What's the best way to have fights scored fairly?

[Master]

AI should be used for stats and aid the judges but not to decide the round themselves. We need the human element to do that. If that subjectivity means rounds being given to the wrong boxer so be it.

[TIC]

i'm sure i saw something about censors in gloves awhile back, if used together it could some type of indication of how a round played out. i'd be interested to see how the ai scored some controversial fights

[NoSavingByTheBell]

Two referees in the ring and five judges ringside Plus two independent punch counters combined into an algorithm to give an instantaneous logarithmic calculation of which fighter actually won the fight

[NoSavingByTheBell]

Two referees in the ring and five judges ringside Plus two independent punch counters combined into an algorithm to give an instantaneous logarithmic calculation of which fighter actually won the fight

I will stick with my answer from ONE YEAR ago

[Memphis]

The problem with technology is that you have to have a human build the technology and code the technology and output the resultant data from the technology. If you're in the business of paying people off, you just pay a different person.

I'm in favour of more judges watching from anywhere other than ringside and cards picked at random from a number of the judges. Again though, you'd just pay the judges as normal and pay one more guy to pick the right judges no?

The idea that the judges need to be there and on three of four sides of the ring is nonsense. Enough people watching from a single view point on TV, know bullshit when they see bullshit. It's not rocket surgery.

[TitoFan]

Then why not apply that to other sports that require judging?

Having TV or remote judges might or might not be a good idea... but I don't see that happening anytime soon. So instead, provide the judges that ARE there with the best vantage points. And put more of them. It's painfully obvious in boxing that three judges are many times incapable of arriving at a good decision. Put five, then. THAT... isn't rocket science.

To me it's six of one... half dozen of the other whether the judges watch from ringside... TV... or a platform hanging over the ring. The point really is: NOBODY knows or agrees on HOW to judge. It's a bunch of half-assed, supposed, unwritten rules on which hardly ANYONE agrees. Is it any wonder judging cards are many times all over the place??

Judging in boxing has been given the care and attention that lint traps sometimes get on dryers... which is to say, NONE. Something as critical to the sport as judging gets the occasional casual nod or headshake, but nothing more. We've all complained hundreds of times about shoddy judging... and nothing ever gets done.

So bring all the hair-brained ideas. SOMETHING needs to be done.

[TIC]

there have been many good ideas over the years but the boxing community refuses to do anything, a judge with a really bad card should be interviewd live immediately following fighter interviews to explain themselves. the commisions need to start holding judges accountable for their bad cards. i like the idea of five cards, three judges cards, an average from assigned press row judges & an ai card. throw out the widest card & the closest card & use the other three

[Spicoli]

Great brainstorms here on an issue we as fans have watched red faced on too many occasions. I don't know about more cards and it may not address the bottom line 800lb gorilla in the room...corruption and the wide swath of random subjectivity. As Tito says there really is no clear definition, guidelines and reinforced adherence to what judging is in the first place. It's a crapshoot on interpretation barring clear obvious wobbles and kds.

Always thought putting a literal face on judges would help. Accountability! Literally stand them ring center same as the ref upon introduction and maybe even at the time of cards being read. May sound a little simplistic but loved when HBO would put a face on judges. And they did a rundown prefight of bigger fights judged. Not a thing wrong with honest scrutiny when an official is in the role of deciding a fighters immediate and long-term career and livelihood.

Another random thing that bugs the old fan in me...the carefree and constant discussion of live betting odds done by the actual network commentators. I know I'm dating myself and online betting is massive now but ffs it's literally in the face of all ringside officials, fighters and anyone within eye or earshot. Happens in live time onscreen, pre fight, between rounds, post fight and seems the most basic temptation in what we all know is, once again, a largely corrupt sport.

[Spicoli]

i'm sure i saw something about censors in gloves awhile back, if used together it could some type of indication of how a round played out. i'd be interested to see how the ai scored some controversial fights

Ran across this but not sure how it would be implemented and sounds more for training or bag work. Sensors/chips interesting but could give a whole new meaning to pause for technical difficulties. Have we even settled on a universal glove tape that stays wrapped

[palmerq]

Just have a fight to the death, no judges, no need for opinions...simples.

[TIC]

i'm sure i saw something about censors in gloves awhile back, if used together it could some type of indication of how a round played out. i'd be interested to see how the ai scored some controversial fights

Ran across this but not sure how it would be implemented and sounds more for training or bag work. Sensors/chips interesting but could give a whole new meaning to pause for technical difficulties. Have we even settled on a universal glove tape that stays wrapped

they say they put all that tech in the nfl balls that record a lot of information so the technology is there, just needs to be tweeked. you are right, until there everyone is onboard & are looking to advance the sport nothing will improve, look at instant replay, that should already be in use everywhere

[Spicoli]

Ever score rounds minute to minute? Almost impossible to catch an even round that way, but scoring knockdowns may get complicated. It would be interesting to find out how many judges over the years were-are actually former pro fighters.

[TIC]

Ever score rounds minute to minute? Almost impossible to catch an even round that way, but scoring knockdowns may get complicated. It would be interesting to find out how many judges over the years were-are actually former pro fighters.

i tend to score first half of the round then second half

[TitoFan]

I'd say increase the number of judges from 3 to 5. One on each side of the ring, and maybe one that can move around randomly.