The Brexit Thread

[Master]

_{Kwarteng has gone. Truss is surely toast now.}

This post should be put on the Boris thread, the incompetence of the Tories is unbelievable.

[Beanz]

_{Kwarteng has gone. Truss is surely toast now.}

This post should be put on the Boris thread, the incompetence of the Tories is unbelievable.

You are probably right. They have always been fiscally shite but this even for them is a new low.

[Kirkland Laing]

Pre-Brexit UK GDP was 90% of Germany's GDP. Now just under 70%. Fair to say it's not going well.


Oh look.


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The Daily Telegraph. The fucking Telegraph. If reality keeps seeping into the press it'll create enough popular support to at least rejoin the single market and stop most of the bleeding. Might take a while but it's coming. Latest polls show 53-34 think it was a mistake to leave. That will climb to 60-30 quickly if the right wing press even allow a little reality into the papers. That's not the same question as would you rejoin the single market though. Although with inevitable media coverage of the issue that could hit two to one faster than the first question.

[Beanz]

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[Master]

Brexit is a Tory conspired mess that Boris did not get done.

[Primo Carnera]

Brexit is a Tory conspired mess that Boris did not get done.

Now I am far from being a Boris or Tory apologist, but with respect, that is bullshit.
When we had the Brexit vote, 95% of ALL MP’s recommended voting to remain. The fact that the people decided to ignore that is not their fault.
So the vote is to leave and the Government (regardless of party) have to try to patch this bullshit up. And once the vote goes that way, whether we agree or not, we have to get on with it.
It was always going to be impossible to get “a good deal” , rarely happens in divorces.
Before I get called a moaning remainer, hindsight would show that in some ways it worked out to be the right call.
If we were still part of Europe, we would still be waiting for our vaccine after sharing it out. And many European countries admire the decision to leave and wish their country had the balls to do the same.

[Master]

Brexit is a Tory conspired mess that Boris did not get done.

Now I am far from being a Boris or Tory apologist, but with respect, that is bullshit.
When we had the Brexit vote, 95% of ALL MP’s recommended voting to remain. The fact that the people decided to ignore that is not their fault.
So the vote is to leave and the Government (regardless of party) have to try to patch this bullshit up. And once the vote goes that way, whether we agree or not, we have to get on with it.
It was always going to be impossible to get “a good deal” , rarely happens in divorces.
Before I get called a moaning remainer, hindsight would show that in some ways it worked out to be the right call.
If we were still part of Europe, we would still be waiting for our vaccine after sharing it out. And many European countries admire the decision to leave and wish their country had the balls to do the same.

The Tories have always had divisions about Europe and Thatcher showed the strains of that relationship back then. Cameron promised the referendum to appease his party at the expense of the nation which has been divided ever since.

Cameron and Osbourne left his colleagues to pick up the mess. May called an unnecessary election and lost her majority to get it done. The government were a laughingstock until Boris promised to get it done which he did not with one of the largest majorities ever.

Tory mess.