Quote Originally Posted by Lyle
James Toney will be fucking 48 in 10 years!!!

Wlad won't retire until he holds all the belts unless he's very badly injured some how

James Toney has skill but the older he has gotten the more lazy and boring he has become...he lays on the ropes he waits to counter and he doesn't have the pop needed to drop the big boys.....Toney has become the PBF of the heavyweights!!!

I rate James Toney as probably one of the best nonnatural heavyweights since Ezzard Charles but he had his 1 shot....making it to another title shot will be VERY difficult especially considering he can't fight for the WBA belt yet due to the suspension because of the drug test.

and if Wladimir and James Toney ever fought Wladimir would squish him like a fat little bug!
haha hell no lyle ... thats crazy talk ,
i mean who are the general public to listen to....
the one the only oh so pretty...pretty ace.. bodyhead..
or the i'll name you a crazed ass 80's song and make bodyhead chuckle cos im lyle and i smell rather strange 'lyle'
exactly..lol
but point bieng.. yes i know that james is 47 or 48 in ten years time.. and i dont beleieve he has become lazy atall, toney has never been lazy he used to weigh around 220 in his high school football days and hes been struggling to make weight his whole life...
i mean its crazy unfortunate that james has let him self go to an extent but i beleive that james is on the right track back to the top and he looked better last fight round and he'll keep looking better and better..
hes not as exciting as he once was but that is his weight... or not so much weight but just his size holding him back.. he still has the stamina... most of the handspeed if he were to get in better shape he could have the footspeed again!
i see the two best out there without a doubt as vlad and james...
i will not allow eithers chances dismissed as both are such great fighters...
i think the outcome is a sd or ud in a very complex fight... i wouldnt think it would be a bad decision..
i definately think it would be a hard decision to call ... probably some tough rounds depending on who your watching closer in the fight..
but as i say all this.. alot of it would depend on james's shape and how his camp has gone etc..
i mean theres a few good things going on for james...
i hear hes either looking into or actually working with a nutritionist,
hes got a film role or two on the way which he will need to be in shape for and would definately motivate him... if he keeps on picking these great fights then that'll motivate him to train harder ...
i truely beleive with his experiance skill and if he were in the shape he was in for booker and evander he would dominate the heavyweight division...
i know mackie shilstone usually works with althletes who are already in great shape and betters them to amazing levels.. but if james were to get in great shape and to sort out his nutrition... and then work with mackie... i certianly think some conditioning work and if he could gain some more power he could be amazing... lol
i might have gone too far in thinking optimisticly.. but there are some good points none the less
Peace