WTF is stopping Canelo from fighting Benavidez?

[TIC]

david b's team had already signed to fight david morrell before sending the offer to team canelo

[Ron Swanson]

david b's team had already signed to fight david morrell before sending the offer to team canelo

Yes, and if Canelo agreed they would pay Morrell to step aside. Standard stuff if the big name wants a fight.

[TIC]

david b's team had already signed to fight david morrell before sending the offer to team canelo

Yes, and if Canelo agreed they would pay Morrell to step aside. Standard stuff if the big name wants a fight.

if you've already signed to fight someone why are you sending an offer to someone else? i call that clout chasing

[TIC]

canelo has been trying to get the dmitry rematch for september. david b's pbc plan was to fight caleb plant, david morrell & demetrius andrade

[Ron Swanson]

david b's team had already signed to fight david morrell before sending the offer to team canelo

Yes, and if Canelo agreed they would pay Morrell to step aside. Standard stuff if the big name wants a fight.

if you've already signed to fight someone why are you sending an offer to someone else? i call that clout chasing

It’s only clout chasing if you don’t actually want the fight. Do you have any evidence David doesn’t want the fight? Anything that would suggest it at all? Anything in David’s history to select he picks and chooses, anything?

Not being argumentative, just genuinely have never heard anything to suggest anything other than he has wanted a Canelo fight for a long time. I’m willing to listen if there’s something I’m not considering

[TIC]

david b's team had already signed to fight david morrell before sending the offer to team canelo

Yes, and if Canelo agreed they would pay Morrell to step aside. Standard stuff if the big name wants a fight.

if you've already signed to fight someone why are you sending an offer to someone else? i call that clout chasing

It’s only clout chasing if you don’t actually want the fight. Do you have any evidence David doesn’t want the fight? Anything that would suggest it at all? Anything in David’s history to select he picks and chooses, anything?

Not being argumentative, just genuinely have never heard anything to suggest anything other than he has wanted a Canelo fight for a long time. I’m willing to listen if there’s something I’m not considering

it's clout chasing if you've already signed to fight someone else. have i ever said david b doesn't want the canelo fight? don't attach arguments to me that i haven't made. that's a strawman that you've created to attack. canelo has been pursuing a dmitry rematch for september. this has been his plan since his surgery. he was going to have fight in may & then try to rematch dmitry in september. david b's pbc plan was to fight caleb plant, david morrell & demetrius andrade

[Ron Swanson]

david b's team had already signed to fight david morrell before sending the offer to team canelo

Yes, and if Canelo agreed they would pay Morrell to step aside. Standard stuff if the big name wants a fight.

if you've already signed to fight someone why are you sending an offer to someone else? i call that clout chasing

It’s only clout chasing if you don’t actually want the fight. Do you have any evidence David doesn’t want the fight? Anything that would suggest it at all? Anything in David’s history to select he picks and chooses, anything?

Not being argumentative, just genuinely have never heard anything to suggest anything other than he has wanted a Canelo fight for a long time. I’m willing to listen if there’s something I’m not considering

it's clout chasing if you've already signed to fight someone else. have i ever said david b doesn't want the canelo fight? don't attach arguments to me that i haven't made. that's a strawman that you've created to attack. canelo has been pursuing a dmitry rematch for september. this has been his plan since his surgery. he was going to have fight in may & then try to rematch dmitry in september. david b's pbc plan was to fight caleb plant, david morrell & demetrius andrade

Jesus, I put in a qualifier to explain I’m not being aggressive, that I’m genuinely asking you a question and still you went defensive.

Relax man. I’m just trying to ask you if there is something about David I haven’t heard? Because he seems like a real one

[Ron Swanson]

F it though TIC if you want to get aggressive. You said David Benavides was clout chasing.

Clout chasing means “attempting to increase their own fame or influence by trying to associate—or engage in conflicts—with those more popular or famous than themselves.”

You said I was attacking a straw man by asking if David actually wanted the fight or if there was a reason to believe he didn’t actually want the fight. You exposed YOURSELF there, not me. You dodged a valid question. Suggesting he is trying to raise his profile means absolutely nothing, every boxer does that. So there would be no reason to say clout chasing about something everyone does. You used the term to try to hint that he doesn’t actually want the fight. Every person here can see that. And that’s why I asked the question. Which you dodged. It isn’t a straw man at all because straw man means “ is the informal fallacy of refuting an argument different from the one actually under discussion,”. In this case it clearly isn’t different. Everyone here recognizes why you said he was clout chasing.

The question becomes are you going to be an honorable person and acknowledge what you were doing or are you to lie when everyone here will know you are lying?

[TIC]

david b's team had already signed to fight david morrell before sending the offer to team canelo

Yes, and if Canelo agreed they would pay Morrell to step aside. Standard stuff if the big name wants a fight.

if you've already signed to fight someone why are you sending an offer to someone else? i call that clout chasing

It’s only clout chasing if you don’t actually want the fight. Do you have any evidence David doesn’t want the fight? Anything that would suggest it at all? Anything in David’s history to select he picks and chooses, anything?

Not being argumentative, just genuinely have never heard anything to suggest anything other than he has wanted a Canelo fight for a long time. I’m willing to listen if there’s something I’m not considering

it's clout chasing if you've already signed to fight someone else. have i ever said david b doesn't want the canelo fight? don't attach arguments to me that i haven't made. that's a strawman that you've created to attack. canelo has been pursuing a dmitry rematch for september. this has been his plan since his surgery. he was going to have fight in may & then try to rematch dmitry in september. david b's pbc plan was to fight caleb plant, david morrell & demetrius andrade

Jesus, I put in a qualifier to explain I’m not being aggressive, that I’m genuinely asking you a question and still you went defensive.

Relax man. I’m just trying to ask you if there is something about David I haven’t heard? Because he seems like a real one

why wouldn't i be relaxed when i am pointing out truth?