Who is next for Canelo?

[TIC]

so canelo did already go to light heavy while artur & dmitry were breathing yeh? so who is waiting at super middle again? canelo could probably reign at super middle for another five years

Yeh.

Canelo went up there...

And yeh.

Canelo can stay safely at 168, now that Benavidez got fed up waiting for him and moved on.

Let's remember... Benavidez is Mexican, and Ginger had said in the past he wouldn't fight another Mexican.

yes canelo did go up to light heavy while artur & dmitry were still breathing, so your statement was wrong. david b could have tried to force the wbc to make him mandatory. he chose to move up. david b is not mexican. canelo just fought a mexican in jaime munguia. if you're taking what a boxer says as gospel then you're asking to be fooled

[TitoFan]

so canelo did already go to light heavy while artur & dmitry were breathing yeh? so who is waiting at super middle again? canelo could probably reign at super middle for another five years

Yeh.

Canelo went up there...

And yeh.

Canelo can stay safely at 168, now that Benavidez got fed up waiting for him and moved on.

Let's remember... Benavidez is Mexican, and Ginger had said in the past he wouldn't fight another Mexican.

yes canelo did go up to light heavy while artur & dmitry were still breathing, so your statement was wrong. david b could have tried to force the wbc to make him mandatory. he chose to move up. david b is not mexican. canelo just fought a mexican in jaime munguia. if you're taking what a boxer says as gospel then you're asking to be fooled

On the first statement:

hyper·bole
[hʌɪˈpəːbəli]
noun
exaggerated statements or claims not meant to be taken literally

Us adults use hyperbole every so often to make our points.



Oh... so David B didn't do enough to force a fight against Canelo?

Damn bro... you should have your own stint as a stand-up comic on HBO. You are just plain hilarious.



You're a Canelo groupie... I'm a Canelo hater. You know that... I know that. So basically these exchanges are pointless.

(They're a bit of fun, though).

[TIC]

if your statements are hyper·bole & not meant to be taken literally then how can they be used to make a point? david b did enough in my opinion to earn a fight with canelo, you could also argue from david m or william sculls teams that they also did everything to earn their shots as well. both were mandatories before david b. the blame needs to be on the wbc for not making david b mandatory but he would still be behind david m & william scull in the mandatory process. canelo could have chose to fight david b, i agree with you there. maybe he just didn't want to give david b the payday

[TitoFan]

if your statements are hyper·bole & not meant to be taken literally then how can they be used to make a point? david b did enough in my opinion to earn a fight with canelo, you could also argue from david m or william sculls teams that they also did everything to earn their shots as well. both were mandatories before david b. the blame needs to be on the wbc for not making david b mandatory but he would still be behind david m & william scull in the mandatory process. canelo could have chose to fight david b, i agree with you there. maybe he just didn't want to give david b the payday

Yep, believe me... I blame the WBC a lot. I believe the WBC has coddled and protected Canelo from early in his career. So I can't pin all the blame on him. He's only too happy to be the recipient, though.

Canelo would've earned some (grudging) respect from me had he just woken up one day and said: "F*ck it. I'm gonna fight this Benavidez character and get all these haters, especially TitoFan, off my back."

[TIC]

you don't even give canelo respect for fighting floyd or the second best light heavy at the time dmitry. you like to say he was embarrassed or got his ass kicked. no credit from you for taking on those challenges. you even find it hard to give canelo credit for running through three undefeated champions in eleven months to unify super middle. i doubt you'll give canelo respect if the david b fight happens, especially if canelo wins, we'll hear that david b was weight drained or any assortment of excuses

[TitoFan]

you don't even give canelo respect for fighting floyd or the second best light heavy at the time dmitry. you like to say he was embarrassed or got his ass kicked. no credit from you for taking on those challenges. you even find it hard to give canelo credit for running through three undefeated champions in eleven months to unify super middle. i doubt you'll give canelo respect if the david b fight happens, especially if canelo wins, we'll hear that david b was weight drained or any assortment of excuses

Why should I give Canelo respect for being gifted a fight against Floyd, probably ahead of more deserving fighters? (The teacher's pet always gets the preferential treatment). He didn't deserve to be there, and Floyd made sure to point that out in the ring.

Dmitry? Fine. That was just a gross miscalculation on Team Canelo's part. Believe me. Had they thought Bivol was going to be such a live dog, they would've found a way to drain him or come up with some other bullshit diva clause.

Canelo finally found his sweet spot at super middle. Of course, it helps that guys like Callum Smith laid down for him.

