Bivol v Beterbiev next!

[Master]

It's already been over 6 years since Beterbiev & Bivol have been champions in the same division together at the same time
Why not make it 7 years
Beterbiev's inactivity & injuries are hurting his legacy

Beterbiev has a better legacy than Bivol at the weight. I would rather see a fully fit Artur fight than him taking on anyone half fit. That would be cheating the fans of a historic event in boxing.

Debatable I would say. Not much in it really.

only the oleksandr gvozdyk fight really

That was an incredible win by Beterbiev, tops the lot.

Tops beating Canelo?

Yes. Gvozdyk retired Stevenson and was seen as the main man at the weight.

[ykdadamaja]

It's already been over 6 years since Beterbiev & Bivol have been champions in the same division together at the same time
Why not make it 7 years
Beterbiev's inactivity & injuries are hurting his legacy

Beterbiev has a better legacy than Bivol at the weight. I would rather see a fully fit Artur fight than him taking on anyone half fit. That would be cheating the fans of a historic event in boxing.

Debatable I would say. Not much in it really.

only the oleksandr gvozdyk fight really

That was an incredible win by Beterbiev, tops the lot.

Tops beating Canelo?

Yes. Gvozdyk retired Stevenson and was seen as the main man at the weight.

Yes. Stevenson was the man, but when all of the other guys came on the scene, we knew it was only a matter of time before Stevenson was put out to pasture. Gvozdyk, Bivol and Beterbiev were the big three and now there are only the big two.

[Primo Carnera]

It's already been over 6 years since Beterbiev & Bivol have been champions in the same division together at the same time
Why not make it 7 years
Beterbiev's inactivity & injuries are hurting his legacy

Beterbiev has a better legacy than Bivol at the weight. I would rather see a fully fit Artur fight than him taking on anyone half fit. That would be cheating the fans of a historic event in boxing.

Debatable I would say. Not much in it really.

only the oleksandr gvozdyk fight really

That was an incredible win by Beterbiev, tops the lot.

Tops beating Canelo?

Yes. Gvozdyk retired Stevenson and was seen as the main man at the weight.

Yeah. And Canelo swept Kovalev out of the division. And Kovalev wasn’t the “main man” at LHW ?
I know Kovalev was a bit long in the tooth , but still the champ.
All I’m saying is there isn’t a lot of difference in their “legacy”

[Master]

It's already been over 6 years since Beterbiev & Bivol have been champions in the same division together at the same time
Why not make it 7 years
Beterbiev's inactivity & injuries are hurting his legacy

Beterbiev has a better legacy than Bivol at the weight. I would rather see a fully fit Artur fight than him taking on anyone half fit. That would be cheating the fans of a historic event in boxing.

Debatable I would say. Not much in it really.

only the oleksandr gvozdyk fight really

That was an incredible win by Beterbiev, tops the lot.

Tops beating Canelo?

Yes. Gvozdyk retired Stevenson and was seen as the main man at the weight.

Yeah. And Canelo swept Kovalev out of the division. And Kovalev wasn’t the “main man” at LHW ?
I know Kovalev was a bit long in the tooth , but still the champ.
All I’m saying is there isn’t a lot of difference in their “legacy”

Kov was a beast when he won the world title but he lost to Ward and lost/avenged Alvarez before he faced Canelo so was not the force he once was a very long time ago.

[Big J]

It's already been over 6 years since Beterbiev & Bivol have been champions in the same division together at the same time
Why not make it 7 years
Beterbiev's inactivity & injuries are hurting his legacy

Beterbiev has a better legacy than Bivol at the weight. I would rather see a fully fit Artur fight than him taking on anyone half fit. That would be cheating the fans of a historic event in boxing.

