Gaza

[NoSavingByTheBell]

As an Armenian whose family was 50% wiped out in 1915 in a genocide, I know what a genocide looks like and so should everybody else in Western Europe and the UK and the US, and what Israel is doing in Palestine is definitely a genocide. This has nothing to do with self-defense and also how can an Occupying Force have any moral high ground to claim to defend itself? And how can those downtrodden people who are occupied for 75 years be called terrorists when all they are doing is fighting the occupation after getting zero support from the UN security council resolutions not being enforced thanks to the US and the UK vetoing them for the past 50 years?

The brainwashing in the UK and in the US and in Western Europe is mind boggling.

Oh God please Grant the Palestinians a victory over the zionists who every Orthodox Jew knows do not represent the real Judaism. Zionism is apartheid and a huge mistake and is expressly forbidden in the Torah according to every Orthodox Jewish rabbi I have ever spoken to or heard explain it in countless videos

https://youtu.be/f1CcnlzESvs?si=FP5gYEOBlyLKE7af

[NoSavingByTheBell]

No white person is allowed to have a different opinion than this Orthodox Jewish rabbi.

No white person is allowed to have a different opinion than this and for that matter no non-jew is allowed to have a different opinion than this

https://youtu.be/rptFD3mlI5E?si=2VnwueKt9q8uyfr7

[wrestlemania2033]

I pity the ordinary civilians who are suffering.

[NoSavingByTheBell]

The truth spoken by an Orthodox Jewish rabbi

https://youtu.be/7S17Fr8z_Oo?si=mX67ginbARjG9Vs0

[NoSavingByTheBell]

[12/11, 2:06 PM] 551-358-3890: 🤣🤣🤣 Barbara Woodward
[12/11, 2:08 PM] 551-358-3890: 🤣🤣🤣 Robert Wood

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[Spicoli]

I don't know how many times we need to see mechanized armed to the teeth forces enter a territory and turn civilians into next gen recruits to know how this repeats. Again. And again.

[greynotsoold]

I don't know how many times we need to see mechanized armed to the teeth forces enter a territory and turn civilians into next gen recruits to know how this repeats. Again. And again.

But they wouldn't have done so had there not been the initial attack.
Do you remember all the pictures of armed Israeli citizens going about their lives? Apparently the leadership in Israel thought it proper to disarm those people and...
Personally, if i ran Israel, I would secure the prosperity and security of my people by exterminating every Palestinian that i could find. If I were a Palestinian I would probably have been throwing bombs and causing trouble.

[TitoFan]

I don't know how many times we need to see mechanized armed to the teeth forces enter a territory and turn civilians into next gen recruits to know how this repeats. Again. And again.

But they wouldn't have done so had there not been the initial attack.
Do you remember all the pictures of armed Israeli citizens going about their lives? Apparently the leadership in Israel thought it proper to disarm those people and...
Personally, if i ran Israel, I would secure the prosperity and security of my people by exterminating every Palestinian that i could find. If I were a Palestinian I would probably have been throwing bombs and causing trouble.

I've refrained from posting here on account of it being a sensitive subject and all. But I'm glad to see a little bit of argument for the other side.

"But they wouldn't have done so had there not been the initial attack."

Precisely. What seems to get lost in all of this was the initial attack.

And isn't it always the same...

1. Terrorists attack country, using neighboring country as base.

2. Terrorists then hide among the populace, knowing any counterattack is certain to cause civilian casualties and global condemnation.

3. Creative terrorists are even capable of killing/destroying targets within neighboring country... then pointing an accusatory finger at the counter attackers.

4. War drags on... global horrification turns into pressure on counter attackers to establish ceasefires... terrorists regroup and plan further attacks.

5. Rinse and repeat.

I, as everyone else with a pulse, feel horrible about the civilian casualties and crumbling infrastructure inside Gaza.

But knowing what should be blatantly clear by now... how the FUCK does a territory like Gaza allow a terrorist group like Hamas to launch an attack that everybody knows full well what the repercussions are going to be.

Gazans can't do anything about it, you say. Fine. How about the neighboring Arab countries, which stand to lose in a full-fledged conflict such as this, what with the hundreds of thousands of refugees that will look to flood their borders?



