Today In Biden Land

**Kirkland Laing** · 07-28-2022 06:25 AM

Originally Posted by palmerq

Manchin, in Reversal, Agrees to Quick Action on Climate and Tax Plan https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/27/u...JVMySzGn7AdGdY

@Master can you fix the link for me?.

What's going on here munchkin now agrees to a climate plan and tax increases...maybe they're going to start painting coal green?

" But that legislation still needs to clear the House, and Republican leaders in that chamber said they would instruct their ranks to oppose it after news of the deal."

.... Good for the Americans that republicans plan to block the bill to increase competitivity with china, who wants to compete with them anyway.....

"That could ease the way for a project in which Mr. Manchin has taken a personal interest, the Mountain Valley Pipeline, which would transport Appalachian shale gas from West Virginia to Virginia."

Aha that'll help things along, politics does work best when the politicians get rich from their decisions...
I learned an amusing word, boondoggle
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/27/o...-fracking.html

I see the federal reserve whacked up interest rates again but the stock market loved it yesterday, stocks were mostly up and then when Powell started speaking they jumped another 1%... Maybe an encouraging sign, but experts are also quick to warn stock prices are not a reliable indicator of anything, 9 out of the 5 recisions and so on..

The Americans can do whatever they want(as long as they don't invade Canada) I'm just hoping they don't bugger up the climate for everyone else because the good climate news just keeps coming

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/24/w...s-auction.html

I can see why the Congolese would do this, they see everyone else scrambling for oil and gas and they're expected to just sit on their peat bogs and stay poor. Hopefully some agreement can be found there before we all cook.

This bill is not inflationary by the way. It spends a bunch of money into the system but takes it out the other end in taxes on the wealthy so all good and fantastic for the economy. Watch GOP lobbyists try and buy off a senator to block it. My money is on Sinema. Will get back to answering this tomorrow.

**NoSavingByTheBell** · 07-28-2022 11:24 PM

**NoSavingByTheBell** · 07-29-2022 06:53 PM

**TitoFan** · 07-29-2022 08:30 PM

Hell... I still don't believe in that wall. Billions upon billions for something that is easily scaled, tunneled under, etc.

Bad on Joe for not coming up with a feasible alternative that works. These are not the Middle Ages... and we've got the technology to secure the border.

Then again... maybe they might want to add an alligator-filled moat for good measure.

**NoSavingByTheBell** · 07-29-2022 08:50 PM

Originally Posted by TitoFan

Hell... I still don't believe in that wall. Billions upon billions for something that is easily scaled, tunneled under, etc.

Bad on Joe for not coming up with a feasible alternative that works. These are not the Middle Ages... and we've got the technology to secure the border.

Then again... maybe they might want to add an alligator-filled moat for good measure.

I like that you stuck to your principle there. Atleast youre not doing what alot of Dems/Biden supporters are doing by NOT calling him out on his hypocrisy on this issue. Fair play.

**TitoFan** · 07-29-2022 08:56 PM

Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBell

Originally Posted by TitoFan

Hell... I still don't believe in that wall. Billions upon billions for something that is easily scaled, tunneled under, etc.

Bad on Joe for not coming up with a feasible alternative that works. These are not the Middle Ages... and we've got the technology to secure the border.

Then again... maybe they might want to add an alligator-filled moat for good measure.

I like that you stuck to your principle there. Atleast youre not doing what alot of Dems/Biden supporters are doing by NOT calling him out on his hypocrisy on this issue. Fair play.

i've NEVER believed in the Wall. Not when Donald was Trumpeting it (pun intended)... not now that Joe is quietly hurrying to build some sections.

I just can't believe that here we are in the 21st century, and we have to resort to medieval methods to secure a border.

**palmerq** · 08-05-2022 03:03 AM

Sinema Agrees to Climate and Tax Deal, Clearing the Way for Votes https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/04/u...XL9S2mjCBbcEnW

So the other Democrat rebel now says they'll support this bill, removing some tax increases of course, can't have the the rich paying too much tax...

So has Joe done a good job, looks like he's managed to get a fair few things through in less than two years.