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    Default Re: Ryan Garcia v Javier Fortuna

    I wouldn't fancy him against Davis at all. Can't see Oscar wanting to make the fight either. At some point they're going to have to let him fight somebody elite but as long as their streamer keeps paying for and they can selll lots of tickets for fights below that level they'll keep making them.

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    Default Re: Ryan Garcia v Javier Fortuna

    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    I wouldn't fancy him against Davis at all. Can't see Oscar wanting to make the fight either. At some point they're going to have to let him fight somebody elite but as long as their streamer keeps paying for and they can selll lots of tickets for fights below that level they'll keep making them.
    I would think any one of them jumps at a Tank fight. It’s their only route to PPV. And Tank wants the easiest fight with the biggest name, Garcia. And GBP I assume knows Garcia’s name is bigger than his game. So take the big money before the bubble bursts. Their each other’s easiest biggest option

    But I’ve never bought the “we can make X fight anytime so let’s milk the crowd first”. Because things can go sideways real quick.

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    Default Re: Ryan Garcia v Javier Fortuna

    king ry still needs to work on his head & foot movement. i hope they keep him active. i was impressed by oscar collazo. i also thought ricardo sandoval was robbed
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    Default Re: Ryan Garcia v Javier Fortuna

    Garcia has a good left hook with his fast hands. Fortuna got paid well for the beating he took

    Jimenez v Sandoval was a close and entertaining contest but no robbery.

    Was Oscar's son on the undercard?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Swanson View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    I wouldn't fancy him against Davis at all. Can't see Oscar wanting to make the fight either. At some point they're going to have to let him fight somebody elite but as long as their streamer keeps paying for and they can selll lots of tickets for fights below that level they'll keep making them.
    I would think any one of them jumps at a Tank fight. It’s their only route to PPV. And Tank wants the easiest fight with the biggest name, Garcia. And GBP I assume knows Garcia’s name is bigger than his game. So take the big money before the bubble bursts. Their each other’s easiest biggest option

    But I’ve never bought the “we can make X fight anytime so let’s milk the crowd first”. Because things can go sideways real quick.


    At what weight? Garcia wants to drag Tank to 140, where he'll have the obvious advantage. A very familiar M.O.

    Garcia is swearing off 135, while Tank IMO has no business at 140.

    So maybe Garcia should set his sights on elite fighters at 140. But he seems fixated on Tank.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    I wouldn't fancy him against Davis at all. Can't see Oscar wanting to make the fight either. At some point they're going to have to let him fight somebody elite but as long as their streamer keeps paying for and they can selll lots of tickets for fights below that level they'll keep making them.
    I would think any one of them jumps at a Tank fight. It’s their only route to PPV. And Tank wants the easiest fight with the biggest name, Garcia. And GBP I assume knows Garcia’s name is bigger than his game. So take the big money before the bubble bursts. Their each other’s easiest biggest option

    But I’ve never bought the “we can make X fight anytime so let’s milk the crowd first”. Because things can go sideways real quick.


    At what weight? Garcia wants to drag Tank to 140, where he'll have the obvious advantage. A very familiar M.O.

    Garcia is swearing off 135, while Tank IMO has no business at 140.

    So maybe Garcia should set his sights on elite fighters at 140. But he seems fixated on Tank.
    tank has already been to one forty, even won a belt there. king ry wouldn't be dragging tank anywhere. king ry v tank is a big ppv fight but i don't see it happening next. king ry v jojo is more the like
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    Quote Originally Posted by TIC View Post
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    I wouldn't fancy him against Davis at all. Can't see Oscar wanting to make the fight either. At some point they're going to have to let him fight somebody elite but as long as their streamer keeps paying for and they can selll lots of tickets for fights below that level they'll keep making them.
    I would think any one of them jumps at a Tank fight. It’s their only route to PPV. And Tank wants the easiest fight with the biggest name, Garcia. And GBP I assume knows Garcia’s name is bigger than his game. So take the big money before the bubble bursts. Their each other’s easiest biggest option

    But I’ve never bought the “we can make X fight anytime so let’s milk the crowd first”. Because things can go sideways real quick.


    At what weight? Garcia wants to drag Tank to 140, where he'll have the obvious advantage. A very familiar M.O.

    Garcia is swearing off 135, while Tank IMO has no business at 140.

    So maybe Garcia should set his sights on elite fighters at 140. But he seems fixated on Tank.
    tank has already been to one forty, even won a belt there. king ry wouldn't be dragging tank anywhere. king ry v tank is a big ppv fight but i don't see it happening next. king ry v jojo is more the like

    Right.

    One whole fight.

    Hell of a sample size.

    We all know Tank's weight is south of 140.

    Pauper Ry can conveniently avoid Tank because he's already claimed he doesn't want to fight him at 135.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    I wouldn't fancy him against Davis at all. Can't see Oscar wanting to make the fight either. At some point they're going to have to let him fight somebody elite but as long as their streamer keeps paying for and they can selll lots of tickets for fights below that level they'll keep making them.
    I would think any one of them jumps at a Tank fight. It’s their only route to PPV. And Tank wants the easiest fight with the biggest name, Garcia. And GBP I assume knows Garcia’s name is bigger than his game. So take the big money before the bubble bursts. Their each other’s easiest biggest option

    But I’ve never bought the “we can make X fight anytime so let’s milk the crowd first”. Because things can go sideways real quick.


