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    Quote Originally Posted by jbirdy
    bilbo. if you were a hatton fan as you claim you would know that hatton always has trouble with southpaws (
    ever since his amature days many moons ago) but yet he's still fighting another southpaw next year. and if you had followed hatton and mayweather you would see that that is a quality fight in the making.
    Mayweather could switch his stance and become twice the southpaw that Collazo or Urango are.. Hatton doesn't just struggle against southpaws he struggles against talented and motivated fighters. Watch the Collazo fight again, in the post fight even Luis said it was his right hand that hurt Hatton the most.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle
    ....actually I think more people want Hatton-Cotto than Hatton-Mayweather


    Main reason is you KNOW Hatton-Cotto will be competitive and a BRAWL....Mayweather-Hatton is either just like Floyd's last fight or Hatton wrestles him all night
    Yep, Hatton Cotto is the goods!
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    Quote Originally Posted by p4pking
    Quote Originally Posted by jbirdy
    bilbo. if you were a hatton fan as you claim you would know that hatton always has trouble with southpaws (
    ever since his amature days many moons ago) but yet he's still fighting another southpaw next year. and if you had followed hatton and mayweather you would see that that is a quality fight in the making.
    Mayweather could switch his stance and become twice the southpaw that Collazo or Urango are.. Hatton doesn't just struggle against southpaws he struggles against talented and motivated fighters. Watch the Collazo fight again, in the post fight even Luis said it was his right hand that hurt Hatton the most.
    Anyone is going to have problems with talented motivated fighters ! the only problem Hatton had with Collozo was the sheer size difference. Its hard to impose your will on a bigger stronger fighter. 147 was just to big for Ricky's style. even so and he still pulled out the win.. Urango is a southpaw, but negates that advantage by squaring up .. Should be a great fight !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lords Gym
    Quote Originally Posted by p4pking
    Quote Originally Posted by jbirdy
    bilbo. if you were a hatton fan as you claim you would know that hatton always has trouble with southpaws (
    ever since his amature days many moons ago) but yet he's still fighting another southpaw next year. and if you had followed hatton and mayweather you would see that that is a quality fight in the making.
    Mayweather could switch his stance and become twice the southpaw that Collazo or Urango are.. Hatton doesn't just struggle against southpaws he struggles against talented and motivated fighters. Watch the Collazo fight again, in the post fight even Luis said it was his right hand that hurt Hatton the most.
    Anyone is going to have problems with talented motivated fighters ! the only problem Hatton had with Collozo was the sheer size difference. Its hard to impose your will on a bigger stronger fighter. 147 was just to big for Ricky's style. even so and he still pulled out the win.. Urango is a southpaw, but negates that advantage by squaring up .. Should be a great fight !
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lords Gym
    Quote Originally Posted by p4pking
    Quote Originally Posted by jbirdy
    bilbo. if you were a hatton fan as you claim you would know that hatton always has trouble with southpaws (
    ever since his amature days many moons ago) but yet he's still fighting another southpaw next year. and if you had followed hatton and mayweather you would see that that is a quality fight in the making.
    Mayweather could switch his stance and become twice the southpaw that Collazo or Urango are.. Hatton doesn't just struggle against southpaws he struggles against talented and motivated fighters. Watch the Collazo fight again, in the post fight even Luis said it was his right hand that hurt Hatton the most.
    Anyone is going to have problems with talented motivated fighters ! the only problem Hatton had with Collozo was the sheer size difference. Its hard to impose your will on a bigger stronger fighter. 147 was just to big for Ricky's style. even so and he still pulled out the win.. Urango is a southpaw, but negates that advantage by squaring up .. Should be a great fight !
    Yet Mayweather didn't have problems with Baldomirs size difference.... Why was that? Because he just ran, Im sure you'll say.. Never mind the fact that he can execute a different game plan and adapt if he needs to.. Hatton can't. And if he and Urango are in a competitive fight it just takes away from Hattons status even more.. Urango is nothing he has lost decisevly to the two decent opponents he's fought.. Urango, and even moreso Arnatouis.

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    Hatton - Mayweather: Fight stops on cuts around round 9 as Hattons eye is a bloody mess, or a shutout for Mayweather. 120 - 108 Mayweather.

