Mayweather not as good as jones whos kidding who

[sexydarin]

Face it, Baldomir didn't look great because Floyd Mayweather is a virtuoso. Baldomir even made it a good entertaning fight, even though Floyd was just too talented. Floyd would have made it more one sided if he didn't hurt his hand. It was still a really entertaining fight. it dropped off a little when Mayweather injured his hand. Floyd Mayweather is a great hall of fame boxer. He may not have the offence of sugar ray robinson, but he is still a hall of fame boxer, in my opinion. He has great skill. If Baldomir had faced anyone except Floyd Mayweather, he probably would have won the fight.

[Hulk]

ask winky if shane could bench 300..that's nothing...shane actually was closer to 400lbs...and besides a prime light weight shane would KO duran...and whoever said shane was a point fighter is fucking stupid..shane was 35-0 with 32 ko's before he moved up out of his natural weight...shane mosely is among the greatest light weight fighters ever. Had he never moved up he'd be 70-0 or something like that..and i still to this day will stick by my pick as I have for the last year or so..and say that even right now at 34 shane would beat floyd at 147......

Remember that thing they had right after the super bowl, back in like 2001 or something, where Shane was in it with a bunch of other athletes, and it came time for him to lift weights, and he did not do so well. He sure as hell didn't bench no 300 lbs. Not to be a jerk, but do YOU lift weights? Probably not, because if you did, you would underdtand that 150 lb men, do not normally bench anywhere near 300 lbs, not less they are life long body builders, and olympic champions or some shat.

well, didn't think you were being a jerk..and just cause a man is rumoured to lift 400 pounds doesn't mean that he works out with it...he probably pressed it once or twice..i weigh 142 and can press 265 once, and my chest isn't nearly as thick as shane's...i do however do alot of push-ups....

I think what has happened here is that a lot of people have taken the "shane can bench 400" to mean that he's doing the shit in sets when in fact any guy that i've known or well take me for example if you ask me what do i bench i'll say "265" because i can in fact lift it once, but i actually only do 150 in sets. you see?...

Bro, you must be a "monster for your weight" cus I weight 145lbs. And the most I have benched, after liften heavy for 2 months and buildin up to it a little was 155. Which is 10 lbs over my own weight, and pretty good, but certainly not great. For reference my buddy who weighed bout 212 at the time beched 165. However he did manage to squat nearly 400lbs. Which is impressive. Anyway this is all stupid, cus this is a boxing forum, not weight liftin forum, and liftin heavy dont mean you hit hard or that you are better than another boxer who lifts less. Benchin a lot does not make Shane great. His power boxing style and beatin Oscar did.

[Hairdoo]

To say Mosley and Delahoya would beat Duran no way. To beat Duran you need movement and nothing else. Punches just to keep him back, but nothing to try and knock him out. I think Duran takes Mosley by knockout. I think he knocks out Oscar also. Whitaker I think would have outpointed Duran just on style. He had the style to beat Duran.. Mayweather would not beat Duran. If he struggled with Castillo, Duran would demolish him.

I think you underestimate fighters today... Mosley and Dela hoya where both as strong as Duran, and both were faster, and more skilled as fighters... Mosley hasn't been seriously hurt minus the time from the head but, and Oscar wasn't even knocked out by Bernard Hopkins who hits way harder than Duran would have just be sheer size and strength. Also do you remember Esteban De Jesus one of the few ligitimate fighters Duran faced at lightweight? He was floored twice by this guy, and Jesus couldn't hit as hard as Mosley or Oscar at lightweight... Castillo had alot better head movement faster feet, and better timing than Duran when he fought Mayweather also he came in without throwing punches which threw Mayweather off, but Duran would come in with a punch and Mayweather would easily counter him all night.

u mention about duran getting floored twice by de jesus what about mosley getting floored twice by vernon forrest and got whooped twice by him duran was master tactician watch his fight with barkley and barkley hit harder than hopkins duran is tough sob he would keep coming for mayweather duran is legend great fighter and i reckon he would beat mayweather and other guys u mentioned hell even oscar was floored by whitaker and whitaker wasnt real hard puncher by any means and it wasnt prime whitaker

Duran would beat all three of them, you are damn right. Oscar or Mosley being the toughest, probably Mosley but who knows and Floyd being the easiest. Duran was probably the greatest lightweight of all time, and a great boxer and brawler. He is the only man to ever whip a prime SRL for crying out loud! I love Castillo, but Duran was about twice the fighter he is. Roberto Duran would laugh at Mayweather, walk through his punches, slipping them as well, and destroy Floyd.

