Marvin Hagler's chin. How would it hold up to Julian Jackson or Nigel Benn.

[ICB]

Just out of interest,who in the history of boxing would have beaten a prime Nigel Benn in your warped opinion.

Anybody who went in with a prime Nigel Benn with an orthodox defense and without a chin of granite would of been knocked out, unless they knocked him out before he knocked them out. Simple as that.

Michael Watson beat him because he opened his gloves and cupped both sides of his forehead, dipped in with those elbows to protect himself from bodyshots and remained upright and very close to Benn to not allow him the full leverage he liked. Watson's tactics were outstandingly brilliant that night, Benn's were unbelievably stupid (punching himself out on Watson's arms and gloves to the point where he would hit the canvas from a jab). Eubank beat him because his chin was made from a piece of granite.

What happened to DD?

He posts on Boxingscene now slagging off RJJ and hyping up Chris Eubank as usual, i have no idea how he gets all the info on Chris Eubank. I sometimes think he really is Chris Eubank, he is certainly weird enough to be him.

[Fenster]

Anybody who went in with a prime Nigel Benn with an orthodox defense and without a chin of granite would of been knocked out, unless they knocked him out before he knocked them out. Simple as that.

Michael Watson beat him because he opened his gloves and cupped both sides of his forehead, dipped in with those elbows to protect himself from bodyshots and remained upright and very close to Benn to not allow him the full leverage he liked. Watson's tactics were outstandingly brilliant that night, Benn's were unbelievably stupid (punching himself out on Watson's arms and gloves to the point where he would hit the canvas from a jab). Eubank beat him because his chin was made from a piece of granite.

What happened to DD?

He posts on Boxingscene now slagging off RJJ and hyping up Chris Eubank as usual, i have no idea how he gets all the info on Chris Eubank. I sometimes think he really is Chris Eubank, he is certainly weird enough to be him.

So he's still about then? Considering he is a loon i thought he probably ended up inside. Saddo must have banned him. Didn't realise.

[ICB]

What happened to DD?

He posts on Boxingscene now slagging off RJJ and hyping up Chris Eubank as usual, i have no idea how he gets all the info on Chris Eubank. I sometimes think he really is Chris Eubank, he is certainly weird enough to be him.

So he's still about then? Considering he is a loon i thought he probably ended up inside. Saddo must have banned him. Didn't realise.

Yea when this place is slow i sometimes have a quick browse on boxingscene, and i see him on there. His name is Orange something, its for certain for him i checked his posts there all about Chris Eubank or slagging off RJJ's amateur record ETC, basically the same stuff he posted on here.

[porkypara]

I guess we'll have to agree to disagree

Just out of interest,who in the history of boxing would have beaten a prime Nigel Benn in your warped opinion.

Anybody who went in with a prime Nigel Benn with an orthodox defense and without a chin of granite would of been knocked out, unless they knocked him out before he knocked them out. Simple as that.

Michael Watson beat him because he opened his gloves and cupped both sides of his forehead, dipped in with those elbows to protect himself from bodyshots and remained upright and very close to Benn to not allow him the full leverage he liked. Watson's tactics were outstandingly brilliant that night, Benn's were unbelievably stupid (punching himself out on Watson's arms and gloves to the point where he would hit the canvas from a jab). Eubank beat him because his chin was made from a piece of granite.

Like who for example?

[oakleyno1]

imo while unbeaten mugabihit harder than anyone including jackson hearns or the g man, ever nearly the same fighyter after he realized he wasnt invincible

[Scrap]

Having taken Nige on the pads afew times hes not the greatest of punchers but fast and single minded. The guy who said about Mugabi I saw him drop world class heavys in sparring he could really hit and I mean HIT

[ICB]

Having taken Nige on the pads afew times hes not the greatest of punchers but fast and single minded. The guy who said about Mugabi I saw him drop world class heavys in sparring he could really hit and I mean HIT

scrap did u do pro boxing ?? or was u a trainer ??

[Scrap]

Trainer still am but Im very selective in what I do in my old age, Ive had the teeshirt

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Hagler gobbled up big punching brutes like piranhas shredding a carcass.

Witness what he did to Hearns & Mugabi, when he was ageing & slow, is enough to tell you that Benn & Jackson would have ended up flat on their backs.

[LegendBoxing65]

I am not sure Hagler was aging and slow with Hearns. I think that was his last fight where he was sharp and active in boxing. After that he seemed to lose a step by taking a year off. He seemed to lose some motivation after Hearns as though he reached the pinnacle and put his all in the Hearns fight. But he was not that slow with Hearns. He seemed fast enough and pretty good reflexes. With Mugabi after a year off he seemed more slow and then with Leonard he seemed even slower. I think Hearns was the last fight he was the real Marvin Hagler.

[ICB]

I am not sure Hagler was aging and slow with Hearns. I think that was his last fight where he was sharp and active in boxing. After that he seemed to lose a step by taking a year off. He seemed to lose some motivation after Hearns as though he reached the pinnacle and put his all in the Hearns fight. But he was not that slow with Hearns. He seemed fast enough and pretty good reflexes. With Mugabi after a year off he seemed more slow and then with Leonard he seemed even slower. I think Hearns was the last fight he was the real Marvin Hagler.

to be honest mate i think he done brilliant in the mugabi fight

[Violent Demise]

I am not sure Hagler was aging and slow with Hearns. I think that was his last fight where he was sharp and active in boxing. After that he seemed to lose a step by taking a year off. He seemed to lose some motivation after Hearns as though he reached the pinnacle and put his all in the Hearns fight. But he was not that slow with Hearns. He seemed fast enough and pretty good reflexes. With Mugabi after a year off he seemed more slow and then with Leonard he seemed even slower. I think Hearns was the last fight he was the real Marvin Hagler.

That's underestandable. Hagler won the fight. But he took a good amount of flush shots against Hearns. A murderous puncher. I think that caused him to slow down. I doubt it was motivation. He was motivated for Leonard.

[LegendBoxing65]

I think he was motivated for Ray but not like he was for Hearns. Hearns really brought out his last great fight and effort. He was pumped up because of Hearns attitude and cockiness before the fight and he had been active to that point. The Mugabi fight I think surprised Hagler. I am not sure he expected that hard a fight. He had not been active to that point, and after beating Hearns he mentioned retiring since he could not get much more of a high than the Hearns fight.

[baller]

Never seen either of those two but Hagler was not all chin. Hagler had one of the best chins but his defense and his chin is what would make it hard for anyone to stop him. If you watch his fights Hagler never allowed anyone teeing off on him with hard combos. He would take single big punches and make sure the other guy don't follow up with more punches. Like Mugabi's uppercut or Hearns right or Sibson's hook. Another thing, KO's mostly happen mostly from counter punching and Hagler almost never got counter punched because of his defense and reflexes. He had underrated defense.

[LegendBoxing65]

Nice analysing Baller. He really did not get countered a second time, although with Hearns he took some big punches to the head and body. With Hearns he tucked his head in and let his arms fly.