Deontay Wilder vs Andy Ruiz Jr

[Master]

“Rejuvenated Dubois” next you’re gonna roll out the “He’s a World Champion” line.

Dubois beats Ruiz.

No shame in Dubois losing to Joe Joyce.

[Primo Carnera]

“Rejuvenated Dubois” next you’re gonna roll out the “He’s a World Champion” line.

Dubois beats Ruiz.

No shame in Dubois losing to Joe Joyce.

If Ruiz comes in a fat prick that’s not trained and been eating burritos for 8 weeks, then Dubois (and loads of other HW’s) have a chance, 50/50.
But if Ruiz came in with even an average camp behind him, he beats Dubois all day long.
I’m not even rating Ruiz very highly, but you always diss a foreign guy when comparing to a Brit, and you always overrate the Brit.
When you say World class, you reckon the World starts in Cornwall and ends in Newcastle.

[Beanz]

“Rejuvenated Dubois” next you’re gonna roll out the “He’s a World Champion” line.

Dubois beats Ruiz.

No shame in Dubois losing to Joe Joyce.

If Ruiz comes in a fat prick that’s not trained and been eating burritos for 8 weeks, then Dubois (and loads of other HW’s) have a chance, 50/50.
But if Ruiz came in with even an average camp behind him, he beats Dubois all day long.
I’m not even rating Ruiz very highly, but you always diss a foreign guy when comparing to a Brit, and you always overrate the Brit.
When you say World class, you reckon the World starts in Cornwall and ends in Newcastle.

Mate, seriously that is just exposing the massive chip on your own shoulder. What is it with your insistence that being British means you will always over rate the British fighter? Ruiz is far from Shite and I really don't rate Dubois at all, but their place of birth has nothing to do with that opinion, and I don't think it has for Master either.

[Spicoli]

Can't lose sight that other than 3 minutes with a tailor made hand picked opponent, there remain legit questions surrounding Wilder. I can see Ruiz trying to keep a turtle shell low approach as Wilder was more than willing to give up ring straight back into the corner. Hooking out of the crouch. And his hand speed remains for him.

Problem is that before Ruiz breaks out and does well in his fights, he has to get into one and gets caught clean first . Always has. That's to his detriment here big time. Maybe Wilder breaks a hand on top of his head. But if Arreola is lining you up for a straight right and dropping you clean, I like Wilder if his stamina and wear and tear do not catch up mid rounds. They have talked about this for a bit and thought it may happen sooner but glad it's happening.

[Primo Carnera]

“Rejuvenated Dubois” next you’re gonna roll out the “He’s a World Champion” line.

Dubois beats Ruiz.

No shame in Dubois losing to Joe Joyce.

If Ruiz comes in a fat prick that’s not trained and been eating burritos for 8 weeks, then Dubois (and loads of other HW’s) have a chance, 50/50.
But if Ruiz came in with even an average camp behind him, he beats Dubois all day long.
I’m not even rating Ruiz very highly, but you always diss a foreign guy when comparing to a Brit, and you always overrate the Brit.
When you say World class, you reckon the World starts in Cornwall and ends in Newcastle.

Mate, seriously that is just exposing the massive chip on your own shoulder. What is it with your insistence that being British means you will always over rate the British fighter? Ruiz is far from Shite and I really don't rate Dubois at all, but their place of birth has nothing to do with that opinion, and I don't think it has for Master either.

Mate, I’m not saying it’s a racist thing, what I’m saying is that it is believing the constant tub thumping of guys on our own doorstep, just because we know more about them and see them more.
Before Crawford beat Ricky Burns, nobody over here knew much about Crawford. But put there names together now and it’s almost laughable.
@ronswanson makes a fair point when says about another “British World Champion.”
It’s the business side of things , the governing bodies put more people into title fights because their fights might make more money for the commission.
Example , at one time the WBO was nicknamed the “Warren Boxing Organisation” because of his “special” relationship with them. The only person outside the U.K. that used to get WBO belts was Manny Pac, much for the same reasons.
It’s all about the ching ching.

[Primo Carnera]

Dubois is a “regular” World Champion. Now there are 4 governing bodies , say they each had a proper champ and each had a “regular” champ. That’s 8 guys max. And Infact the proper belts are held between 2 men, so that means 6 “champions” max.
Can you honestly say Dubois is one of the 6 best HW’s in the World?
He was manoeuvred into that position by his management and promotions team. It’s been going on forever.