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one. the rephrased question did not mention canelo at all. it was about if you thought it was reasonable for a fighter to dropped close to 20 pounds

two. i wasn't comparing other fighters to canelo, they were mentioned to show that dropping that amount of weight is something that has been done throughout the sports history

three. the rephrased question was about if you thought it was reasonable for a fighter to drop around 20 pounds, again nothing about canelo

you seem to think it's unreasonable & i think it's reasonable if the fighter thinks it's in their best interests. we can agree to disagree

when you mention fighters jumping over divisions i assume you're referring to canelo looking heavier than light heavy? remember canelo offered dmitry the same terms for the rematch & dmitry turned the fight down so canelo went looking elsewhere & ended up fulfilling a mandatory

there's several different discussions here, one about if it is reasonable for a fighter to drop around 20 pounds & another about if it's reasonable for a fighter who started at jr welter & is currently already in his fifth weight division to propose that a fighter who started at light heavy & held a 32 pound weight advantage from their previous fights to drop 20 pounds. you don't think either are reasonable, i think both are reasonable. we can agree to disagree

Your #1 and your #3 are exactly the same, word for word. Just thought I'd point that out.

Yeah. Bivol turned it down. He basically said "been there done that." "Now I want to kick your ass at 168." Canelo declined. Good on Bivol for not letting Canelo dictate the rules of the game. So the thorn remains in Canelo's side. Forever.

Beterbiev was at 175 also. Why didn't Canelo go after him? Easy. Canelo knew Artur would rip him a new one. So he went chasing unicorns at cruiserweight instead. (Note: Please don't get hung on my use of the word "unicorn." Just a figure of speech).

Apparently Ilunga wasn't available. So he made his shameful offer to Badou. Remember, he had gotten his ass kicked at 175 by Bivol. If he couldn't beat Bivol, and wasn't willing to try Beterbiev... why make an ass of yourself and try to drain a cruiserweight? Cause that's how Canelo operates.

I guess we can agree to disagree on a lot of things.
one & three aren't word for word & they're there to highlight that the rephrased question wasn't about canelo

what offer did dmitry's team send canelo for a fight at super middle again? only dmitry turned down an offer

artur was at light heavy. i'm not going to lie that's a tough fight. my question would be why would you want the smaller man canelo to fight artur before dmitry did? artur & dmitry have been champions at light heavy for how long now? i can't fault canelo for not fighting artur when many other champions in the same division haven't

ilunga was the original target but he had a mandatory to fulfill, so don king got that done quick smart, unfortunately canelo had moved on, he then came back to badou after his victory. what weight division is 180 in again? the cruiserweight limit also used to be 190 & the wbc was going to reduce it back down due to their bridgerweight division but they haven't enforced that up to this time