    Hatton - Cotto: Hatton TKO 4 - 8, Cotto likes to brawl, Hatton would win a brawl with Cotto because Hatton could take Cottos best shots which is impressive but Cotto could go 12 rounds with Hatton. Hatton by TKO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by p4pking
    Quote Originally Posted by Lords Gym
    Quote Originally Posted by p4pking
    Quote Originally Posted by jbirdy
    bilbo. if you were a hatton fan as you claim you would know that hatton always has trouble with southpaws (
    ever since his amature days many moons ago) but yet he's still fighting another southpaw next year. and if you had followed hatton and mayweather you would see that that is a quality fight in the making.
    Mayweather could switch his stance and become twice the southpaw that Collazo or Urango are.. Hatton doesn't just struggle against southpaws he struggles against talented and motivated fighters. Watch the Collazo fight again, in the post fight even Luis said it was his right hand that hurt Hatton the most.
    Anyone is going to have problems with talented motivated fighters ! the only problem Hatton had with Collozo was the sheer size difference. Its hard to impose your will on a bigger stronger fighter. 147 was just to big for Ricky's style. even so and he still pulled out the win.. Urango is a southpaw, but negates that advantage by squaring up .. Should be a great fight !
    Yet Mayweather didn't have problems with Baldomirs size difference.... Why was that? Because he just ran, Im sure you'll say.. Never mind the fact that he can execute a different game plan and adapt if he needs to.. Hatton can't. And if he and Urango are in a competitive fight it just takes away from Hattons status even more.. Urango is nothing he has lost decisevly to the two decent opponents he's fought.. Urango, and even moreso Arnatouis.
    Your a mind reader P4P !! ... yes styles do dictate what you can and cannot do ... Mayweather style is hit and run.. now he can fight when he feels un threatened. but if he feels the heat from a bigger fighter he can stick and move... on the other hand Hatton is a come right str8 at you type fighter, who imposes his will on his opponent.. Hatton's style does not lend itself to moving up and fighting bigger guys ! how are you going to bully a bigger stronger fighter? You can't , simple mathematics . Hatton is 5'6 on his tip toes ! 140 is where he belongs ! Excellent fighter this Urango fellow... its going to be a real crowd pleasing fight !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pantera
    I don't know why everyone is looking past this Urango fight like it's gonna be a pushover.
    Yea, I agree, Urango truely lost his fight to Ben Rabah. But BR was on his bike the whole fight and Urango could do nothing but chase him around the ring and get countered. Hatton is gonna come at Urango and trade. I hate to tell ya', but Urango has some mean power! He might not have been able to connect with BR, but he WILL connect with Hatton. I'm not sayin Urango is gonna pull of the upset, but it will be a war and if Urango sneaks in a good combo, it might shock Hatton. Whatever the result, I see this being full of fireworks throughout the fight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lords Gym
    Quote Originally Posted by p4pking
    Quote Originally Posted by Lords Gym
    Quote Originally Posted by p4pking
    Quote Originally Posted by jbirdy
    bilbo. if you were a hatton fan as you claim you would know that hatton always has trouble with southpaws (
    ever since his amature days many moons ago) but yet he's still fighting another southpaw next year. and if you had followed hatton and mayweather you would see that that is a quality fight in the making.
    Mayweather could switch his stance and become twice the southpaw that Collazo or Urango are.. Hatton doesn't just struggle against southpaws he struggles against talented and motivated fighters. Watch the Collazo fight again, in the post fight even Luis said it was his right hand that hurt Hatton the most.
    Anyone is going to have problems with talented motivated fighters ! the only problem Hatton had with Collozo was the sheer size difference. Its hard to impose your will on a bigger stronger fighter. 147 was just to big for Ricky's style. even so and he still pulled out the win.. Urango is a southpaw, but negates that advantage by squaring up .. Should be a great fight !
    Yet Mayweather didn't have problems with Baldomirs size difference.... Why was that? Because he just ran, Im sure you'll say.. Never mind the fact that he can execute a different game plan and adapt if he needs to.. Hatton can't. And if he and Urango are in a competitive fight it just takes away from Hattons status even more.. Urango is nothing he has lost decisevly to the two decent opponents he's fought.. Urango, and even moreso Arnatouis.
    Your a mind reader P4P !! ... yes styles do dictate what you can and cannot do ... Mayweather style is hit and run.. now he can fight when he feels un threatened. but if he feels the heat from a bigger fighter he can stick and move... on the other hand Hatton is a come right str8 at you type fighter, who imposes his will on his opponent.. Hatton's style does not lend itself to moving up and fighting bigger guys ! how are you going to bully a bigger stronger fighter? You can't , simple mathematics . Hatton is 5'6 on his tip toes ! 140 is where he belongs ! Excellent fighter this Urango fellow... its going to be a real crowd pleasing fight !
    Spot on lords Gym in your summary cc.

