Anthony Joshua v Oleksandr Usyk 2

[Spicoli]

Here goes AJ making it his moment again, fuck was that

The Brits HATE their own. That is what that was about. Look at the clowns on here.

Mate he lost convincingly and strips the man's National colors off his back and demands a mic to wobble on about grievance? To the victor and such is all I'm saying

it was oleksandr's moment to shine & aj took a dump all over it. he even threw the belts outside the ring. embarrassing

Finally caught that earlier part. Looked like he was motioning them at someone and just flipped them out. Then just sulked out mad and mixed until they turned him around at exit. Really strange.

[Dark Lord Al]

I am glad Usyk won he is a very good boxer.

[Master]

So cue the hypotheticals...Usyk v Holyfield for all time cruiser to heavy stakes . I got Holy.

Who would you fancy between Usyk and Holyfield? Now that would be a fight.

Can't get over how badly Joshua had him hurt for a second to that body. Usyk literally held his left side and winced. He does camouflage very intelligently. I thought AJ had him!

Here goes AJ making it his moment again, fuck was that

The Brits HATE their own. That is what that was about. Look at the clowns on here.

Mate he lost convincingly and strips the man's National colors off his back and demands a mic to wobble on about grievance? To the victor and such is all I'm saying

it was oleksandr's moment to shine & aj took a dump all over it. he even threw the belts outside the ring. embarrassing

Finally caught that earlier part. Looked like he was motioning them at someone and just flipped them out. Then just sulked out mad and mixed until they turned him around at exit. Really strange.

It is good to hear the real AJ, and the tantrum was part of the grieving of the loss. He acted like a spoilt child but can now move on rebuilding his career on Dazn and their ppv.

[Dark Lord Al]

So cue the hypotheticals...Usyk v Holyfield for all time cruiser to heavy stakes . I got Holy.

Who would you fancy between Usyk and Holyfield? Now that would be a fight.

Can't get over how badly Joshua had him hurt for a second to that body. Usyk literally held his left side and winced. He does camouflage very intelligently. I thought AJ had him!

Here goes AJ making it his moment again, fuck was that

The Brits HATE their own. That is what that was about. Look at the clowns on here.

Mate he lost convincingly and strips the man's National colors off his back and demands a mic to wobble on about grievance? To the victor and such is all I'm saying

it was oleksandr's moment to shine & aj took a dump all over it. he even threw the belts outside the ring. embarrassing

Finally caught that earlier part. Looked like he was motioning them at someone and just flipped them out. Then just sulked out mad and mixed until they turned him around at exit. Really strange.

It is good to hear the real AJ, and the tantrum was part of the grieving of the loss. He acted like a spoilt child but can now move on rebuilding his career on Dazn and their ppv.

The real AJ ? you pick the bits u like to hear ?

[Master]

So cue the hypotheticals...Usyk v Holyfield for all time cruiser to heavy stakes . I got Holy.

Who would you fancy between Usyk and Holyfield? Now that would be a fight.

Can't get over how badly Joshua had him hurt for a second to that body. Usyk literally held his left side and winced. He does camouflage very intelligently. I thought AJ had him!

Here goes AJ making it his moment again, fuck was that

The Brits HATE their own. That is what that was about. Look at the clowns on here.

Mate he lost convincingly and strips the man's National colors off his back and demands a mic to wobble on about grievance? To the victor and such is all I'm saying

it was oleksandr's moment to shine & aj took a dump all over it. he even threw the belts outside the ring. embarrassing

Finally caught that earlier part. Looked like he was motioning them at someone and just flipped them out. Then just sulked out mad and mixed until they turned him around at exit. Really strange.

It is good to hear the real AJ, and the tantrum was part of the grieving of the loss. He acted like a spoilt child but can now move on rebuilding his career on Dazn and their ppv.

The real AJ ? you pick the bits u like to hear ?

So do you my friend.

[X]

Much better performance from Joshua, but Usyk is just his kryptonite. AJ like his feet set when he throws punches and Usyk just gives to many angles and makes you reset.

There was another thread on here about Michael Spinks, that was what Spinks used to do as well.

Usyk showed masterful footwork, technique and bravery against a guy who dwarfed him. I really am gobsmacked about the judge who gave the score to Joshua as I had Usyk as a clear winner again.

Nothing wrong in giving your all, fighting bravely and never giving up. Joshua fought well.

When you box, the first thing you learn is respect for your opponent, the ref and the occasion. Terrible behaviour from Joshua at the end and it does seem a bit unforgivable. Having said that, I don’t know what actually went on that made him lose the plot so much.

Usyk … model pro, coruscating talent and clever and emotionally mature enough enough to carry himself like the champion he is.

