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    Default Re: Who’s had the vaccine ? Side effects ?

    i’m not trying to impress anyone by highlighting your logical fallacies. i’m highlighting the logical fallacies you are using

    larry used an ad hominem fallacy to focus on my maturity & skills to understand the fallacies i am using to avoid doing any rational thinking myself, instead of focusing on the topic of discussion, which is proving covid is real

    you are making a presumption about the statistics you provided as being known. did you complete them yourself, asking each person? or are you just repeating something you’ve seen & been told?

    an appeal to authority fallacy does not only refer to an influential figure, it also includes real and pertinent intellectual authorities. i asked you to provide the proof have gotten from these highly educated people in pertinent fields that you have verified so i can also verify that proves your claim. you have provided no proof that you yourself have verified & have tried to misrepresent what an appeal to authority fallacy is

    i said i won’t go as far as saying you’re using a red herring fallacy. there is no need for examples, just provide the proof that your belief is real

    you said you were feeling generous & i felt i had been generous in my response. but when i use the word it’s pretentious and grandiose, irrelevant & an attempt to sound patient

    pointing out your fallacies & faulty reason is not horse shit & is not the other way around. what fallacies have you pointed out from myself?

    there is no debate. you believe something is real & i am asking you to prove it

    you don’t have to prove anything to me but until you do you only hold a belief

    “Do you know where you were born? How? Where is the proof of that? Do you know who your parents are? How? Where is your proof of that? Whatever you learned in science, math, and the other subject matter you must have taken in school... did you personally perform experiments to verify each and every one?”

    these are all red herrings & strawman arguments. our topic of discussion is that you believe covid is real & I am asking you to prove it

    labelling me a conspiracy theorist is not how one conducts an honest discussion, it’s a psychological tactic. you haven’t provided any proof that you have personally verified for me to dismiss. i am not asking for what much more educated people than yourself accept, i am asking you to provide the proof that you have verified yourself from these people that i can also verify that proves your claim is real. it seems you are the one just accepting what you’ve been told instead of verifying it, because it’s easy, it seems you’re not thinking for yourself & have instead been told what to think, that’s a lazy & noncommittal way to live, instead of verifying your beliefs to be true. i just don’t fall for that bullshit
    It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.

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    Default Re: Who’s had the vaccine ? Side effects ?

    I believe COVID exists. I believe it is a virus. I believe there is more than sufficient evidence, on a global basis, to verify my beliefs. I became ill with the same symptoms as those described by what I consider to be qualified authorities on the subject.

    You believe COVID does not exist. You believe it is a hoax being perpetuated by the world's population for whatever reason. You do not accept the data presented by any authorities on the matter.

    I will never be able to convince you (nor do I want to) of my way of thinking. I owe you nothing in terms of proof, evidence, or whatever else you'd like to call it.

    You will never be able to convince me (nor do probably want to) of your way of thinking. You owe me nothing in terms of proof, evidence, or whatever else you'd like to call it.

    As such, further discussions of this matter are frankly, pointless.

    Have a nice day.

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    Default Re: Who’s had the vaccine ? Side effects ?

    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    I believe COVID exists. I believe it is a virus. I believe there is more than sufficient evidence, on a global basis, to verify my beliefs. I became ill with the same symptoms as those described by what I consider to be qualified authorities on the subject.

    You believe COVID does not exist. You believe it is a hoax being perpetuated by the world's population for whatever reason. You do not accept the data presented by any authorities on the matter.

    I will never be able to convince you (nor do I want to) of my way of thinking. I owe you nothing in terms of proof, evidence, or whatever else you'd like to call it.

    You will never be able to convince me (nor do probably want to) of your way of thinking. You owe me nothing in terms of proof, evidence, or whatever else you'd like to call it.

    As such, further discussions of this matter are frankly, pointless.