All I know is this: Israel and its Arab neighbors have been at it since many, many decades ago. World leaders, including U.S. Presidents, have come and gone, trying unsuccessfully to create some sort of lasting peace in the Middle East. Sure... Arabs and Israelis will never like or trust each other.

But damn it. Arab countries are well aware of the existence of these radical, terrorist groups whose only mission in life is the extermination of Israel. Well... since that ain't gonna happen... might as well live with that fact, and continue working together as best you can.

One thing's for certain. Every time some Hamas or Hezbollah group decides to launch an attack on Israel and then hide in a neighboring country... Israel is going to go looking for them... and some schools, hospitals, and innocent civilians are going to be blown up. Either by weary, trigger-happy Israelis... or by clever terrorists, looking to pin the blame on Israel.

A schoolyard fight on a deadly, global scale.

[Spicoli]

I don't know how many times we need to see mechanized armed to the teeth forces enter a territory and turn civilians into next gen recruits to know how this repeats. Again. And again.

But they wouldn't have done so had there not been the initial attack.
Do you remember all the pictures of armed Israeli citizens going about their lives? Apparently the leadership in Israel thought it proper to disarm those people and...
Personally, if i ran Israel, I would secure the prosperity and security of my people by exterminating every Palestinian that i could find. If I were a Palestinian I would probably have been throwing bombs and causing trouble.

Tactically as far as very just and expected retaliation and operations, it's destined to fail and backfire. We've seen and executed the same tactics into civilian populations over and over and over and seen thousands lost of our own blood and treasure only to kick the can down the road. Unless of course the unstated end game is to turn the entire territory into a literal parking lot and willingly write the civilian population off as collateral damage and /or willing combatants. Man women and child. Have to think that an Israeli government order of extermination of what ? 5,6 million people would be a very raw nerve given history and region. Given the proximity and constant clashes I'm surprised they do not have operators and intel prior to the savagery of Oct 7th that. Spies or saboteurs or whatever trying to get inside of Hamas and kneecap leadership from within. As usual the U.S is also answerable for much and tbh once again we keep our big fat toe stirring the Mideast. I mean shit doesn't Qatar fund Hamas ? yet we keep multiple bases there turning a blind eye. All to maintain our boot print and forward operations. Not to mention keeping the arms industry thriving for all. It really is a shit show and we revisit it every half dozen year.

[Kirkland Laing]

I don't know how many times we need to see mechanized armed to the teeth forces enter a territory and turn civilians into next gen recruits to know how this repeats. Again. And again.

For Israel this is a feature not a bug. As long as Hamas or somebody equally gruesome is running things in at least part of the Palestinian territories Israel can say quite correctly that they have no partner for peace and it allows them not to have to take part in any peace process. They can get on with building all over the West Bank undisturbed.

Another fantastic thing to come out of the current blowup for Israel is the raised salience of the issue in the west and in particular America. The combination of lots of Muslim immigrants swelling the numbers taking part in marches and lefties doing stupid stuff on campuses and elsewhere has created in polarised America a conservative backlash and given the right, who are also chock full of anti semites, another issue to own the libs on by supporting Israel unconditionally. What this means in practice is that should Trump win next year Israel will have carte blanche to do anything they want whether that's mass expulsion of Palestinians across the Jordan river or out through Gaza into Egypt or both. They can leave Gaza uninhabitable, cut off electricity or water or both, whatever they want.

[NoSavingByTheBell]

https://youtu.be/MM9NbVjENb4?si=_-bN3CAvsQS78NtO

[NoSavingByTheBell]

Fucking delusional beyond belief

Within 1 minute of today's closing arguments in the ICJ, Israel accused South Africa of being the legal arm of Hamas and then accused the ICJ itself of being "anti semitic". What a default bullshit position. I think the world can see they are their own worst enemy and fucking talk about a self fulfilling prophecy ❗ 75 years after "getting" (cough, cough) their own country, they have made it so that the whole world (minus the UK and US LMFAO) is lined up against them so they can cry "anti semitism" again. You cannot make this up.

[NoSavingByTheBell]

Rishi Sunak the lapdog of Biden, UK the lapdog of satanic America, and Germany the Vassal State of USA

https://youtu.be/DxF_t3rPWrQ?si=A-GPBocrDBjTDAYK