    Hatton was not himself that night against Collazo, he admitted that himself. When you look at the amount of jabs he connected with tells a huge part of it. He landed with 5, now thats not what Ricky would normally do. IMO he fought poorly due to the pressure of his first HBO big fight, the legal wranglings in the lead up to it, and the forced jump up in weight to 147 courtesy of HBO, which inturn resulted in him having just 7 weeks to train for the welter division.
    Hattons desired route, would be to unify the LWW division, fighting Catillo in the process, and then hopefully fighting Floyd back end of 2007. Thats if Floyd is still around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbirdy
    bilbo. if you were a hatton fan as you claim you would know that hatton always has trouble with southpaws (
    ever since his amature days many moons ago) but yet he's still fighting another southpaw next year. and if you had followed hatton and mayweather you would see that that is a quality fight in the making.
    Yep 'll give you he has trouble with southpaws.

    But he would also have trouble with a superfast, superslick boxer like Floyd.

    I can be a genuine fan of a fighter, as I am of Hatton, whilst still being realistic enough to recognise that he's just not in the same league as Mayweather.

    Think Calzaghe Lacy, Mayweather Coralles, Mayweather Gatti, Mayweather Baldimor etc.

    I love Jeff Lacy and Diego Coralles too but they sure as hell got owned when they fought an elite boxing tactiction and I fear Ricky would be no different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mattyhitman
    Quote Originally Posted by Lords Gym
    Quote Originally Posted by p4pking
    Quote Originally Posted by Lords Gym
    Quote Originally Posted by p4pking
    Quote Originally Posted by jbirdy
    bilbo. if you were a hatton fan as you claim you would know that hatton always has trouble with southpaws (
    ever since his amature days many moons ago) but yet he's still fighting another southpaw next year. and if you had followed hatton and mayweather you would see that that is a quality fight in the making.
    Mayweather could switch his stance and become twice the southpaw that Collazo or Urango are.. Hatton doesn't just struggle against southpaws he struggles against talented and motivated fighters. Watch the Collazo fight again, in the post fight even Luis said it was his right hand that hurt Hatton the most.
    Anyone is going to have problems with talented motivated fighters ! the only problem Hatton had with Collozo was the sheer size difference. Its hard to impose your will on a bigger stronger fighter. 147 was just to big for Ricky's style. even so and he still pulled out the win.. Urango is a southpaw, but negates that advantage by squaring up .. Should be a great fight !
    Yet Mayweather didn't have problems with Baldomirs size difference.... Why was that? Because he just ran, Im sure you'll say.. Never mind the fact that he can execute a different game plan and adapt if he needs to.. Hatton can't. And if he and Urango are in a competitive fight it just takes away from Hattons status even more.. Urango is nothing he has lost decisevly to the two decent opponents he's fought.. Urango, and even moreso Arnatouis.
    Your a mind reader P4P !! ... yes styles do dictate what you can and cannot do ... Mayweather style is hit and run.. now he can fight when he feels un threatened. but if he feels the heat from a bigger fighter he can stick and move... on the other hand Hatton is a come right str8 at you type fighter, who imposes his will on his opponent.. Hatton's style does not lend itself to moving up and fighting bigger guys ! how are you going to bully a bigger stronger fighter? You can't , simple mathematics . Hatton is 5'6 on his tip toes ! 140 is where he belongs ! Excellent fighter this Urango fellow... its going to be a real crowd pleasing fight !
    Spot on lords Gym in your summary cc.