"no mas!"

but yeh I agree Duran would walk straight through Floyd.

[Lords Gym]

can you imagine if the two fought each other? LOL.. nobody would throw a punch. .. just food for thought !

[JonesJrMayweather]

To say Mosley and Delahoya would beat Duran no way. To beat Duran you need movement and nothing else. Punches just to keep him back, but nothing to try and knock him out. I think Duran takes Mosley by knockout. I think he knocks out Oscar also. Whitaker I think would have outpointed Duran just on style. He had the style to beat Duran.. Mayweather would not beat Duran. If he struggled with Castillo, Duran would demolish him.

I think you underestimate fighters today... Mosley and Dela hoya where both as strong as Duran, and both were faster, and more skilled as fighters... Mosley hasn't been seriously hurt minus the time from the head but, and Oscar wasn't even knocked out by Bernard Hopkins who hits way harder than Duran would have just be sheer size and strength. Also do you remember Esteban De Jesus one of the few ligitimate fighters Duran faced at lightweight? He was floored twice by this guy, and Jesus couldn't hit as hard as Mosley or Oscar at lightweight... Castillo had alot better head movement faster feet, and better timing than Duran when he fought Mayweather also he came in without throwing punches which threw Mayweather off, but Duran would come in with a punch and Mayweather would easily counter him all night.

u mention about duran getting floored twice by de jesus what about mosley getting floored twice by vernon forrest and got whooped twice by him duran was master tactician watch his fight with barkley and barkley hit harder than hopkins duran is tough sob he would keep coming for mayweather duran is legend great fighter and i reckon he would beat mayweather and other guys u mentioned hell even oscar was floored by whitaker and whitaker wasnt real hard puncher by any means and it wasnt prime whitaker

Duran would beat all three of them, you are damn right. Oscar or Mosley being the toughest, probably Mosley but who knows and Floyd being the easiest. Duran was probably the greatest lightweight of all time, and a great boxer and brawler. He is the only man to ever whip a prime SRL for crying out loud! I love Castillo, but Duran was about twice the fighter he is. Roberto Duran would laugh at Mayweather, walk through his punches, slipping them as well, and destroy Floyd.

"no mas!"

but yeh I agree Duran would walk straight through Floyd.

He would walk straight into 300 punches landed enroute to being stopped by floyd.

[El Gamo]

To say Mosley and Delahoya would beat Duran no way. To beat Duran you need movement and nothing else. Punches just to keep him back, but nothing to try and knock him out. I think Duran takes Mosley by knockout. I think he knocks out Oscar also. Whitaker I think would have outpointed Duran just on style. He had the style to beat Duran.. Mayweather would not beat Duran. If he struggled with Castillo, Duran would demolish him.

I think you underestimate fighters today... Mosley and Dela hoya where both as strong as Duran, and both were faster, and more skilled as fighters... Mosley hasn't been seriously hurt minus the time from the head but, and Oscar wasn't even knocked out by Bernard Hopkins who hits way harder than Duran would have just be sheer size and strength. Also do you remember Esteban De Jesus one of the few ligitimate fighters Duran faced at lightweight? He was floored twice by this guy, and Jesus couldn't hit as hard as Mosley or Oscar at lightweight... Castillo had alot better head movement faster feet, and better timing than Duran when he fought Mayweather also he came in without throwing punches which threw Mayweather off, but Duran would come in with a punch and Mayweather would easily counter him all night.

u mention about duran getting floored twice by de jesus what about mosley getting floored twice by vernon forrest and got whooped twice by him duran was master tactician watch his fight with barkley and barkley hit harder than hopkins duran is tough sob he would keep coming for mayweather duran is legend great fighter and i reckon he would beat mayweather and other guys u mentioned hell even oscar was floored by whitaker and whitaker wasnt real hard puncher by any means and it wasnt prime whitaker

Duran would beat all three of them, you are damn right. Oscar or Mosley being the toughest, probably Mosley but who knows and Floyd being the easiest. Duran was probably the greatest lightweight of all time, and a great boxer and brawler. He is the only man to ever whip a prime SRL for crying out loud! I love Castillo, but Duran was about twice the fighter he is. Roberto Duran would laugh at Mayweather, walk through his punches, slipping them as well, and destroy Floyd.

"no mas!"

but yeh I agree Duran would walk straight through Floyd.

He would walk straight into 300 punches landed enroute to being stopped by floyd.

