Anthony Joshua v Oleksandr Usyk 2

[TIC]

i think the knockdowns to andy ruiz still linger in aj's mind & when the going gets tough aj seems lost. i thought aj would be able to fight aggressively & defeat oleksandr in the first fight but he failed to do so. i don't have much faith in aj doing so in the rematch

[NoSavingByTheBell]

yes the KDs against Ruiz have spooked him and spooked him good.

[Master]

AJ is not the same fighter after his first loss. He has lost his confidence and that doubt led to his timid performance against Usyk. He can rectify that by being aggressive, being on the front foot and using his size. I do not think he has much of a future in the division as Fury will ruin him.

I can see if AJ wins him relinquish the titles to take on easier opponents and prolong his career.

[NoSavingByTheBell]

AJ is not the same fighter after his first loss. He has lost his confidence and that doubt led to his timid performance against Usyk. He can rectify that by being aggressive, being on the front foot and using his size. I do not think he has much of a future in the division as Fury will ruin him.

I can see if AJ wins him relinquish the titles to take on easier opponents and prolong his career.

So totally true. If AJ wins, and of course he has a decent chance but not a great chance, I think he should take on a string of lighter opponents meaning easier opponents, and try to build up some consecutive victories impressively, to get his confidence back, if at all possible. He is a big huge young guy, a real Adonis. And if George Foreman could fight until the age of 49 effectively, how could a big huge young guy like AJ not fight for at least another 5 years?

[TIC]

AJ is not the same fighter after his first loss. He has lost his confidence and that doubt led to his timid performance against Usyk. He can rectify that by being aggressive, being on the front foot and using his size. I do not think he has much of a future in the division as Fury will ruin him.

I can see if AJ wins him relinquish the titles to take on easier opponents and prolong his career.

aj has not been the same since the andy ruiz loss & his confidence is shook. even in that loss he was still aggressive after the knockdowns, i don't think aj is a walk in the park for oleksandr, it's still a difficult task, i'm just not sure aj can fight the way he used to anymore

[Master]

Eddie Hearn admits that Tyson Fury is better than Anthony Joshua despite retirement

He went on to say: “If you asked me right now, who’s the best heavyweight in the world, I would say Tyson Fury. Pains us to say it but that’s facts.”

He then talked about the chats he held with Fury about signing him when he made his comeback before talking about the A-Side vs B-Side potential fallout: “Fury was always the B-Side commercially, but the rise of Tyson Fury in the last two years, like he’s put himself right up there.

“At the moment, on paper Tyson Fury’s the best heavyweight in the world. If AJ beats Usyk, it’s arguable you know, but like again, you get to a point, I think as they get older it’s easier, I think people just go ‘oh look, who cares’ AJ’s got in a position before when walk-in second and he’s actually one of them that goes “I don’t care, I just want to fight.’

“But, when two people don’t like each other, no one wants to give an inch and it’s so frustrating, like you know, it could be the changing rooms on the night ‘I want first choice of changing room’ are you f*****g joking? You’re getting 100 mil, shut up! Get changed in the car park!”

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/boxi...d138aed1fd8738

[NoSavingByTheBell]

Few in history could beat Tyson

[Mark TKO]

Just seen latest videos of Usyk - he is looking huge !

Joshua could be in trouble here

[NoSavingByTheBell]

i think the knockdowns to andy ruiz still linger in aj's mind & when the going gets tough aj seems lost. i thought aj would be able to fight aggressively & defeat oleksandr in the first fight but he failed to do so. i don't have much faith in aj doing so in the rematch

Totally. AJ is totally spooked. Somebody mentioned that he might quit early, I think that's also a good possibility. But if he quits early that's the end of his career. There was some perception that he kind of quit in the first fight with Ruiz. When the ref wave did off he hardly complained and didn't look like he really wanted to be there. To be fair there was talk of him having a concussion from sparring.

[Master]

Deontay Wilder predicts Oleksandr Usyk will "easily" beat Anthony Joshua in their world heavyweight title rematch on Saturday night.

