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    Default Re: Artur Beterbiev: All time & H2H

    NOBODY Tested Ward in his career! Not at SMW, not at LHW. when did you see Ward wobble? When did you see Ward even lose a round against someone of Yarde’s level ? (No disrespect to Yarde.)
    Ward NEVER EVER looked in danger of losing a fight for one second.
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    Default Re: Artur Beterbiev: All time & H2H

    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
    NOBODY Tested Ward in his career! Not at SMW, not at LHW. when did you see Ward wobble? When did you see Ward even lose a round against someone of Yarde’s level ? (No disrespect to Yarde.)
    Ward NEVER EVER looked in danger of losing a fight for one second.
    Andre Ward had a bloodied nose after the first round against Kov just from the jab and the look on his face was "what the hell have I got myself into here". The second round he was knocked down from a crushing right hand and he thought "what am I doing on the floor here?".

    Andre Ward got up and fought on pride alone and got himself back into the fight but he was certainly tested by Kov in both fights and was fortunate to win.
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    Default Re: Artur Beterbiev: All time & H2H

    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
    NOBODY Tested Ward in his career! Not at SMW, not at LHW. when did you see Ward wobble? When did you see Ward even lose a round against someone of Yarde’s level ? (No disrespect to Yarde.)
    Ward NEVER EVER looked in danger of losing a fight for one second.
    Andre Ward had a bloodied nose after the first round against Kov just from the jab and the look on his face was "what the hell have I got myself into here". The second round he was knocked down from a crushing right hand and he thought "what am I doing on the floor here?".

    Andre Ward got up and fought on pride alone and got himself back into the fight but he was certainly tested by Kov in both fights and was fortunate to win.
    I didn’t word my post particularly well, but I didn’t see the look on Ward’s face you saw! It was a flash knockdown and Ward was smiling at him. From then on in that fight and the second one, Ward gradually made the adjustments he had to make, he took over and he stole Kovalev’s soul.
    The low punch didn’t make any difference to how the second fight would’ve finished.
    And the Darnell Boone knockdown that others mentioned is ridiculous really. It was a 6 rounder with 2 guys swinging like a rusty gate.
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    The knockdown against Kovalev was more than a flash knockdown. Just because Ward smiled doesn't mean he wasn't hurt. You're actually taking credit away from Ward for getting back up from that shot
    I'm with you that the low punches didn't make any difference to how the second fight would have finished
    Why is mentioning the Boone fight & knockdown ridiculous? You asked: When did you see Ward wobble? & When did you see Ward even lose a round against someone of Yarde’s level?
    I provided an example of when I saw Ward wobble, I saw Ward wobble back from the uppercut Boone landed as he fell
    It could be debated but I'd consider Boone & Yarde comparable in level, so I also saw Ward lose a round against someone of Yarde's level
    Dismissing the Boone fight because it was a 6 rounder is moving the goal posts from your original questions

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    Default Re: Artur Beterbiev: All time & H2H

    Excellent, this is a great line of argument, I approve. Yarde and Boone at the same level!.. so now we've got beterbiev in his 7th title defence losing rounds to a guy on the same level as someone ward was beating in his 7th pro fight.

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    Default Re: Artur Beterbiev: All time & H2H

    artur beterbiev would have abused andre ward. it would have been as one sided as a gang rape
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    Default Re: Artur Beterbiev: All time & H2H

    Quote Originally Posted by palmerq View Post
    Excellent, this is a great line of argument, I approve. Yarde and Boone at the same level!.. so now we've got beterbiev in his 7th title defence losing rounds to a guy on the same level as someone ward was beating in his 7th pro fight.
    I was responding to the question that was asked about Ward losing a round to someone of Yarde's level. If you want to debate that Yarde is a higher or lower level to Boone we can do that but your reply has nothing to do with the question I replied to

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    Default Re: Artur Beterbiev: All time & H2H

    Well It has nothing to do with the question you replied to because I wasn't responding to the ambling alp... Anyway why would I want to debate Yarde and Boone I was agreeing with you!

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    Default Re: Artur Beterbiev: All time & H2H

    Quote Originally Posted by palmerq View Post
    someone ward was beating in his 7th pro fight.
    artur had already beaten a former world champion by his seventh fight
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    I'm gonna go with it being a wash and chalk it up as both Ward and Beterbiev were 1 year into career give or take a few months as pros. Both got 'touched' in their 7th fight but won. But Yarde quite possibly will never compare to Boone in big name wins and moments. But Beterbiev still beats Ward at 175..hypothetically . Of course.

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    Default Re: Artur Beterbiev: All time & H2H

    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
    NOBODY Tested Ward in his career! Not at SMW, not at LHW. when did you see Ward wobble? When did you see Ward even lose a round against someone of Yarde’s level ? (No disrespect to Yarde.)
    Ward NEVER EVER looked in danger of losing a fight for one second.
    I felt the knock down lost him the 1st Kovalev fight
    I'm not sure what you mean by wobble, he took a big shot against Boone that put him down & the shot Kovalev landed on him in the 1st fight to drop him sounded like he got hit by a bat. Ward getting back up from those 2 shots showed his heart
    With respect to Yarde & Ward, Beterbiev is 38. Ward was done by 33
    I also felt Ward should have got some warnings in the 1st Kovalev fight for his dirty tactics. Can't blame Ward though if the ref ain't going to do anything

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    Default Re: Artur Beterbiev: All time & H2H

    Quote Originally Posted by Big J View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
    NOBODY Tested Ward in his career! Not at SMW, not at LHW. when did you see Ward wobble? When did you see Ward even lose a round against someone of Yarde’s level ? (No disrespect to Yarde.)
    Ward NEVER EVER looked in danger of losing a fight for one second.
    I felt the knock down lost him the 1st Kovalev fight
    I'm not sure what you mean by wobble, he took a big shot against Boone that put him down & the shot Kovalev landed on him in the 1st fight to drop him sounded like he got hit by a bat. Ward getting back up from those 2 shots showed his heart
    With respect to Yarde & Ward, Beterbiev is 38. Ward was done by 33
    I also felt Ward should have got some warnings in the 1st Kovalev fight for his dirty tactics. Can't blame Ward though if the ref ain't going to do anything
    Peach of an uppercut too. Boone had Ward out on his feet and holding on for life to make the rounds end. Pretty sure Ward was wobbled in his 2nd or 3rd start too. Crazy thing is the same Boone dropped and hurt Kovalev also. losing a very controversial decision in their first fight. But in fairness so many 'top' guys get buzzed coming up and it tends to get overlooked as they've gone on to overcome bigger challenges. I mean Beterbiev was dropped by a Jeff Page but then goes on to be within 1 fight of full unification. Every time we hear a top star talked about as "never hurt never down" it's taken with a grain of salt and skepticism. Small struggle with fighter C or B does not always equate to the same with fighter A.
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