[NoSavingByTheBell]

AJ is pretty much finished. 3 losses of his last 4 fights is it? But its not just the losses, as any fighter can rebound, but he doesn't have that killer instinct needed. His body shots were very effective, but he just doesn't go for the fucking kill. That KO by Andy really spooked him, he will not let it all hang out and go for a knockout due to that. But a huge huge guy like AJ should really capitalize on his strength and monster size. He fights like a cat now. Not aggressive enough except for that 9th round where he really did shine --- briefly. I don't know how marketable he is now. He is tarnished. He is boring and NOW, he has proven a childish, mentally unstable juvenile. For a moment it looked he would "pull a Tyson" there, I thought when he reversed course from heading to the dressing room that he was going back in to bite Usyk's ear or something. Did you hear what he first said to Usyk when he returned to the ring? He said something like "Boxing takes skills, man, boxing takes skills, you need skills to win, I have skills, so how did you beat me? How did you beat me?" What a cry baby/arrogant or whatever. Then when on the microphone he tried to spin it and say CHAMP CHAMP CHAMP, but it was too late.

[Beanz]

There is no excuse for the post fight rant but the idea that this fight somehow exposed Joshua as a fraud who can't fight or the idea that he is a coward or is spooked or is finished is ridiculous. It says much more about the people making such claims than Joshua. Usyk is on another level bu Joshua was absolutely in there with him for all 12 rounds and showed some real changes and ability to box to instruction. This is a guy who has knocked out 22 fighters as a pro and many of them were better than either Fury or Wilder faced. it is also very telling how quickly so many on social media have already shown their true colours by crying about AJ's shop comments as though they never considered him British anyway. The whole anthem thing is stupid in a sport were it is about two people in a ring in the most honest distillation of sport and desire you could ever create. Having the fight in a country that would torture you for supposed blasphemy and where conversion from Islam to Christianity would leave you without a head also shows the hypocrisy of Usyk thanking Jesus in a country were his faith is illegal. These guys are not role models, they are fighters but lets have a little context and balance.

Wilder /AJ is a great fight and I still think Fury has much to prove. Usyk may well make him look like a clown.

[mrbig1]

AJ is pretty much finished. 3 losses of his last 4 fights is it? But its not just the losses, as any fighter can rebound, but he doesn't have that killer instinct needed. His body shots were very effective, but he just doesn't go for the fucking kill. That KO by Andy really spooked him, he will not let it all hang out and go for a knockout due to that. But a huge huge guy like AJ should really capitalize on his strength and monster size. He fights like a cat now. Not aggressive enough except for that 9th round where he really did shine --- briefly. I don't know how marketable he is now. He is tarnished. He is boring and NOW, he has proven a childish, mentally unstable juvenile. For a moment it looked he would "pull a Tyson" there, I thought when he reversed course from heading to the dressing room that he was going back in to bite Usyk's ear or something. Did you hear what he first said to Usyk when he returned to the ring? He said something like "Boxing takes skills, man, boxing takes skills, you need skills to win, I have skills, so how did you beat me? How did you beat me?" What a cry baby/arrogant or whatever. Then when on the microphone he tried to spin it and say CHAMP CHAMP CHAMP, but it was too late.

I 100% agree. He has never recovered from that KO loss to Ruiz. AJ is done.

[Denilson3.0]

This fight was "Round 13" ......Ding-Ding-Ding

Robert Garcia (AJ's New Trainer) said something interesting about him. He said that AJ would complain in the gym if they don’t give him credit for things he’s doing well. Garcia quickly figured that you need to treat AJ with kid gloves to an extent. If he was brutally honest ? AJ would lose confidence in a heartbeat.

AJ has spent most of his entire pro career in that lottery funded sports institute in Sheffield.

I've been there.









It's beautiful inside. Very clean. Like hospital operating theater clean. Very corporate. People walking around in suits, sitting at tables drinking their latte's with the laptops out.

And that AJ’s problem

It's too nice

It’s not a real boxing gym. It doesn’t have that atmosphere of a real boxing gym were you learn things the hard way through hard trainers, learn veteran moves and rough tactics in the ring. It's made AJ softer and now he needs yes men around him, praising him in moments it’s not needed. He got so used to it that he excepted Robert Garcia to treat him like that too.

I think it's very telling that none of Joshua's corner was at the post fight presser. Just Eddie.

They knew Joshua would not take the risk. He can't compete with top fighters in the HEART category. He'd rather lose pretty than win ugly. It's like he wanted to end Usyk without catching any incoming.

He showed improvements but to be honest ? His shortcomings at this level are impossible to fix. His chin is pretty weak and his stamina isn't where it should be for an elite 12-round fighter. He seems to have zero idea how to tie a fighter up, wrestle fighters on the inside and rough them about. Any top HW with fast hands and feet is krytonite for AJ.

Usyk ? I'm STILL not 100% convinced on him as a HW. Hope we see the Fury fight.

Also the crowd was terrible. It was like watching during covid times when there was NO crowd. You could hear the trainers speaking that’s how quiet it was. They made Japanese boxing crowds look like hellraisers. This is what happens when you whore yourself out to Arab money. A crowd full of Saudi diplomats and millionaires. And no ring girls ? I guess they'd have probably got executed.

They pay to host these events just for bragging rights and status rather than really caring about the sport. It's like when they paid for the WWE to hold events there and they were asking for long dead/retired wrestlers to be on the shows.

And I guess we gotta talk about the AJ speech at the end ?