My totally honest opinion is that it's going to depend on the fighters," Wilder explained during an appearance on the PBC Podcast. "A lot of time has passed and there's been a lot of time given to strategise for the second time around. They say when you fight a person you know him a little bit better the second time, even a little bit more the third.

"It's all going to be up to those guys. My heart says Usyk easily, he's got the momentum now and how he was able to do it the last time around. But this is boxing at the end of the day and you just never know how it's going to to end up panned out until the end of it. I wish them all the best of luck and I hope they get out of the ring just like they came in; safe and sound."

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/boxi...d9004fa1f2647e

[Master]

Anthony Joshua believes he can bring Tyson Fury out of retirement if he beats Oleksandr Usyk this weekend.

The British heavyweight will step in the ring in a sequel with Usyk on Saturday night at the Jeddah Super Dome in Saudi Arabia with the intentions of reclaiming his unified world crown. A win for Joshua could rekindle talks with bitter rival Fury who has retained his WBC world title despite binning the Ring Magazine belt as he ponders retirement.

Fury recently re-announced his retirement again in an official statement on his 34th birthday after failing to complete a deal for a trilogy fight with Derek Chisora. And Joshua has joked about Fury's purchase of a supercar and his dog must have seen him left "bored" without competing in the ring.

"Yeah I can bring him out of retirement definitely one hundred per cent," Joshua told reporters when asked if he still wants to challenge Fury if he defeats Usyk this weekend. "I think he will bring himself out of retirement because there is nothing for him to do.

"I don't think he has thought about life after boxing so I reckon he is pretty bored as there is nothing for him to do. You end up getting a dog and a Ferrari to keep yourself busy as there is not much else for him to do now. So yeah I think he will definitely come out of retirement."

Fury recently showed off the acquisition of a new Ferrari sports car worth £30,000 in a latest video aimed at Chisora requesting him to sign the contract. The 'Gypsy King' also bought a new security Rottweiler guard dog which will live with him and his family at his plush Morecambe Bay residence.

He announced that he would name the dog 'Cash' in a tribute to the millions he has made as a fighter, including in his most recent fights against Dillian Whyte and Deontay Wilder. Fury could have earned a career-high payday for an undisputed title clash against Joshua with the pair having signed on a bout agreement with both fighters set to pocked around £100 million.

However he was instead left frustrated after being forced to pull out of the deal and fight Wilder in a third meeting after an order from court. A fight between the British pair will likely still earn the pair mega-money and could be lucrative irrespective of Joshua's result against Usyk.

Fury most recently made an offer to fight Joshua for free, telling fans in an Instagram video: "I swear to God I hope he wins the fight against Usyk so that I can come out of retirement and fight him for free. However, the terms are these; I want it at Wembley stadium, I want it free to enter and I want it on free-to-air in television in this country. I'll fight him in England, not abroad in a foreign country for more money; here for free for the people."

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/boxin...oxing-27776361

[TIC]

how wild would it be if oleksandr fights orthodox?

[Master]

how wild would it be if oleksandr fights orthodox?

Usyk only fought in the orthodox stance for the open workout to play with the media.

[Primo Carnera]

how wild would it be if oleksandr fights orthodox?

Usyk only fought in the orthodox stance for the open workout to play with the media.

I didn’t see the open workout , but I was feeling exactly the same after I heard AJ on one of the preview shows talking/moaning about “fighting lefties.”
The thing is good boxers rarely comment about the unorthodox issues of the opposition because they’re good enough to adjust and not make a big deal about it.
On another point, is it just me that thinks that Sky’s marketing has been a bit low key and underwhelming for this fight. I would expect it to be in my face 24/7.
I heard that Eddie said the other day it’s because AJ is a DAZN fighter. But surely you wouldn’t want to make a loss regardless?
All sounds a bit childish to me.

[TIC]

how wild would it be if oleksandr fights orthodox?

Usyk only fought in the orthodox stance for the open workout to play with the media.

i didn't say he was going to but it would be wild. i think there is too much on the line for oleksandr to try such a dramatic change for this fight