are you saying pac aint even half of EM's accomplishment?Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
and honestly... who was erik morales before he fought barrera?
he was a champion but aint a legend yet...
morales just became a PPV fighter after the FOTY-1 against barrera
i believe it was 2000 so its just 5 years(september 05)of being WORLD CLASS right?
you said its how long was their regime that matters...
now is that long enough to say pac isnt even close or isnt even half to be specific (thats what you said)
well its ironic that pac got all those belts when he's not yet known WORLD WIDE
but thats primarily because people aint giving enough attention to lower weight classes
take note he came all the way from 108 thats junior fly i believe
and to prove you hes fought champions and defended his belts against champions
he fought on the supporting bouts on an OSCAR DELA HOYA fight twice and the TYSON-LEWIS fight at memphis
im pretty sure everyone who's fighting under (and right before) those main events should be world class
all of them were either champions or world ranked fighters and why do you think he earned a shot against mAB?
and also try to imagine if pac was still in superfly or bantamweight right now
do you seriously think champions like arce, darchinyan,poncedeleon, rmarquez... will have a chance against him?
he actually defined odds when he surprisingly dominated the divisions where the 'stars' were
but i agree with you that he came into the big stage when he defeated barrera and that was 3 years ago
same way as ERIK.. its hard to admitt barrera was the guy who made our fav fighters big stars
then, who has morales beaten... a lot but man...
espadas?!? in jin chi? ayala?!? hernandez?!? they are world class but not legends
maybe chavez and kelly(?) would be legends and when he fought the only other legend barrera twice, he lost as many
(those were close fights and exciting fights though)
i agree hes (EM) always in a war and is really fun to watch and i truly admire his pride
and EM has made pac a household name too (like barrera did) i appreciate that
and pacs pretty much made morales' resume a standout too (admitt it, of all morales had defeated, pac and MAB were the best)
most of EM's fans will agree that the 1st fight with both MAB and pac were the pinnacle and the defining moments of his career
so you cant say pac HASNT EVEN ACHIEVED HAlF OF MORALES accomplishments
ill answer your question with a question... is jmm (whom morales will have his hands full to at least get a draw)
and oscarlarios (another man he'll have problems with) aint world class? seriously man?
and even hector velasquez.. do you think EM can KO him?
and please remember velazquez is a savage body puncher and thats EM's weakness right?
but as much as you say pacfans were absurd with their opinions
you're actually acting the same as them when you underestimated and belittle pac's accomlishments
you gave blinded taughts of a fan and didnt act like the witty and the well informed poster you usually are by giving an understatement with regards to pac's achievements
all you EM and MAB fans say pac has defeated your idols when they're
at the downfall of their careers
but isnt it barrera is in a streak when he was destroyed by pac?
and erik hasnt been KOed nor floored in his whole life?
dont tell me raheem punished him thats why he was shot as all you stated after the rematch with pac
and please name me a fighter in eriks resume who you think pac wont defeat
all i can say is theyre from different eras and they have different divisions where they fit at
and they happened to meet at a time where the one has defeated legends and is already a legend
and the other one is a future legend who is currently destroying legends
ERIK defeated legends as you said
PAC is destroying legends and morales just happens to be one of them
LETS ALL ACCEPT IT - and lets all be open minded and stay cool while waiting for the 'grand finale'
peace mr. moderator
i apologize man.. for the pacfansOriginally Posted by Violent Demise
i STRONGLY agree most of them acts stupid and gives remarks like an idiot
although i kinda like it sometimescuz they seem to be joking unintenionally
just be patient and man... thats a nice breakdown with morales' career moments
i never expected you'll make one
i thought you were gangsta? lol
P.S.
I BELIEVE YOUR JUST AN EM FAN SAME WAY AS ME BEING A PAC FAN
and for the record... and same as you with pac, i too, never said ERIK MORALES SUCKS
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