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    Default Re: Will Wilder-Joshua EVER happen??

    I'm doubting any of these fights with the top guys will happen. I saw something yesterday saying Usyk must face Dubois.

    It really is pathetic isn't it. Gone are the days of fighting 3 or 4 times a year.
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    Default Re: Will Wilder-Joshua EVER happen??

    Becoming undisputed champion for either Fury or Usyk is the priority for boxing. It carries the most money, legacy for the boxers, and ensures the decency of boxing. The mandatory’s will get their opportunity after the titles are dispersed which is what happened after it was last unified by Lennox.

    The next biggest fight is Fury v AJ which can still be made but AJ looks too confused and lost.

    Wilder v AJ is still a big fight but AJ will only take it as a last resort. After all the above scenarios have occurred I can see it happen but it is a long shot.

    Big matchups still happen way after their best sell by date. Lennox v Morrison, Holyfield v Mercer, and Tyson v Holyfield.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Becoming undisputed champion for either Fury or Usyk is the priority for boxing. It carries the most money, legacy for the boxers, and ensures the decency of boxing. The mandatory’s will get their opportunity after the titles are dispersed which is what happened after it was last unified by Lennox.

    The next biggest fight is Fury v AJ which can still be made but AJ looks too confused and lost.

    Wilder v AJ is still a big fight but AJ will only take it as a last resort. After all the above scenarios have occurred I can see it happen but it is a long shot.

    Big matchups still happen way after their best sell by date. Lennox v Morrison, Holyfield v Mercer, and Tyson v Holyfield.
    I'd say we're well past the stage of getting to undisputed champion is a priority. Fighters should just have to concentrate on beating the best - politics does not allow it.

    I'd love two fighters brave enough to say fuck the belts we'll get it on anyway. I've ignored different champions for some time and gone by the Ring champion.

    A unified championship would be split before one of them makes a defence - we all know it. How does that ensure the decency of boxing.
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    Does not matter as much about defending the undisputed and unified title than achieving it. There are too many belts to be able to defend them successfully anyway.

    Boxing has to aspire to have one champion and if it can be achieved which it can on this occasion then it will happen.
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    Default Re: Will Wilder-Joshua EVER happen??

    its bollocks and you know it
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    Default Re: Will Wilder-Joshua EVER happen??

    Quote Originally Posted by Mark TKO View Post
    its bollocks and you know it
    We are nearly there, after many years, for either Fury or Usyk to become undisputed champion which is a priority.

    The 2 best fighters will fight one another. It's a win for boxing. The winner will become the "Man" who everyone else has to beat regardless of what happens afterwards to the belts.
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    Default Re: Will Wilder-Joshua EVER happen??

    If you had to put your house on yes we'll get there or no it won't happen what would you play....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Does not matter as much about defending the undisputed and unified title than achieving it. There are too many belts to be able to defend them successfully anyway.

    Boxing has to aspire to have one champion and if it can be achieved which it can on this occasion then it will happen.
    When was the last time you saw a surprise outcome in a HW title fight (don't say Usyck Joshua)
    When was the last time you saw a HW title fight that could have gone either way, and was followed by an obligatory rematch
    When was the last time you placed your bum on an expensive seat for a HW title fight

    The answers to the above questions will explain why pub fighting (aka MMA/UFC etc.) is taking over the mainstream

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    Quote Originally Posted by nuggetdotcom View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Does not matter as much about defending the undisputed and unified title than achieving it. There are too many belts to be able to defend them successfully anyway.

    Boxing has to aspire to have one champion and if it can be achieved which it can on this occasion then it will happen.
    When was the last time you saw a surprise outcome in a HW title fight (don't say Usyck Joshua)
    When was the last time you saw a HW title fight that could have gone either way, and was followed by an obligatory rematch
    When was the last time you placed your bum on an expensive seat for a HW title fight

    The answers to the above questions will explain why pub fighting (aka MMA/UFC etc.) is taking over the mainstream
    Usyk beating Joshua
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    I remember you were certain Joshua would win so fair enough.

    Many weren't surprised mind
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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by nuggetdotcom View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Does not matter as much about defending the undisputed and unified title than achieving it. There are too many belts to be able to defend them successfully anyway.

    Boxing has to aspire to have one champion and if it can be achieved which it can on this occasion then it will happen.
    When was the last time you saw a surprise outcome in a HW title fight (don't say Usyck Joshua)
    When was the last time you saw a HW title fight that could have gone either way, and was followed by an obligatory rematch
    When was the last time you placed your bum on an expensive seat for a HW title fight

    The answers to the above questions will explain why pub fighting (aka MMA/UFC etc.) is taking over the mainstream
    Usyk beating Joshua
    With all due respect if you think Usyck was a 'surprise' win, let me know if you ever get a job with a bookmaker. Tight verdict, even controversial was the game plan, with the draw in reserve. Usyck cleverly (some would say routinely) made it impossible for the fix to come in by doing a Buster Mathis on slow-witted Joshua, TWICE. Happy Christmas.
    Last edited by nuggetdotcom; 12-20-2022 at 01:50 AM.

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    Default Re: Will Wilder-Joshua EVER happen??

    Quote Originally Posted by nuggetdotcom View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Does not matter as much about defending the undisputed and unified title than achieving it. There are too many belts to be able to defend them successfully anyway.

    Boxing has to aspire to have one champion and if it can be achieved which it can on this occasion then it will happen.
    When was the last time you saw a surprise outcome in a HW title fight (don't say Usyck Joshua)
    When was the last time you saw a HW title fight that could have gone either way, and was followed by an obligatory rematch
    When was the last time you placed your bum on an expensive seat for a HW title fight

    The answers to the above questions will explain why pub fighting (aka MMA/UFC etc.) is taking over the mainstream
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    Default Re: Will Wilder-Joshua EVER happen??

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