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    Default Re: IOC embroiled in gender controversy regarding women's boxing

    She's a she. I don't think there's dispute on that for anyone who took the time and honestly dropped their agendas. But some agendas die hard and to them no differentiation between this case...and trans on whole...need be made. The conflation and inference achieve the goal. The concern is and should be about perceived unfair advantages in sport. Simple as. And this is an entirely new can of worms. The way this absolutely exploded in under 24 hours initially was insane and instantly politicized. I had friends who couldn't tell you the difference between a golf ball and a ping pong ball suddenly become sports experts as quickly as the back to back to back clickbait articles on the mater flooded social media and continue to do so.

    Truth be told... this initial outrage and pitchfork grasping has been cooking ever since that initial opening ceremony. That too was instant, and trans became a talking point before the first medal was even awarded. Yes, the IBA is at the root and they dropped a grenade into the outcry and here we are. Do yourself a favor and delve into the organization. Quite the contradictory horseshit interview with the BBC today. And in case anyone is wondering they are currently set to appeal a courts April decision upholding the IOCs barring them. This is so much deeper. Boxing, character assassination, deception and politics...shocked I tell ya. What has managed to happen and seems to be the only certain fact in this CF is that not one, not two but multiple athletes, winners and losers, their lives and reputations have been absolutely torn to shreds and run thru the mud in the court of public opinion and keyboard warriors. Based on a man named Kremlev who today now indicates the two women in question were DQ'd (only after they won) for testosterone levels in tests. Or was it "inconclusive tests". They can't seem to decide. But they have achieved the effect they want. Fair to say that if testosterone levels were measured and made public for participation in female sports, many men would be flat embarrassed and shocked. So, do men with lower testosterone levels in sport now suffer an unfair disadvantage and risk of injury? Can of worms.
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    Default Re: IOC embroiled in gender controversy regarding women's boxing

    All I know is the IOC have their hands full come LA2028. The unfair trashing of the Algerian woman notwithstanding, the issue of trans in women's sports isn't going away any time soon. Just like it has created controversy way before the Paris Olympics even began. I mentioned Lia Thomas... and there are sure to be more cases like that. Trans swimmers, sprinters, etc... not to mention the contact sports. While it's wrong to deny anyone their right to compete, it's just as wrong to place them in a category where they don't belong. Some women may suffer from excess bravado, like Claressa Shields, who supposedly has called out men boxers. But that is honestly beside the point. The point is that the separation of men and women in sports is there for a reason. In swimming and running all that is at stake are places on the podium, which itself is bad enough. But when you involve contact sports, like boxing, you've got a whole different ballgame.

    I've always consistently mentioned women's sports and elementary education as my biggest beefs with the strong push for trans rights. So at least mentally, "I told you so" thoughts very much cross my mind. This is a mess of our own making. Part of society wants to bend over backwards so desperately, maybe to give off that openness vibe... that common sense has been thrown right out the window.

    Yeah, it's too bad that Imane Khelif and Lin Yu-ting have been abused on social media through no fault of their own. But the bigger picture here is that the rule-making organizations in sports are fukking this up so bad, there are going to be wide-ranging and long-lasting repercussions.

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