Vasiliy Lomachenko v Jamaine Ortiz

[Ron Swanson]

What is this nonsense about none of the top fighters wanting to fight Loma? Berchelt begged for the fight but Loma moved up instead, Mikey Garcia did his best to get around Bob begging every single person at TR for that fight, crickets, Haney has been calling for the fight since he became Loma’s mandatory 4 years ago, they dumped the belt instead.

Loma was 396-1 as an amateur, fighting for world titles in the pros by his 2nd fight(if you ignore his professional fights in that league AIBA or whatever it was). Loma’s career does not need people lying for him. He never needed ESPN making graphics that had him undefeated on 2 separate occasions long after he lost. He doesn’t need people ignoring all his L steps, rhythm steps, cross steps to lie about how good his footwork is. It is great even with all the breaks in fundamentals that make him vulnerable to being reset or worse

His a generational talent on merit. I wish they would stop f’n lying about him.

[TIC]

He never needed ESPN making graphics that had him undefeated on 2 separate occasions long after he lost.

pbc did the same thing for carlos ocampo for his recent fight with sebastian fundora until it was highlighted that carlos was not undefeated

[TIC]

Haney has been calling for the fight since he became Loma’s mandatory

did the wbc name devin as loma's mandatory or just number one contender? if you could show the wbc link where they state devin was loma's mandatory or that they mandated that fight would be great. also didn't loma already have belts at the time? i'm not sure if loma had any mandatories at the time either for those belts but i would have thought mandatories for belts he already had would have been ahead of devin anyway. if you could clear that up for me would be great. the wbc are to blame in my opinion for creating another belt

[TIC]

could be money to be made on a loma between rounds seven & twelve bet

[TIC]

abdullah mason just scored a fourth round stoppage

[Spicoli]

Mason looked pretty good. Has the finishers instinct. Not sure about Isley again. But like them bringing a tough nut like LaVallais in for another test. Guys like this make the sport go around and Isley can learn something.

[TIC]

Mason looked pretty good. Has the finishers instinct. Not sure about Isley again. But like them bringing a tough nut like LaVallais in for another test. Guys like this make the sport go around and Isley can learn something.

yeah troy isley seems to only just do enough

[TIC]

i like what i have seen of tiger johnson

[Ron Swanson]

Haney has been calling for the fight since he became Loma’s mandatory

did the wbc name devin as loma's mandatory or just number one contender? if you could show the wbc link where they state devin was loma's mandatory or that they mandated that fight would be great. also didn't loma already have belts at the time? i'm not sure if loma had any mandatories at the time either for those belts but i would have thought mandatories for belts he already had would have been ahead of devin anyway. if you could clear that up for me would be great. the wbc are to blame in my opinion for creating another belt

Loma’s team requested it. Stop making excuses. What happens happens. We don’t need excuses

https://3kingsboxing.com/sulaiman-de...statement/amp/

[TIC]

Haney has been calling for the fight since he became Loma’s mandatory

did the wbc name devin as loma's mandatory or just number one contender? if you could show the wbc link where they state devin was loma's mandatory or that they mandated that fight would be great. also didn't loma already have belts at the time? i'm not sure if loma had any mandatories at the time either for those belts but i would have thought mandatories for belts he already had would have been ahead of devin anyway. if you could clear that up for me would be great. the wbc are to blame in my opinion for creating another belt

Loma’s team requested it. Stop making excuses. What happens happens. We don’t need excuses

https://3kingsboxing.com/sulaiman-de...statement/amp/

what excuses am i making? i asked two questions. are you not able to post a link from the wbc where they state devin is loma's mandatory? second question seemed like common sense that if you already have belts those mandatories would come before someone who was allegedly named mandatory after you already held other belts, but lets start with you backing up claim that devin was loma's mandatory. i see you have posted a link, unfortunately it doesn't appear to be from the wbc, does it state in that article that devin was named loma's mandatory? so once again please provide an official wbc link showing they named devin as loma's mandatory or that they mandated that fight, from there you & i can move on to the order of mandatories

[Master]

That was a good contest and impressed with Ortiz performance as he came out fast, aggressive, high energy and gave Loma all sorts of problems early in the contest.

Ortiz had the youth, height and reach to cause Loma problems and the bruise on Loma face made him have to work hard to earn the victory.

As the contest moved to the later rounds Loma's experience took over and he bruised the eye of Ortiz. Good fight from both and hope Loma can now take on Haney for the 4 belts.

[mikeeod]

Good fight- I think you can see the style that will give Loma trouble at this stage of his career (at lightweight). Young, much larger, athletic fighter with a good jab ( similar to Teo) takes Loma half a fight to tire out and figure out enough to start taking over. Haney is a better version of both so that is a tough fight for Loma. 135 pounders are too big and when you combine that with youth/energy that is a tough combination for Loma.

[J_Undisputed]

Before his return from "War", I said wouldn't be surprised if we never saw Loma in the ring again.. I guess I owe him an apology... I guess....

Yes, the size difference was apparent, but that's the game now. Loma was still going straight in without his footwork and eating leather. The footwork, Jab, step around, Slip under isn't going to work against these boiled down welterweight kids who have essentially been instructed to punch with him and take the body whenever he gets inside. I get it that its his first fight back, but I don't see this version of him putting in the work necessary to take what Haney has. (he needs to study tape, get great sparring, a crystal ball and a tarot deck.) He already naturally comes up short on size, reach, power and a way in.

The only thing in Lomas favor is that Haney sometimes has a habit of going straight back, but if he learns to step around and hook with Loma. He'll put this Loma on his butt at least a few times. May have to change this name after this fight from the dream to the "Mosquiter eater".