You're joking right?! If PBF tried to roll with Duran's punches,Duran would dislocate his shoulder,PBF would break his hands on Duran's head and Duran would hunt him down!! You make as if Roberto was some dumb fighter,he was very skilled and smart and if PBF struggled with JLC......Duran is 20 times the fighter JLC is(no offence to JLC fans of which I am one)

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

To say Mosley and Delahoya would beat Duran no way. To beat Duran you need movement and nothing else. Punches just to keep him back, but nothing to try and knock him out. I think Duran takes Mosley by knockout. I think he knocks out Oscar also. Whitaker I think would have outpointed Duran just on style. He had the style to beat Duran.. Mayweather would not beat Duran. If he struggled with Castillo, Duran would demolish him.

I think you underestimate fighters today... Mosley and Dela hoya where both as strong as Duran, and both were faster, and more skilled as fighters... Mosley hasn't been seriously hurt minus the time from the head but, and Oscar wasn't even knocked out by Bernard Hopkins who hits way harder than Duran would have just be sheer size and strength. Also do you remember Esteban De Jesus one of the few ligitimate fighters Duran faced at lightweight? He was floored twice by this guy, and Jesus couldn't hit as hard as Mosley or Oscar at lightweight... Castillo had alot better head movement faster feet, and better timing than Duran when he fought Mayweather also he came in without throwing punches which threw Mayweather off, but Duran would come in with a punch and Mayweather would easily counter him all night.

u mention about duran getting floored twice by de jesus what about mosley getting floored twice by vernon forrest and got whooped twice by him duran was master tactician watch his fight with barkley and barkley hit harder than hopkins duran is tough sob he would keep coming for mayweather duran is legend great fighter and i reckon he would beat mayweather and other guys u mentioned hell even oscar was floored by whitaker and whitaker wasnt real hard puncher by any means and it wasnt prime whitaker

Duran would beat all three of them, you are damn right. Oscar or Mosley being the toughest, probably Mosley but who knows and Floyd being the easiest. Duran was probably the greatest lightweight of all time, and a great boxer and brawler. He is the only man to ever whip a prime SRL for crying out loud! I love Castillo, but Duran was about twice the fighter he is. Roberto Duran would laugh at Mayweather, walk through his punches, slipping them as well, and destroy Floyd.

"no mas!"

but yeh I agree Duran would walk straight through Floyd.

He would walk straight into 300 punches landed enroute to being stopped by floyd.

Nice try dude

[Hulk]

To say Mosley and Delahoya would beat Duran no way. To beat Duran you need movement and nothing else. Punches just to keep him back, but nothing to try and knock him out. I think Duran takes Mosley by knockout. I think he knocks out Oscar also. Whitaker I think would have outpointed Duran just on style. He had the style to beat Duran.. Mayweather would not beat Duran. If he struggled with Castillo, Duran would demolish him.

I think you underestimate fighters today... Mosley and Dela hoya where both as strong as Duran, and both were faster, and more skilled as fighters... Mosley hasn't been seriously hurt minus the time from the head but, and Oscar wasn't even knocked out by Bernard Hopkins who hits way harder than Duran would have just be sheer size and strength. Also do you remember Esteban De Jesus one of the few ligitimate fighters Duran faced at lightweight? He was floored twice by this guy, and Jesus couldn't hit as hard as Mosley or Oscar at lightweight... Castillo had alot better head movement faster feet, and better timing than Duran when he fought Mayweather also he came in without throwing punches which threw Mayweather off, but Duran would come in with a punch and Mayweather would easily counter him all night.

u mention about duran getting floored twice by de jesus what about mosley getting floored twice by vernon forrest and got whooped twice by him duran was master tactician watch his fight with barkley and barkley hit harder than hopkins duran is tough sob he would keep coming for mayweather duran is legend great fighter and i reckon he would beat mayweather and other guys u mentioned hell even oscar was floored by whitaker and whitaker wasnt real hard puncher by any means and it wasnt prime whitaker

Duran would beat all three of them, you are damn right. Oscar or Mosley being the toughest, probably Mosley but who knows and Floyd being the easiest. Duran was probably the greatest lightweight of all time, and a great boxer and brawler. He is the only man to ever whip a prime SRL for crying out loud! I love Castillo, but Duran was about twice the fighter he is. Roberto Duran would laugh at Mayweather, walk through his punches, slipping them as well, and destroy Floyd.

"no mas!"

but yeh I agree Duran would walk straight through Floyd.

He would walk straight into 300 punches landed enroute to being stopped by floyd.