    At what weight? Garcia wants to drag Tank to 140, where he'll have the obvious advantage. A very familiar M.O.

    Garcia is swearing off 135, while Tank IMO has no business at 140.

    So maybe Garcia should set his sights on elite fighters at 140. But he seems fixated on Tank.
    tank has already been to one forty, even won a belt there. king ry wouldn't be dragging tank anywhere. king ry v tank is a big ppv fight but i don't see it happening next. king ry v jojo is more the like

    Right.

    One whole fight.

    Hell of a sample size.

    We all know Tank's weight is south of 140.

    Pauper Ry can conveniently avoid Tank because he's already claimed he doesn't want to fight him at 135.
    tank has already fought at one forty & won a belt there. sample size is all you. king ry has only fought there twice & it sounds like it was javier's team that requested this fight at the higher weight. if king ry wants to stay at one forty now then that's up to him & his team. i'd prefer tank to rematch isaac cruz anyway
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    Quote Originally Posted by TIC View Post
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    I wouldn't fancy him against Davis at all. Can't see Oscar wanting to make the fight either. At some point they're going to have to let him fight somebody elite but as long as their streamer keeps paying for and they can selll lots of tickets for fights below that level they'll keep making them.
    I would think any one of them jumps at a Tank fight. It’s their only route to PPV. And Tank wants the easiest fight with the biggest name, Garcia. And GBP I assume knows Garcia’s name is bigger than his game. So take the big money before the bubble bursts. Their each other’s easiest biggest option

    But I’ve never bought the “we can make X fight anytime so let’s milk the crowd first”. Because things can go sideways real quick.


    At what weight? Garcia wants to drag Tank to 140, where he'll have the obvious advantage. A very familiar M.O.

    Garcia is swearing off 135, while Tank IMO has no business at 140.

    So maybe Garcia should set his sights on elite fighters at 140. But he seems fixated on Tank.
    tank has already been to one forty, even won a belt there. king ry wouldn't be dragging tank anywhere. king ry v tank is a big ppv fight but i don't see it happening next. king ry v jojo is more the like

    Right.

    One whole fight.

    Hell of a sample size.

    We all know Tank's weight is south of 140.

    Pauper Ry can conveniently avoid Tank because he's already claimed he doesn't want to fight him at 135.
    tank has already fought at one forty & won a belt there. sample size is all you. king ry has only fought there twice & it sounds like it was javier's team that requested this fight at the higher weight. if king ry wants to stay at one forty now then that's up to him & his team. i'd prefer tank to rematch isaac cruz anyway

    So we agree then, that the Pauper insists on fighting Tank at 140 because he knows he'll get steamrollered at 135.

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    Default Re: Ryan Garcia v Javier Fortuna

    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Swanson View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    I wouldn't fancy him against Davis at all. Can't see Oscar wanting to make the fight either. At some point they're going to have to let him fight somebody elite but as long as their streamer keeps paying for and they can selll lots of tickets for fights below that level they'll keep making them.
    I would think any one of them jumps at a Tank fight. It’s their only route to PPV. And Tank wants the easiest fight with the biggest name, Garcia. And GBP I assume knows Garcia’s name is bigger than his game. So take the big money before the bubble bursts. Their each other’s easiest biggest option

    But I’ve never bought the “we can make X fight anytime so let’s milk the crowd first”. Because things can go sideways real quick.

    Things can indeed go sideways but when you have somebody who sells tickets but isn't quite elite level the milking thing is normally what happens. Better to do that than one payday and the bubble bursts, it's the percentage play. Davis is a Showtime fighter and they apparently have no interest in doing a joint PPV with DAZN and I'm sure it's the same with DAZN so Garcia knows he can make his mouth go knowing any negotiations fall apart quite quickly and he never actually has to fight Davis.

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    Default Re: Ryan Garcia v Javier Fortuna

    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    I wouldn't fancy him against Davis at all. Can't see Oscar wanting to make the fight either. At some point they're going to have to let him fight somebody elite but as long as their streamer keeps paying for and they can selll lots of tickets for fights below that level they'll keep making them.
    Thinking the same v Tank and it just feels a little meek the way Ryan just up and bolted 135. But if he wants to hang his hat on the scalps of Luke Campbell and a crested and bloated Fortuna then I guess he'll have to walk that walk. Tank v Garcia isn't just going to fall off the tree this year, tons of work to do if they're sincere about it. That's if Oscar doesn't have a heart attack first when Garcia says he's going to "record all negotiations" .

    Good on him finally getting back and taking Fortuna out clean. But imho I think he's regressed defensively and he doesn't seem to have natural fluidity. Walk on, head high, sets up for 1-2 maybe 3 and then does that straight line back out. Everything is done in 1+1+1 broken sections..not naturally combined so much. I think Tank sparks him.

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