Quote Originally Posted by Big J View Post
Did Wilder over- achieve?
He started boxing at like 20
I'm sure we all agree he wasn't the best technically
With the help of some strategic match-making they got him to Stiverne
I remember many thinking he'd lose
Who expected him to come out & box, winning almost every round?
Then he got to his 1st real big challenge in Ortiz
However much he struggled in that fight he ended it with a shot gun blast in the 10th
He then fought Fury with lineal claims to a draw dropping him twice & with a different ref in a different place the fight could have been stopped
He put Breazeale to sleep & gave Ortiz a rematch
He then re-matched Fury & took a beating
He came back for more though & dropped Fury twice more in their 3rd fight
I personally think his record is thin but he achieved much more than I expected him to

Thank you for adding a different perspective on this.

In this mostly Wilder-hating forum, it's hard to find anyone that'll give him the credit he deserves. True, I did a 180 on him after his piss-poor performance against Parker. I also feel it's a totally different Wilder now than it was back in the "pre-3rd Fury fight days." Mainly because I think he's let the money and fame get to his head... plus the 3rd Fury fight took everything out of him.

But you're right on point regarding his previous fights and resume. He achieved much more than I expected him to, also.

Plus I'll say for the umpteenth time that a Wilder-Joshua fight (before they both got damaged) would've been a fight for the ages... and I would've given each a 50/50 chance.