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    Default Re: Bivol v Beterbiev next!

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    It's already been over 6 years since Beterbiev & Bivol have been champions in the same division together at the same time
    Why not make it 7 years
    Beterbiev's inactivity & injuries are hurting his legacy
    Beterbiev has a better legacy than Bivol at the weight. I would rather see a fully fit Artur fight than him taking on anyone half fit. That would be cheating the fans of a historic event in boxing.
    Debatable I would say. Not much in it really.
    only the oleksandr gvozdyk fight really
    That was an incredible win by Beterbiev, tops the lot.
    Tops beating Canelo?
    Yes. Gvozdyk retired Stevenson and was seen as the main man at the weight.
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    Default Re: Bivol v Beterbiev next!

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    It's already been over 6 years since Beterbiev & Bivol have been champions in the same division together at the same time
    Why not make it 7 years
    Beterbiev's inactivity & injuries are hurting his legacy
    Beterbiev has a better legacy than Bivol at the weight. I would rather see a fully fit Artur fight than him taking on anyone half fit. That would be cheating the fans of a historic event in boxing.
    Debatable I would say. Not much in it really.
    only the oleksandr gvozdyk fight really
    That was an incredible win by Beterbiev, tops the lot.
    Tops beating Canelo?
    Yes. Gvozdyk retired Stevenson and was seen as the main man at the weight.
    Yes. Stevenson was the man, but when all of the other guys came on the scene, we knew it was only a matter of time before Stevenson was put out to pasture. Gvozdyk, Bivol and Beterbiev were the big three and now there are only the big two.
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    Default Re: Bivol v Beterbiev next!

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    It's already been over 6 years since Beterbiev & Bivol have been champions in the same division together at the same time
    Why not make it 7 years
    Beterbiev's inactivity & injuries are hurting his legacy
    Beterbiev has a better legacy than Bivol at the weight. I would rather see a fully fit Artur fight than him taking on anyone half fit. That would be cheating the fans of a historic event in boxing.
    Debatable I would say. Not much in it really.
    only the oleksandr gvozdyk fight really
    That was an incredible win by Beterbiev, tops the lot.
    Tops beating Canelo?
    Yes. Gvozdyk retired Stevenson and was seen as the main man at the weight.
    Yeah. And Canelo swept Kovalev out of the division. And Kovalev wasn’t the “main man” at LHW ?
    I know Kovalev was a bit long in the tooth , but still the champ.
    All I’m saying is there isn’t a lot of difference in their “legacy”
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    Default Re: Bivol v Beterbiev next!

    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
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    It's already been over 6 years since Beterbiev & Bivol have been champions in the same division together at the same time
    Why not make it 7 years
    Beterbiev's inactivity & injuries are hurting his legacy
    Beterbiev has a better legacy than Bivol at the weight. I would rather see a fully fit Artur fight than him taking on anyone half fit. That would be cheating the fans of a historic event in boxing.
    Debatable I would say. Not much in it really.
    only the oleksandr gvozdyk fight really
    That was an incredible win by Beterbiev, tops the lot.
    Tops beating Canelo?
    Yes. Gvozdyk retired Stevenson and was seen as the main man at the weight.
    Yeah. And Canelo swept Kovalev out of the division. And Kovalev wasn’t the “main man” at LHW ?
    I know Kovalev was a bit long in the tooth , but still the champ.
    All I’m saying is there isn’t a lot of difference in their “legacy”
    Kov was a beast when he won the world title but he lost to Ward and lost/avenged Alvarez before he faced Canelo so was not the force he once was a very long time ago.
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    Default Re: Bivol v Beterbiev next!

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    It's already been over 6 years since Beterbiev & Bivol have been champions in the same division together at the same time
    Why not make it 7 years
    Beterbiev's inactivity & injuries are hurting his legacy
    Beterbiev has a better legacy than Bivol at the weight. I would rather see a fully fit Artur fight than him taking on anyone half fit. That would be cheating the fans of a historic event in boxing.
    I also think Beterbiev has a better legacy than Bivol at 175 right now
    I also want to see a fully fit Beterbiev fight than anyone half fit
    I'm not saying Beterbiev should have fought injured
    I'm saying that these injuries are hurting his personal legacy
    He's nearly 40
    He's only fought once a year at this point since 2022
    If he loses to Bivol he only has the Gvozdyk win as an elite victory
    If he beats Bivol it's another elite win
    But are 2 elite wins enough to bring him into the ATG talk?
    Without the injuries he might have had another half dozen fights
    His legacy could have been so much better

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    Default Re: Bivol v Beterbiev next!

    Quote Originally Posted by Big J View Post
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    It's already been over 6 years since Beterbiev & Bivol have been champions in the same division together at the same time
    Why not make it 7 years
    Beterbiev's inactivity & injuries are hurting his legacy
    Beterbiev has a better legacy than Bivol at the weight. I would rather see a fully fit Artur fight than him taking on anyone half fit. That would be cheating the fans of a historic event in boxing.
    I also think Beterbiev has a better legacy than Bivol at 175 right now
    I also want to see a fully fit Beterbiev fight than anyone half fit
    I'm not saying Beterbiev should have fought injured
    I'm saying that these injuries are hurting his personal legacy
    He's nearly 40
    He's only fought once a year at this point since 2022
    If he loses to Bivol he only has the Gvozdyk win as an elite victory
    If he beats Bivol it's another elite win
    But are 2 elite wins enough to bring him into the ATG talk?
    Without the injuries he might have had another half dozen fights
    His legacy could have been so much better
    I was not being argumentative and my tone should not have been read that way.
    I should add these more often.
    Reminds me of this funny video below.

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    Default Re: Bivol v Beterbiev next!

    Quote Originally Posted by Big J View Post
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    It's already been over 6 years since Beterbiev & Bivol have been champions in the same division together at the same time
    Why not make it 7 years
    Beterbiev's inactivity & injuries are hurting his legacy
    Beterbiev has a better legacy than Bivol at the weight. I would rather see a fully fit Artur fight than him taking on anyone half fit. That would be cheating the fans of a historic event in boxing.
    I also think Beterbiev has a better legacy than Bivol at 175 right now
    I also want to see a fully fit Beterbiev fight than anyone half fit
    I'm not saying Beterbiev should have fought injured
    I'm saying that these injuries are hurting his personal legacy
    He's nearly 40
    He's only fought once a year at this point since 2022
    If he loses to Bivol he only has the Gvozdyk win as an elite victory
    If he beats Bivol it's another elite win
    But are 2 elite wins enough to bring him into the ATG talk?
    Without the injuries he might have had another half dozen fights
    His legacy could have been so much better
    I was not being argumentative and my tone should not have been read that way.
    I should add these more often.
    Reminds me of this funny video below.

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    Default Re: Bivol v Beterbiev next!

    They sort of snuck this one in but...$70 PPV for this Stateside on Dazn . And that's only if you're already paying the annual rip off rate as a sub. What a racket. The last Saudi/Dazn 5 vs 5 was $30-40 if I recall. I guess the honeymoon is over and it sucks for the fans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    They sort of snuck this one in but...$70 PPV for this Stateside on Dazn . And that's only if you're already paying the annual rip off rate as a sub. What a racket. The last Saudi/Dazn 5 vs 5 was $30-40 if I recall. I guess the honeymoon is over and it sucks for the fans.
    Eastern Europeans will pay for that. Maybe not Western Europeans and Americans... or anyone else, for that matter. hehehhe
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