua said: “He’s an interesting character but I wouldn’t take his help.

“I’ve done my thing, he’s done his and good luck to him now.”

And with the chance to teach Fury a lesson if he reclaims his world titles next month, AJ added: “He will come back for sure and if he wants the fight, then it’s on.

“It is not up to us, as he has got to make that decision for him.

“But I’m sure he will fight again.”

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[TIC]

that zolani knockout was bonza. joe just keeps coming

[Denilson3.0]

A black heavyweight batters white heavyweight. Ain’t seen that for while. AJ you watching ? Been used to seeing Fury smacking around black fighters and b4 him Wlad n Vitali.

Canelo ? Never mind blk fighters, he doesn’t even wanna fight his own Latino fighters, strictly white euros n white Americans for him these days.

[TIC]

A black heavyweight batters white heavyweight. Ain’t seen that for while. AJ you watching ? Been used to seeing Fury smacking around black fighters and b4 him Wlad n Vitali.

Canelo ? Never mind blk fighters, he doesn’t even wanna fight his own Latino fighters, strictly white euros n white Americans for him these days.

only racists concern themselves with colour

[Master]

Frank Sanchez says Joe Joyce is 'too slow' to threaten his world title ambitions and believes a fight with the British heavyweight is inevitable.

Joyce cemented his position as the No 1 challenger for the WBO title with a fourth-round stoppage of Christian Hammer on Saturday night.

But Sanchez looms large as a potential opponent, sitting at No 3 in the WBO rankings, and has dismissed the threat posed by 'Juggernaut' Joyce.

"Joe Joyce and I will cross paths 100 per cent, there is no question about that. The only question is will it be this year or next year," Sanchez told Sky Sports.

"The Joyce fight will look very similar to [Efe] Ajagba. He is very big and strong, but too slow for me, slower than Ajagba. He will be no problem for me."

The Cuban floored Efe Ajagba in a masterful points win last October, then dropped Hammer while earning a unanimous decision in his most recent victory in January.

All of Sanchez's fights have been based in America, but he is open to facing Joyce in the UK.

"We will see. I have faith in my team to handle the the business side," said Sanchez, who is co-managed by Mike Borao and Lupe Valencia.

"I am now preparing for a fight at the end of August with Joe Goosen on PBC. PBC have been loyal in my corner and I see a big future with them and Al Haymon.

"If the right opportunity presents itself, let's say for a WBO world title, I have no problem going to the UK to fight Joyce, but we will see what the future brings.

"The only thing I know is by next year I will have a world championship, of this I am certain."

Joyce has voiced his desire to challenge the winner when Oleksandr Usyk defends his WBO, IBF and WBA titles in next month's rematch with Anthony Joshua in Jeddah.

"What a performance, I enjoyed it so much," Joyce said. "I'm top-level ready for the world stage.

"I'm ready for all-comers and I'm looking to fight the winner of AJ-Usyk, maybe Tyson Fury. I'm at that level."

Joseph Parker, ranked at No 2 by the WBO, says he remains eager to share the ring with Joyce.

"The fight with Joe Joyce is a fight I'd love to make. But do you know what it comes down to? It comes down to egos. I know I've signed with BOXXER and Sky and Joyce is with BT and Frank Warren, but why can't we make it happen?" Parker said.

"There's many examples of other fighters that are signed with this team and signed with [another] team, they all come together and make it happen. Why can't we make it happen? It's a great fight.

"Why don't we lock it in and actually fight?"

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