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This guy is really a certified a** licker. While he mentioned past exploits of his idol when he was at his prime, he glossed over the 3 consecutive losses of his idol which was so recently. Yes, Morales had been a terrific fighter during his prime, but it's different now w/ a younger, faster and well conditioned fighter in Pacquiao. As I've said the most well conditioned fighter in the coming fight will win. And I don't see that in Morales.
If PAC could accomplish HALF of what Eriks done in his career he'd (PAC) be happy.
For now and as of today they are 1-1....
But Erik is a future Hall of Famer and a greater fighter then PAC.
he must be very happy then my friend

Pacquiao Morales
WBC Super Featherweight WBC & IBF Super Featherweight
WBA & IBF Featherweight WBC Featherweight
IBF & WBO Super Bantamweight WBC & WBO Super Bantamweight
WBC Flyweight

oh and lets not forget Pac is only 27 years old and already KTFO of both 'Hall of Famers" Barerra and Morales!!
Thats just 1 aspect of things, belts.... I mean all around which includes a lot more then wining belts, it also includes who hes faught, how long has he been World Class and how long he can stay there.... It takes more then racking belts to become a great. Eriks been World Class for years, not just 3 yrs. or so nobody knew who PAC was 'till the MAB fight. Up untill that they he was just another fighter who was in for his pay check and thats it. he made the best of it and has turned his life around and thats great, hes an exciting fighter to watch..... Another thing who had PAC faught before MAB that was World Class Or had he made noise in any other div. in past years World Wide?
Eriks been among the elite since 1997 and stood there 'till recent times. since 1997 def. one after another with no stumbles 'till he lost to MAB.

are you saying pac aint even half of EM's accomplishment?
and honestly... who was erik morales before he fought barrera?
he was a champion but aint a legend yet...
morales just became a PPV fighter after the FOTY-1 against barrera
i believe it was 2000 so its just 5 years(september 05)of being WORLD CLASS right?
you said its how long was their regime that matters...
now is that long enough to say pac isnt even close or isnt even half to be specific (thats what you said)

well its ironic that pac got all those belts when he's not yet known WORLD WIDE
but thats primarily because people aint giving enough attention to lower weight classes
take note he came all the way from 108 thats junior fly i believe
and to prove you hes fought champions and defended his belts against champions
he fought on the supporting bouts on an OSCAR DELA HOYA fight twice and the TYSON-LEWIS fight at memphis
im pretty sure everyone who's fighting under (and right before) those main events should be world class
all of them were either champions or world ranked fighters and why do you think he earned a shot against mAB?
and also try to imagine if pac was still in superfly or bantamweight right now
do you seriously think champions like arce, darchinyan,poncedeleon, rmarquez... will have a chance against him?
he actually defined odds when he surprisingly dominated the divisions where the 'stars' were

but i agree with you that he came into the big stage when he defeated barrera and that was 3 years ago
same way as ERIK.. its hard to admitt barrera was the guy who made our fav fighters big stars
then, who has morales beaten... a lot but man...
espadas?!? in jin chi? ayala?!? hernandez?!? they are world class but not legends
maybe chavez and kelly(?) would be legends and when he fought the only other legend barrera twice, he lost as many
(those were close fights and exciting fights though)
i agree hes (EM) always in a war and is really fun to watch and i truly admire his pride
and EM has made pac a household name too (like barrera did) i appreciate that
and pacs pretty much made morales' resume a standout too (admitt it, of all morales had defeated, pac and MAB were the best)
most of EM's fans will agree that the 1st fight with both MAB and pac were the pinnacle and the defining moments of his career

so you cant say pac HASNT EVEN ACHIEVED HAlF OF MORALES accomplishments
ill answer your question with a question... is jmm (whom morales will have his hands full to at least get a draw)
and oscarlarios (another man he'll have problems with) aint world class? seriously man?
and even hector velasquez.. do you think EM can KO him?
and please remember velazquez is a savage body puncher and thats EM's weakness right?
but as much as you say pacfans were absurd with their opinions
you're actually acting the same as them when you underestimated and belittle pac's accomlishments
you gave blinded taughts of a fan and didnt act like the witty and the well informed poster you usually are by giving an understatement with regards to pac's achievements

all you EM and MAB fans say pac has defeated your idols when they're
at the downfall of their careers
but isnt it barrera is in a streak when he was destroyed by pac?
and erik hasnt been KOed nor floored in his whole life?
dont tell me raheem punished him thats why he was shot as all you stated after the rematch with pac
and please name me a fighter in eriks resume who you think pac wont defeat
all i can say is theyre from different eras and they have different divisions where they fit at
and they happened to meet at a time where the one has defeated legends and is already a legend
and the other one is a future legend who is currently destroying legends


ERIK defeated legends as you said
PAC is destroying legends and morales just happens to be one of them
LETS ALL ACCEPT IT - and lets all be open minded and stay cool while waiting for the 'grand finale'
peace mr. moderator

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violent demise why don't you put up or shut the hell up...why don't you bet me morales will win...loser gotta be band never post again on saddo boxing forums...your the biggest pac hater here...if your so confident pac will seriously get hurt bet me then...
Ah you see that's where your wrong (and stupid). I like Pac. I always have. I think he's great fighter and I rank him # 2 p4p. I just don't think he's beating Morales on Nov 18. So since I pick Morales to win, I guess that makes me a Pac hater. Right? That's the way it works?
What's your basis then for Morales to win? Just accept that Morales is now below his prime. After a string of losses, this man will need extraordinary luck to win over Pac. Spirit is willing but the flesh is weak. He can always say "I'm at my best." Hell, I have yet to see a boxer in press conference declare that he's in his worst condition. Face the truth. Morales has no chance to win. His legs will give way in the 5th round while Pac gets stronger as the fight progresses.
According to the so-called experts Morales has been below his prime for years. Before the first fight, everybody said Morales had no chance. He had lost the rubber match against Barerra, while Pac had destroy that same Barerra. What happened? Morales kicked Pac's a**. Or am I lying?
THE FIRST FIGHT WAS A CLOSE FIGHT. EM WON BY A FEW POINTS ONLY...THE SECOND FIGHT NOW THAT WAS A wHOOPING...NOW HOW ABOUT THAT BET...i GOT LOVE FOR EM I'M NOT TRYING TO INSULT HIM BUT I GOT PAC IN THE THIRD MATCH...AS FOR YOU VIOLENT DEMISE AS I SAID BEFORE YOUR THE BIGGEST PAC HATER I KNOW...BELIEVE ME I BEEN HERE LONG DON'T DENY IT JUST CAUSE YOU AIN'T GOT BALLS TO BACK UP THE SHYT YOU SAY...
Find me some posts were I've posted that Pac sucks. It shouldn't be a problem, right p4p king? Or should I call you jumont? It's only obvious you two bitches are really the same bitch. Go ahead and deny it bitch. All you Pac groupies are the same. You guys don't like Pac. You guys don't love Pac. You guys lust after Pac. Ain't that right? Fuckin faggots. I'm surprise Pac can even walk you guys ride is dick so hard.
i apologize man.. for the pacfans
i STRONGLY agree most of them acts stupid and gives remarks like an idiot
although i kinda like it sometimes cuz they seem to be joking unintenionally
just be patient and man... thats a nice breakdown with morales' career moments
i never expected you'll make one
i thought you were gangsta? lol
P.S.
I BELIEVE YOUR JUST AN EM FAN SAME WAY AS ME BEING A PAC FAN
and for the record... and same as you with pac, i too, never said ERIK MORALES SUCKS