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    Default Re: WTF is stopping Canelo from fighting Benavidez?

    Quote Originally Posted by Denilson3.0 View Post

    Dazn isn't a real player in 'Murica, GBP is imploding and is lead by a basehead and ESPN just doesn't have the talent for Canelo.

    Canelo ? This white boy has some BALLS !! Charlo is the real bogeyman.

    I don't get the Benvadez thing.

    Unless he has great front skills and has as good of a "I'm coming to get ya" style as a Roberto Duran or a prime Mike Tyson then you're not beating Canelo with that slow one paced come forward style. Look at the fighters who gave Canelo the most problems ? Bivol and Money. What do they do ? They move. They fight at distance. They make the fight, a fight of athletism just as much as a fight. They have fast hands. Punch and get out. Benavidez does not of that.

    Benny's best accomplishment is going the distance with a guy Canelo just knocked out the year before .....whole damn resume full of bums but some ppl's goofy ass think he's the sh*t.

    Stop with all your jibber-jabbing @TitoFan

    Canelo is the cash cow and he's doing cash cow shyte.

    Charlo is the one guy I thought Canelo would NEVER fight. Well guess what I'm happy to say I was wrong. And see this is what I mean when I say if the fighters want the fight they make it happen.

    He has a three fight deal now.

    1. September 2023: Charlo
    2. May 2024: Benavidez
    3. September 2024: Spence at 164 if (and it's a BIG "if") he beats Crawford


    Balls??

    Damn... that's when I KNEW you'd lost the plot.

    Charlo's the "real bogeyman" why... 'cause he's a "brother"? Gimme a break, dude. We all know how your boxing mind works. Hell... you put Monfils and Tsonga as 2 and 3 on your tennis GOAT list.

    Regardless... I can't help you if you can't tell that Ginger has ducked Benavidez every which way but loose.

    - Bivol wouldn't cave to his demands.

    - Jack told him to go jump in a lake and hurry up and give the fans what they want and fight Benavidez already.

    So who's next? Charlo.

    Don't get me wrong. I'll be rooting so hard for Charlo, it'll seem like we're related or something.

    But the guy hasn't fought in literally TWO FUKKING YEARS. That's a lifetime in boxing.

    Also... (and I shouldn't have to be spelling these things out for you)... has it escaped your attention that Charlo has NEVER fought above 160??

    Are you so desperate for Canelo to fight a "brother" that you overlook this very important fact??

    This is a "Golovkin repeat", FOR FUKK'S SAKE!!

    Did you forget how Canelo dragged the 40-year old GGG's ass to 168 to beat him also.




    You see... this is what happens when objectivity gives way to fandom.

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    Default Re: WTF is stopping Canelo from fighting Benavidez?

    I honestly cannot listen to Spence for Canelo after it takes years to make/yet to win the biggest fight of his entire career and keep a straight face . It seemed to start immediately after Canelo getting him sone PBC, even prior with Spence speaking on it. Maybe I'm just too uptight for this new norm of guys arbitrarily bouncing around divisions while at the same time avoiding major fights in their very own reasonable and expected division. Yes, Spence is naturally bigger for 147...it's been mentioned for years now flirting with 154. But it gets ridiculous when the hypothetical meets the reality on the ground that we're all seeing before us. This 3 divisions to fit inside a year and a half. Silly stuff. We're not that desperate for BIG name fights. Plenty of work for Canelo yet to be done. Still. Take your Charlo from mothballs and do good work. But leave the welters and jr middles alone.

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    Default Re: WTF is stopping Canelo from fighting Benavidez?

    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    I honestly cannot listen to Spence for Canelo after it takes years to make/yet to win the biggest fight of his entire career and keep a straight face . It seemed to start immediately after Canelo getting him sone PBC, even prior with Spence speaking on it. Maybe I'm just too uptight for this new norm of guys arbitrarily bouncing around divisions while at the same time avoiding major fights in their very own reasonable and expected division. Yes, Spence is naturally bigger for 147...it's been mentioned for years now flirting with 154. But it gets ridiculous when the hypothetical meets the reality on the ground that we're all seeing before us. This 3 divisions to fit inside a year and a half. Silly stuff. We're not that desperate for BIG name fights. Plenty of work for Canelo yet to be done. Still. Take your Charlo from mothballs and do good work. But leave the welters and jr middles alone.

    Right??

    Where the hell did Spence come from? And who's to say he's gonna get past Crawford?

    Are we going to have a repeat of Canelo vs. Khan??

    'Cause of course we all remember what kind of circus... er... fight that was.

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    Default Re: WTF is stopping Canelo from fighting Benavidez?