    Hatton was not himself that night against Collazo, he admitted that himself. When you look at the amount of jabs he connected with tells a huge part of it. He landed with 5, now thats not what Ricky would normally do. IMO he fought poorly due to the pressure of his first HBO big fight, the legal wranglings in the lead up to it, and the forced jump up in weight to 147 courtesy of HBO, which inturn resulted in him having just 7 weeks to train for the welter division.
    Hattons desired route, would be to unify the LWW division, fighting Catillo in the process, and then hopefully fighting Floyd back end of 2007. Thats if Floyd is still around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bilbo
    Quote Originally Posted by jbirdy
    bilbo. if you were a hatton fan as you claim you would know that hatton always has trouble with southpaws (
    ever since his amature days many moons ago) but yet he's still fighting another southpaw next year. and if you had followed hatton and mayweather you would see that that is a quality fight in the making.
    Yep 'll give you he has trouble with southpaws.

    But he would also have trouble with a superfast, superslick boxer like Floyd.

    I can be a genuine fan of a fighter, as I am of Hatton, whilst still being realistic enough to recognise that he's just not in the same league as Mayweather.

    Think Calzaghe Lacy, Mayweather Coralles, Mayweather Gatti, Mayweather Baldimor etc.

    I love Jeff Lacy and Diego Coralles too but they sure as hell got owned when they fought an elite boxing tactiction and I fear Ricky would be no different.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bilbo
    I can't see how any true fight fan would want to see Hatton vs Mayweather.

    Hatton is like Baldomir, only not as big and not as strong.

    Mayweather would stop him in the late rounds after giving him the beat down to end all beat downs.

    And I'm a brit and a Hatton fan. No way Hatton mixes it with Mayweather.

    Collazo was a test that stretched him to his limits, what do you think Floyd would do to him?
    Would Baldomir beat Tszyu then?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bilbo
    I can't see how any true fight fan would want to see Hatton vs Mayweather.

    Hatton is like Baldomir, only not as big and not as strong.

    Mayweather would stop him in the late rounds after giving him the beat down to end all beat downs.

    And I'm a brit and a Hatton fan. No way Hatton mixes it with Mayweather.

    Collazo was a test that stretched him to his limits, what do you think Floyd would do to him?


    You cant be serious? Hatton is miles and miles and miles better than baldimor in every aspect of the game with the exception maybe of strength

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    Quote Originally Posted by albsur2006
    I think that the biggest fight that everyone has been wanting since 2005 has been PBF vs Hatton. Honestly, I think everyone can agree that maybe Hatton doesn't wanna fight PBF. At first, I thought maybe Hatton has other plans, but what other plans could he have? He didn't want to fight PBF at 140 in 2005 because he openly said he wasn't ready. In 2006, PBF chased the fight a bit but Hatton priced himself out to the tune of 13 million dollars. Now Hatton is choosing to move back down to 140 and chase titles again after initially moving up to 147 because PBF was. I would easily say Hatton doesn't want none of PBF, but every once while he'll give an interview saying that he doesn't think that Floyd is that impressive and blah, blah, blah. I don't understand what his plans are. Anybody that keeps up with Ricky, what do you think he is doing? Is he happy with making good money fighting mandatories for the rest of his career without a big challenge or is he waiting until he gets more experience?

    Right my slant on this is, yes if Hatton fights PBF it will defintly be the most dangerous fight out there for him and his career, but if the fight was to happen right now what sort of money would be ont he table?? Id say tops $15 million, at worst id see Hatton taking 40/60 in PBF favour if in America, so that would mean $9 million to PBF and $6 million Hatton, firstly would PBF be happy with giving up such a share when he can fight the likes of Baldomir and others for like 80/20 split?? I dont think so, Hatton is still basically making his name in the American boxing world, and he wants to hold more cards when negotiating with PBF, for example if he beats Uranga then puts on a show against Castillo in the summer of 07, then the American public will no more about him and this will give him more negotiating skills meaning he can claim more money, Hatton would fight PBF no problem but he wants to be paid what he feels he is worth similar to PBF.

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