    Have a nice day.
    i’m not asking you what you believe. i’m asking you to prove what you believe is real as you've claimed. it seems you are admitting here that you only hold a belief & are unable to prove that your belief was the cause of your illness & that’s fine, you are free to believe what you want

    i don’t hold a belief. i am asking for proof that your belief is real. data is not proof that your belief is real

    i am not asking you to convince me, i am asking for proof that your belief is real. you don’t owe me anything unless you keep claiming your belief is real. then the burden of proof is yours to prove true

    i am not trying to convince you of anything. i am asking you to prove your belief is real as you claimed

    the discussion has always been pointless. if someone makes a claim that something is real, they can either prove it or they can’t

    you have a nice day too
    It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TIC View Post
    i’m not trying to impress anyone by highlighting your logical fallacies. i’m highlighting the logical fallacies you are using

    larry used an ad hominem fallacy to focus on my maturity & skills to understand the fallacies i am using to avoid doing any rational thinking myself, instead of focusing on the topic of discussion, which is proving covid is real

    you are making a presumption about the statistics you provided as being known. did you complete them yourself, asking each person? or are you just repeating something you’ve seen & been told?

    an appeal to authority fallacy does not only refer to an influential figure, it also includes real and pertinent intellectual authorities. i asked you to provide the proof have gotten from these highly educated people in pertinent fields that you have verified so i can also verify that proves your claim. you have provided no proof that you yourself have verified & have tried to misrepresent what an appeal to authority fallacy is

    i said i won’t go as far as saying you’re using a red herring fallacy. there is no need for examples, just provide the proof that your belief is real

    you said you were feeling generous & i felt i had been generous in my response. but when i use the word it’s pretentious and grandiose, irrelevant & an attempt to sound patient

    pointing out your fallacies & faulty reason is not horse shit & is not the other way around. what fallacies have you pointed out from myself?

    there is no debate. you believe something is real & i am asking you to prove it

    you don’t have to prove anything to me but until you do you only hold a belief

    “Do you know where you were born? How? Where is the proof of that? Do you know who your parents are? How? Where is your proof of that? Whatever you learned in science, math, and the other subject matter you must have taken in school... did you personally perform experiments to verify each and every one?”

    these are all red herrings & strawman arguments. our topic of discussion is that you believe covid is real & I am asking you to prove it

    labelling me a conspiracy theorist is not how one conducts an honest discussion, it’s a psychological tactic. you haven’t provided any proof that you have personally verified for me to dismiss. i am not asking for what much more educated people than yourself accept, i am asking you to provide the proof that you have verified yourself from these people that i can also verify that proves your claim is real. it seems you are the one just accepting what you’ve been told instead of verifying it, because it’s easy, it seems you’re not thinking for yourself & have instead been told what to think, that’s a lazy & noncommittal way to live, instead of verifying your beliefs to be true. i just don’t fall for that bullshit
    Totally agree, def a shitload of ad hominems, red herrings, straw man, logical fallacies, appeals to "authority" (those are perhaps more off the charts than any of them LMFAO) and syllogistically unsound conclusions

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    Default Re: Who’s had the vaccine ? Side effects ?

    Notice how no one really pays attention to you.

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    Default Re: Who’s had the vaccine ? Side effects ?

    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Notice how no one really pays attention to you.
    why would someone pay attention to me when the discussion is on proving a belief to be real. focusing on me would be an ad hominem fallacy, instead of focusing on the topic of proving a belief is real
    It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.

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    Default Re: Who’s had the vaccine ? Side effects ?

    Quote Originally Posted by TIC View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Notice how no one really pays attention to you.
    why would someone pay attention to me when the discussion is on proving a belief to be real. focusing on me would be an ad hominem fallacy, instead of focusing on the topic of proving a belief is real

    I was actually talking to NoSavingByTheBell..... but now that you mention it...... feel free to partake of the observation as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TIC View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Notice how no one really pays attention to you.
    why would someone pay attention to me when the discussion is on proving a belief to be real. focusing on me would be an ad hominem fallacy, instead of focusing on the topic of proving a belief is real

    I was actually talking to NoSavingByTheBell..... but now that you mention it...... feel free to partake of the observation as well.
    nevertheless the statement remains true, why would someone pay attention to a person when the discussion is on proving a belief to be real. focusing on a person would be an ad hominem fallacy, instead of focusing on the topic of proving a belief is real
    It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.

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    Default Re: Who’s had the vaccine ? Side effects ?

    Yep, agree, they are typical ad hominems, appeals to authority, etc., right on cue. Syllogistically unsound as ever.

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