    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    But the guy hasn't fought in literally TWO FUKKING YEARS. That's a lifetime in boxing.

    has it escaped your attention that Charlo has NEVER fought above 160??
    do we even know if jermall can make one sixty after two years out?
    It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.

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    Default Re: WTF is stopping Canelo from fighting Benavidez?

    Quote Originally Posted by TIC View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    But the guy hasn't fought in literally TWO FUKKING YEARS. That's a lifetime in boxing.

    has it escaped your attention that Charlo has NEVER fought above 160??
    do we even know if jermall can make one sixty after two years out?

    Good question. Some fighters balloon up in weight (see: Ricky Hatton), while others keep themselves in fighting shape and weight no matter how long they're out.

    Whichever the case might be with Charlo, they'd better bring an industrial-sized vacuum cleaner for all the ring rust that night.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TIC View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    But the guy hasn't fought in literally TWO FUKKING YEARS. That's a lifetime in boxing.

    has it escaped your attention that Charlo has NEVER fought above 160??
    do we even know if jermall can make one sixty after two years out?

    Good question. Some fighters balloon up in weight (see: Ricky Hatton), while others keep themselves in fighting shape and weight no matter how long they're out.

    Whichever the case might be with Charlo, they'd better bring an industrial-sized vacuum cleaner for all the ring rust that night.
    he was looking pretty big in a picture i saw about a month ago, like unrecognisably big
    It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.

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    Default Re: WTF is stopping Canelo from fighting Benavidez?

    Seems the outrage is growing...

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mor...nts%20to%20see.

    "Juan Manuel Marquez believes Canelo should get stripped of the title"


    "Many questions have been raised regarding Canelo's lack of interest in fighting David Benavidez; as for now, it looks like a mandatory title defense for him, yet he has been avoiding offers presented. Canelo may most likely end up fighting Jermall Charlo; next, he is expected to fight to him in September – it's not officially confirmed, but it appears to be a done deal.

    The veteran Juan Manuel Marquez recently spoke about Canelo; he doesn't seem to be very pleased with the fact that Canelo is turning down a fight against David Benavidez and is instead fighting other opponents. He believes Canelo should be stripped of the title.

    Recently on ProBox TV, Espanol, Juan Manuel Marquez spoke about Canelo's indecision to fight Benavidez, who, in his eyes, is a worthy title challenger for the belts in Canelo's possession. Marquez believes the respected authorities should snatch Canelo's belts since he's avoiding a title defense that the whole world wants to see.

    "They have to ignore and strip the champion of the title if he does not want to make his mandatory defense, and it seems that it is the World Boxing Council that has to exercise the regulations," Marquez said as quoted by marca.com.

    "We are clear, the regulations have to be carried out, of course we know that Benavidez is the official challenger and he has to fight Canelo Alvarez". Marquez continued: "He is the undisputed champion at 168 pounds, he has to make the mandatory defense, if Canelo doesn't want to fight Benavidez, he has to leave the title vacant".

    Canelo was also interested in a rematch against Bivol, but due to failed negotiations, he had to look for new opponents. Jermal Charlo has been inactive for more than 2 years, and it will be interesting to see if he is actually next for Canelo. In the upcoming days, we could get an official announcement for Canelo's next fight."



    That's not a hating boxing fan talking. That's a true Mexican great and warrior.

    I've always liked JMM.

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    Default Re: WTF is stopping Canelo from fighting Benavidez?

    i always liked dinamita but he has always seemed envious of canelo's success. has juan got the same energy about errol not fighting an ibf mandatory since carlos ocampo or what about jermall not defending against ibf mandatory bakhram murtazaliev? was juan asked for his opinion on those mandatories?
    It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.

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    Default Re: WTF is stopping Canelo from fighting Benavidez?

    Quote Originally Posted by TIC View Post
    i always liked dinamita but he has always seemed envious of canelo's success. has juan got the same energy about errol not fighting an ibf mandatory since carlos ocampo or what about jermall not defending against ibf mandatory bakhram murtazaliev? was juan asked for his opinion on those mandatories?


    I think JMM limits his opinions to other Mexicans.

    Although Mexico and my home of Puerto Rico have always had one of the best rivalries in boxing... and I always root for my home fighter... I've learned to admire (and be a fan of) Mexican warriors in the past. Warriors who exemplified what it is to fight ANYBODY, ANYWHERE, ANYTIME. Diva clauses be damned. If they lose a championship fight... so what. They come back stronger for the next fight and learn from their mistakes.

    Canelo is none of that. I've ALWAYS criticized and disliked him for that... and it's heartening to see a fellow Mexican do it also.

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