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Can't believe Tank showed up for first presser wearing a pink shag carpet and carrying a tiny neon green purse. Interesting times .

But honest question and I know it's come up before with other fighters...but what's the big deal about a rehydration clause? It does apply to both fighters correct?
Garcia has the bigger frame naturally and the leaner of the 2 physiques. Its not so much about weight but physiology. More muscular physiques will look smaller and more cut with dehydration before it starts to deeply affect their bodily functions. Bigger Leaner guys (because their bodies had less places to store it), will feel the dehydration more as the body starts to drink itself . Which is what happens when fighters cut water weight. Especially that last couple of pounds. Eventually, your bloods getting thicker and harder to pump through your veins, you're overheating because youre unable to sweat. Your tongue is stuck to the roof of your mouth. You're getting headaches and are headed toward renal failure. Which is why many fighters are such a-holes before they hydrate. Guys from bigger weight classes that try to boil themselves down to a smaller weight class, will pack that weight back on overnight without getting fat and sluggish. Their body gets the nutrition, craps out the rest due to the tuning from the training process and they walk to the ring feeling like a million bucks. (Danny Jacobs, Paul Williams,) Then you had other guys that didn't want to put in the Work. Like Chavez Jr. he'd use Diuretics to shed the weight and come to the ring looking flabby and pasty...Or Kelly pavlik who after falling off the wagon, the alcohol consumption already had him dehydrated. So when he rehydrated. He was bigger but weaker, and his reflexes and timing were off.

Then you had guys like Mikey Garcia who wasn't cut but was a taller fighter for the weight classes he was in. He had trouble cutting those last few lbs and probably inched closer to kidney problems than some of the other fighters. Tried to pack the food and water on after the weigh in. Only your body absorbs it slower than your body is gorging it. You need a certain amount of water to process food. Without it you wind up puking in an elevator (like Mikey did) and the water is just passing right through you as your body is absorbing in half sips and you're chugging water by the gallon (trying to fill a thimble with a fire hose) Washing away what few electrolytes you have. Drinking distilled water is worse because its void of minerals and nutrition and will give you the trots. This is how fighters wind up in the hospital or worse after a knockout (with no water to decelerate the brain on abrupt movements)
Goosen been around for a long time and trained Corrales, so he knows where the pitfalls lay. Garcia's ego... that might be a horse of a different color.
Outstanding post and great insight bud. Top notch! We get so caught up in playing accountant, trinket counter and lawyers for fighters today and it gets lost where fighters can be putting themselves physically. One big reason I'm always harping on division jumping for belt grabs. As well as Jr divisions at times. I think maybe it's safe to say that the majority of boxers are competing at unnatural weights and far too often we see the numbers gamed and toggled. We've all come to read a fighter at weigh in, the frame and 'look' of cutting weight. I'll never forget the Manny v Oscar pre fight, Oscar was the definition of gaunt back at 147. But all anyone talked about in the mainstream was Manny moving up up up.

Ultimately I think if it's a mutual agreement and applicable to both fighters a universal rehydration clause could be beneficial. Basically you just get tired of seeing so many top guys manipulate a scale only to come in 12,15,20+ lbs over at the bell. Even the penalty for missing weight can be gamed imo, and some guys may almost factor it in the price of coming in healthiest. Limits may just encourage fighters to move to realistic, healthier divisions. God knows we have enough of them. But it's the belts, blame the belts . It is interesting that both Tank and Ryan have played the numbers. I wonder if Garcia has almost overplayed his hand in the lead up and tune up fight preparation. He was making this gradual move with Tagoe at some weird 139 lb cw and then Fortuna at full 140 next. Both Tagoe and Fortune coming up a few for it. He was slow walking to a next division with declarations about never fighting light again. It felt like both he and Tank didn't think this fight would happen. Then you had Tank who jumped straight to 140 for his belt grab vs a natural 140+ guy in Barrios who is taller and longer reach than a Garcia. At least on paper but that's where frame similarity ends. Come fight night, these two are going to quite the unique sight side by side. As long as Tank brings a ladder and Ryan brings a helmet, I think we may just have an awesome fight.