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    Default Re: Oleksandr Usyk v Daniel Dubois

    Dubois should be champion today.
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    I said at the time I thought Usyk exaggerated a bit and wanted an early night with a Dubois DQ. But all this talk of Dubois being robbed and “it should’ve been a knockout for Dubois” are nonsense and pure conjecture.
    I firmly believe if the ref had started to count, Usyk would’ve got up, would’ve have had an uncomfortable round, but he would’ve held on and then had a rest , and come back out and continue to win rounds and the fight.
    I don’t think Dubois has the Boxing IQ to be able to capitalise.
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    I'm now fully of the view it wasn't a low blow.

    As outclassed as he was Dubois should be world champion today.

    They should have made more of it at the time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark TKO View Post
    I'm now fully of the view it wasn't a low blow.

    As outclassed as he was Dubois should be world champion today.

    They should have made more of it at the time.
    He didn’t make more of it, because he didn’t feel robbed. When Usyk went over to him after the fight, if he felt he’d been robbed, he would’ve acted very differently.
    It’s only when Frank Warren came in and started talking that he started to feel robbed.
    Basically he quit , he never won a round, no way should he be World Champion.
    I get it though. He wants a rematch, so he can make more dough. If he doesn’t get the rematch (which he won’t ) he is gonna take a massive drop in money and level of opponent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mark TKO View Post
    I'm now fully of the view it wasn't a low blow.

    As outclassed as he was Dubois should be world champion today.

    They should have made more of it at the time.
    He didn’t make more of it, because he didn’t feel robbed. When Usyk went over to him after the fight, if he felt he’d been robbed, he would’ve acted very differently.
    It’s only when Frank Warren came in and started talking that he started to feel robbed.
    Basically he quit , he never won a round, no way should he be World Champion.
    I get it though. He wants a rematch, so he can make more dough. If he doesn’t get the rematch (which he won’t ) he is gonna take a massive drop in money and level of opponent.
    As I said I turned off straight after the fight. I get it he wants a rematch we all would for the dough. But for me now he knocked Usyk out and I feel for him as much out of his league as he was
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark TKO View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mark TKO View Post
    I'm now fully of the view it wasn't a low blow.

    As outclassed as he was Dubois should be world champion today.

    They should have made more of it at the time.
    He didn’t make more of it, because he didn’t feel robbed. When Usyk went over to him after the fight, if he felt he’d been robbed, he would’ve acted very differently.
    It’s only when Frank Warren came in and started talking that he started to feel robbed.
    Basically he quit , he never won a round, no way should he be World Champion.
    I get it though. He wants a rematch, so he can make more dough. If he doesn’t get the rematch (which he won’t ) he is gonna take a massive drop in money and level of opponent.
    As I said I turned off straight after the fight. I get it he wants a rematch we all would for the dough. But for me now he knocked Usyk out and I feel for him as much out of his league as he was
    Each to their own. I believe if the ref had started counting , Usyk would’ve come through it. We’ll never know I suppose.
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    Default Re: Oleksandr Usyk v Daniel Dubois

    This will be scrutinized more than the Zapruder films. Almost as much as "Fury got a long count" possibly. That's still going too. People out there sighting trajectory, multi conflicting angle on the glove, where the wrinkles on the trunks begin at the point of impact (for real), knuckle line direction on and on. At the end of the day, it's per a referee's discretion and no matter where you end you will use a still shot to make your case. It's all out there. Is a punch below the naval a legal punch? Notice how the refs in the later fights made it a point to be seen defining the point on the trunks they consider low? What's lost is Dubois was basically dominated aside from one blow that landed on AND below the waist band. His reluctance and inability to immediately follow up and capitalize on what some are calling a clean brutal body shot that had THAT kind of impact tells me that maybe it wasn't all that clean. And I guarantee you had he won unified championships on that shot the outrage on "the other side" and in the boxing community would be absolutely deafening. Being honest this type of punch is called low more than not from my memory and again referees are not AI generated automatons. And for all the Fury will wipe the mat with Usyk...well, ok. There he is. Nothing stopping that from being made. Just one man. Usyk already excepted ludicrous terms but ol Fury opted for a day at the fair and the reality TV route. Usyk holds the belts, Tyson presumably wants them. Afterall Usyk is just a middleweight and a total pushover to be mauled and has a glass bladder, or belly. Sooo go get him Tyson. Easy money surely. Make the fight now eh. But I'm betting as is his nature and trend now he'll insist on a 90-10 split as Usyk "got lucky".
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    Default Re: Oleksandr Usyk v Daniel Dubois

    One more thin while we're at it...can this sport finally get with the modern age and implement instant replay . Sure may clear some things up.

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