You know it's bad when you're in the Ring with Chisora and Usyk and you make them seem the sane ones. It's strange times when the boxers carry on like YouTubers and the YouTubers pretend to be boxers

But AJ had his Kanye...."Imma let you finish" moment.



My favourite part was Usyk trying to get his flag back from AJ and then AJ saying 'Be quiet I'm talking'

Like bro what you gonna do? Knock him out? Kidder - He aint like them drunk uni students.

P.S
Someone please keep your eyes on Eddie Hearn, he’s probably on suicide watch about now.

[NoSavingByTheBell]

Nothing worse than seeing a big huge giant guy like Joshua who does not use his size and his power to his advantage. Where is the killer instinct? Only time we really ever saw it was when he knocked out the 41-year-old Klitschko. It's disappointing because after that fight it really looked like he was going to skyrocket to the top and blast everybody out. Fury had one of the most boring fights in history when he beat Klitschko, and then here is Joshua blowing Klitschko out and really smashing him. At that time I really felt Joshua had come into his own prime of his career and would go on to really blaze a trail of high quality knockouts and or victories. What the hell happened after that Klitschko fight I have no idea but mentally he just doesn't really look 100% dedicated. I give him credit for fighting a much better fight this time around, his body attack was brilliant, and he jolted some really bone jarring shots onto usyk that may have knocked out other fighters. He needed to put together five or six jarring shots like that in order to get a knockout. He is a tremendous athlete and a great physical beast, but maybe boxing is not his Sunday punch..

[Dark Lord Al]

So cue the hypotheticals...Usyk v Holyfield for all time cruiser to heavy stakes . I got Holy.

Who would you fancy between Usyk and Holyfield? Now that would be a fight.

Can't get over how badly Joshua had him hurt for a second to that body. Usyk literally held his left side and winced. He does camouflage very intelligently. I thought AJ had him!

Here goes AJ making it his moment again, fuck was that

The Brits HATE their own. That is what that was about. Look at the clowns on here.

Mate he lost convincingly and strips the man's National colors off his back and demands a mic to wobble on about grievance? To the victor and such is all I'm saying

it was oleksandr's moment to shine & aj took a dump all over it. he even threw the belts outside the ring. embarrassing

Finally caught that earlier part. Looked like he was motioning them at someone and just flipped them out. Then just sulked out mad and mixed until they turned him around at exit. Really strange.

It is good to hear the real AJ, and the tantrum was part of the grieving of the loss. He acted like a spoilt child but can now move on rebuilding his career on Dazn and their ppv.

The real AJ ? you pick the bits u like to hear ?

So do you my friend.

It is two questions.

[Dark Lord Al]

I did find it funny when Fury said it was the worst HW title fight in years.
I thought it was way better than Fury's yawn fest with Wlad.
Boxers have short memories.

[Master]

So cue the hypotheticals...Usyk v Holyfield for all time cruiser to heavy stakes . I got Holy.

Who would you fancy between Usyk and Holyfield? Now that would be a fight.

Can't get over how badly Joshua had him hurt for a second to that body. Usyk literally held his left side and winced. He does camouflage very intelligently. I thought AJ had him!

Here goes AJ making it his moment again, fuck was that

The Brits HATE their own. That is what that was about. Look at the clowns on here.

Mate he lost convincingly and strips the man's National colors off his back and demands a mic to wobble on about grievance? To the victor and such is all I'm saying

it was oleksandr's moment to shine & aj took a dump all over it. he even threw the belts outside the ring. embarrassing

Finally caught that earlier part. Looked like he was motioning them at someone and just flipped them out. Then just sulked out mad and mixed until they turned him around at exit. Really strange.

It is good to hear the real AJ, and the tantrum was part of the grieving of the loss. He acted like a spoilt child but can now move on rebuilding his career on Dazn and their ppv.

The real AJ ? you pick the bits u like to hear ?

So do you my friend.

It is two questions.

It is one question and one comment from you.

[NoSavingByTheBell]

So cue the hypotheticals...Usyk v Holyfield for all time cruiser to heavy stakes . I got Holy.

Who would you fancy between Usyk and Holyfield? Now that would be a fight.

Can't get over how badly Joshua had him hurt for a second to that body. Usyk literally held his left side and winced. He does camouflage very intelligently. I thought AJ had him!

Here goes AJ making it his moment again, fuck was that

The Brits HATE their own. That is what that was about. Look at the clowns on here.

Mate he lost convincingly and strips the man's National colors off his back and demands a mic to wobble on about grievance? To the victor and such is all I'm saying

it was oleksandr's moment to shine & aj took a dump all over it. he even threw the belts outside the ring. embarrassing

Finally caught that earlier part. Looked like he was motioning them at someone and just flipped them out. Then just sulked out mad and mixed until they turned him around at exit. Really strange.

It is good to hear the real AJ, and the tantrum was part of the grieving of the loss. He acted like a spoilt child but can now move on rebuilding his career on Dazn and their ppv.

The real AJ ? you pick the bits u like to hear ?

So do you my friend.

It is two questions.

It is one question and one comment from you.

It is 4 questions, 3 rebuttals, 2 retorts and one comment for the 5th time out of 6.