Quote Originally Posted by Pantera
Quote Originally Posted by huntin_itai

I have given Miranda props for what he is a guy with excellent power that has little to no other boxing skills. He is far more raw than Pavlik, watch some of Kelly's fights he has far better boxing skills and has power in both his left and his right hands. The guys he fought were also picked by his camp as you say Gibbs was picked by HBO and Kelly did not just win those fights he walked right through them and was never in trouble in any of his fights to this point, he is 29-0 with 26 KO's.

The thing is I have watched the Abraham fight over and over. You must realize that Abraham lasted the last 8 rounds with a broken jaw, Miranda did not knock out a guy with a broken jaw.

I really hope that Miranda and Pavlik fight, but for now we will just have to agree to disagree.
How can you say Miranda has little to no boxing skills other than power? The man KO'd Eastman and argueably KO'd Abraham and beat him on points. It takes a lot more than power to accomplish those two feats alone. It's easy to look good and stay undefeated like Pavlik when you hand pick class B smaller guys to beat up on. Send Pavlik to Germany to face Abraham and see what happens, than you can talk, until than STFU!
How can anyone think Miranda outpointed Abraham is beyond me, it wasnt even close in my book. Toney Peter was close, Winky Taylor was close, Abraham Miranda was not close. Miranda broke his jaw, thats pretty much all. The fight was actually pretty damn boring to be completely honest with you. Even after the fight people hyped it "OMG he broke his jaw" yeah thats all that happened...