How am I supposed to respect a bitch that asked a cruiserweight to drain himself down 20 pounds below the limit (with rehydration clauses) in order to fight for some bullshit, meaningless cruiserweight trinket?

I've never gotten an answer from you on that, and I don't expect one now.



Canelo has NEVER (except for his miscalculations against Floyd and Bivol) gone into a fight where the deck isn't stacked FIRMLY in his favor.

I can't wait till the redheaded bitch retires.

[NoSavingByTheBell]

Well I don't like canelo for several reasons including the way he has been coddled and overhyped, I thought he fought very well against Floyd even though he was definitely outmatched. He definitely was humiliated against bivol. Even more so. But he has shown some improvement over the years which is a sign of a good fighter as opposed to a guy like Wilder who fought last week the same way he fought 10 years ago. So although I don't care for his persona or the way he has been promoted or marketed. I think he's a damn good fighter. But I don't see him beating Marvin hagler Carmine basilio sugar Ray Robinson Bernard Hopkins Roberto Duran or even a prime triple G. But still I consider him a damn good fighter

[TIC]

you don't even give canelo respect for fighting floyd or the second best light heavy at the time dmitry. you like to say he was embarrassed or got his ass kicked. no credit from you for taking on those challenges. you even find it hard to give canelo credit for running through three undefeated champions in eleven months to unify super middle. i doubt you'll give canelo respect if the david b fight happens, especially if canelo wins, we'll hear that david b was weight drained or any assortment of excuses

Why should I give Canelo respect for being gifted a fight against Floyd, probably ahead of more deserving fighters? (The teacher's pet always gets the preferential treatment). He didn't deserve to be there, and Floyd made sure to point that out in the ring.

Dmitry? Fine. That was just a gross miscalculation on Team Canelo's part. Believe me. Had they thought Bivol was going to be such a live dog, they would've found a way to drain him or come up with some other bullshit diva clause.

Canelo finally found his sweet spot at super middle. Of course, it helps that guys like Callum Smith laid down for him.

How am I supposed to respect a bitch that asked a cruiserweight to drain himself down 20 pounds below the limit (with rehydration clauses) in order to fight for some bullshit, meaningless cruiserweight trinket?

I've never gotten an answer from you on that, and I don't expect one now.



Canelo has NEVER (except for his miscalculations against Floyd and Bivol) gone into a fight where the deck isn't stacked FIRMLY in his favor.

I can't wait till the redheaded bitch retires.

wasn't canelo ranked number one at jr middleweight & a unified champ when he fought floyd? what guys do you think were more deserving at jr middleweight than canelo at that time? it was also a very successful ppv, much better than floyd's previous ppv at jr middleweight, so the public seemed to be interested

so they didn't find a way to drain dmitry or come up with some other bullshit diva clauses? you almost did it

so guys like callum smith just laid down for canelo? why weren't they lying down for each other before canelo got there?

"How am I supposed to respect a bitch that asked a cruiserweight to drain himself down 20 pounds below the limit (with rehydration clauses) in order to fight for some bullshit, meaningless cruiserweight trinket?

I've never gotten an answer from you on that, and I don't expect one now"

i'm pretty sure i've answered this before but if i haven't i'll do it right here for you. i can't tell you how to respect someone, that is something that is subjective to each person but let's put a little context to what you're saying. firstly as i understand it, that was only a proposal not an actual contract or offer & we only have badou's word to go by. did badou counter with his own proposal or offer? secondly canelo started out as a jr welterweight, badou started as a light heavy. let's say badou weighed 200 for his fight prior to that proposal & we'll say canelo was 168 for convenience, that's roughly a 32 pound difference. so canelo was asking badou to drop twenty pounds & he would come up twelve pounds. again it was just a proposal, badou was not being forced into it & if we say it is all true then he was able to turn it down or counter. i don't know if there was a counter but we know badou turned down that proposal. i guess you have to ask yourself do you respect miguel cotto or manny pacquiao for requesting catchweights from guys who were well less than 32 pounds above them in their previous fights? miguel had a 153 catchweight for the antonio margarito rematch although he weighed 154 in his previous fight & there was a jr middleweight belt on the line, he also had a 157 catchweight for daniel geale who only weighed five pounds more than miguel in their previous fights & there was a middleweight belt on the line. we can do manny but i think you get my point. besides canelo v badou never happened, miguel & manny's catchweight fights did

you say never then list exceptions

i hope canelo gives us another top fight or two before he retires