You're joking right?! If PBF tried to roll with Duran's punches,Duran would dislocate his shoulder,PBF would break his hands on Duran's head and Duran would hunt him down!! You make as if Roberto was some dumb fighter,he was very skilled and smart and if PBF struggled with JLC......Duran is 20 times the fighter JLC is(no offence to JLC fans of which I am one)

No doubt El Gamo, no doubt. Duran was a great boxer and brawler. He dismantled Davey Moore and countless other young fighters. He was an animal who methodically broke down his opponents.

[LegendBoxing65]

Duran did dismantle Davey Moore and Barkley but he could not dismantle the great ones like Hearns and Hagler. So those accomplishments are not as great as they seem I think. Duran was great but the great fighters beat him usually, and people will say not at lightweight. Well who did he really fight great at lightweight? Buchanan does not match up to Leonard and Hearns. As for Jones. I think Jones was a great fighter but he did not fight enough great fighters, Jones was as fast as Mayweather and better defensively I think but he never put a claim to greatness. His big wins are Hill,McCallum,Hopkins and Toney. Good wins, But he could have tried to fight Hearns and even though Hearns would have probably lost in 1997 because he was at the end of his career, the name on his record would have helped Jones. I like Roy and think the Roy who beat Toney could have competed against any great fighter, but his confidence I thought was sometimes lower than it should have been.

[SweetPea]

Duran-Mayweather would be a great fight and a great matchup of styles. At this point, I'd still have to favor Duran. Like people have said, he wasn't just a great puncher, he was a classic boxer as well. He knew how to box, cut the ring off, etc.
In my opinion, Floyd hasn't come close to proving yet that he's at Duran's level. He could do it, but he hasn't proven it yet.
In my opinion, the only modern fighters between 135-147 pounds who have proven that they are at or above Duran's level are Leonard and Whitaker.

[Olympian904]

How is Floyds boxing even being questioned??You ask any real fighter and any real trainer who the best is and 95% of them will tell you Mayweather.Duran was strong but you are completely wrong if you think that he would just drop hard shots and outwork Floyd.Someone said that Floyd would break his shoulder trying to block Durans shots??WTF are you smoking?Its so funny that after Floyd beats a guy...the guy becomes either a "bum" or "past his prime".Everyone seems to have this notion that Duran and all these other great welters could knock floyd out...you cant be serious(When has floyd ever been stunned by a punch)IMO you cant compare fighters of this era to those of the past b/c fighters today are stronger,are more educated about nutrition,techniques,etc...

[JT Rock]

As for the title of the subject "Mayweather not as good as jones whos kidding who"

Floyd is better or on par with Jones as far as every single physical attribute EXCEPT POWER

In terms of Boxing ability and technical mastery whether its offense or defense, Floyd is absolute textbook to a tee, Floyd is as fundamentally sound as any fighter that has ever stepped foot in a boxing ring and he certainly blows Roy Jones jr out of the water just on pure Technical ability..

Floyd relies on technique 1st and athleticism 2nd.. Jones was Flashy and Exciting because he was always on a whole other level than his opposition in terms as God given athleticism, unfortunately he relied on that too much... Floyd is the exact opposite and his style will keep him in the game a whole lot longer if he decides to go a few more years and he wont suffer the same fate as Roy did...

Floyd is bettering his standing by fighting DLH and hopefully after that he fights and beats Hatton, Cotto, Mosely... and some young up and comers. Then IMO Floyd will be one of the top 5 of all time...

[bcollins]

I suppose what im getting at is i really dont dig fighters who move too far from their optimal weight if it means it detracts from thier peformance.

Couldn't agree more!

[bcollins]

IMO you cant compare fighters of this era to those of the past b/c fighters today are stronger,are more educated about nutrition,techniques,etc...

...and also softer, less determined, and generally not as strong-willed. Those fighters of yesteryear had to grind it out, whereas today's fighters live in a world that is more accomodating.

[Olympian904]

IMO you cant compare fighters of this era to those of the past b/c fighters today are stronger,are more educated about nutrition,techniques,etc...

...and also softer, less determined, and generally not as strong-willed. Those fighters of yesteryear had to grind it out, whereas today's fighters live in a world that is more accomodating.

How is Pac,Winky,Floyd,Barrerra,Baldo,etc soft?
How are they less determined?
Not as strong willed?Floyd Mayweather practically lives in a gym...if that is a weak fighter...I gurantee Duran never spent 6hrs in a gym and ran up to 8miles a day