I also think Beterbiev has a better legacy than Bivol at 175 right now
I also want to see a fully fit Beterbiev fight than anyone half fit
I'm not saying Beterbiev should have fought injured
I'm saying that these injuries are hurting his personal legacy
He's nearly 40
He's only fought once a year at this point since 2022
If he loses to Bivol he only has the Gvozdyk win as an elite victory
If he beats Bivol it's another elite win
But are 2 elite wins enough to bring him into the ATG talk?
Without the injuries he might have had another half dozen fights
His legacy could have been so much better

[Master]

It's already been over 6 years since Beterbiev & Bivol have been champions in the same division together at the same time
Why not make it 7 years
Beterbiev's inactivity & injuries are hurting his legacy

Beterbiev has a better legacy than Bivol at the weight. I would rather see a fully fit Artur fight than him taking on anyone half fit. That would be cheating the fans of a historic event in boxing.

I also think Beterbiev has a better legacy than Bivol at 175 right now
I also want to see a fully fit Beterbiev fight than anyone half fit
I'm not saying Beterbiev should have fought injured
I'm saying that these injuries are hurting his personal legacy
He's nearly 40
He's only fought once a year at this point since 2022
If he loses to Bivol he only has the Gvozdyk win as an elite victory
If he beats Bivol it's another elite win
But are 2 elite wins enough to bring him into the ATG talk?
Without the injuries he might have had another half dozen fights
His legacy could have been so much better

I was not being argumentative and my tone should not have been read that way.
I should add these more often.
Reminds me of this funny video below.

[Master]

It's already been over 6 years since Beterbiev & Bivol have been champions in the same division together at the same time
Why not make it 7 years
Beterbiev's inactivity & injuries are hurting his legacy

Beterbiev has a better legacy than Bivol at the weight. I would rather see a fully fit Artur fight than him taking on anyone half fit. That would be cheating the fans of a historic event in boxing.

I also think Beterbiev has a better legacy than Bivol at 175 right now
I also want to see a fully fit Beterbiev fight than anyone half fit
I'm not saying Beterbiev should have fought injured
I'm saying that these injuries are hurting his personal legacy
He's nearly 40
He's only fought once a year at this point since 2022
If he loses to Bivol he only has the Gvozdyk win as an elite victory
If he beats Bivol it's another elite win
But are 2 elite wins enough to bring him into the ATG talk?
Without the injuries he might have had another half dozen fights
His legacy could have been so much better

I was not being argumentative and my tone should not have been read that way.
I should add these more often.
Reminds me of this funny video below.

[Spicoli]

They sort of snuck this one in but...$70 PPV for this Stateside on Dazn . And that's only if you're already paying the annual rip off rate as a sub. What a racket. The last Saudi/Dazn 5 vs 5 was $30-40 if I recall. I guess the honeymoon is over and it sucks for the fans.

[ykdadamaja]

They sort of snuck this one in but...$70 PPV for this Stateside on Dazn . And that's only if you're already paying the annual rip off rate as a sub. What a racket. The last Saudi/Dazn 5 vs 5 was $30-40 if I recall. I guess the honeymoon is over and it sucks for the fans.

Eastern Europeans will pay for that. Maybe not Western Europeans and Americans... or anyone else, for that matter. hehehhe

[Spicoli]

They sort of snuck this one in but...$70 PPV for this Stateside on Dazn . And that's only if you're already paying the annual rip off rate as a sub. What a racket. The last Saudi/Dazn 5 vs 5 was $30-40 if I recall. I guess the honeymoon is over and it sucks for the fans.

Eastern Europeans will pay for that. Maybe not Western Europeans and Americans... or anyone else, for that matter. hehehhe

Beginning to make clear sense why platforms and promotions are including sports betting all over the screens, they want to ensure fans can and will be able to purchase the weekly PPVs . No one wants to admit it and it is clearly dated...no existing major networks to air what were regular and expected "big fights" some 7,8,9 years ago is how this flourishes. The system is broken. The more people stream without buying, the more ppv we see. Vice versa and a dog chasing its tail. Maybe if we got back to $30-40 ppv it can change. Fans have almost conditioned themselves to accept stacked rates and boxing being stuffed back behind constant paywalls. It's not sustainable.

[TIC]